‘Dark Knight Rises’ Spoilers: David S. Goyer Talks Movie Ending

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THIS IS THE PLACE TO DISCUSS ‘DARK KNIGHT RISES’ SPOILERS

[We originally published this in May 2012 but have re-published it as a place for fans to discuss spoilers freely after having seen the film. Be sure to also read our Dark Knight Rises Review.]

Considering how seriously director Christopher Nolan has taken these films, many fans have pondered whether or not Batman will (gulp) bite the bullet in the closing moments of The Dark Knight Rises. On the topic of endings, Batman trilogy writer David S. Goyer recently talked about the final scene of TDKR and the profound emotional effect it had on him.

POTENTIAL SPOILERS AHEAD!!

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Courtesy of Empire Magazine:

“The final scene of ‘The Dark Knight Rises’ is exactly [the] scene we talked about [when Christopher Nolan and I started the trilogy with 'Batman Begins']. It remained completely unchanged. We both knew in our hearts that we were onto something special. I have to tell you, having finally seen everything strung together a little while ago and seeing that scene, I got a complete lump in my throat.”

Now, you might assume Goyer got a lump in his throat because he was witnessing his nearly decade-long dream realized (or something similarly sentimental).

However, Empire pressed the issue further and got a different response. After they inferred that Nolan was committing “commercial sacrilege,” Goyer said:

“Yup! That’s why it’s ****ing exciting!”

So what could this possibly mean, Screen Ranters? Is there something tragic about the ending of The Dark Knight Rises that might lead to lumps being formed in throats? To commercial sacrilege being performed? Will Batman – as fans have hypothesized all throughout the Internet – be kicking the bucket by way of Bane’s steroid-fueled fist?

Frankly, there are plenty of other possible scenarios for what David Goyer is hinting at. Perhaps Batman is just hanging up his cowl, and the poignancy of that moment alone was enough to put a lump in Goyer’s throat. Or perhaps another character dies – Alfred, Lucius, or Gordon. Heck, every time I see Michael Caine die in a movie (Children of Men, for example) my throat becomes practically ridden with lumps.

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And if Batman were truly to die in Nolan’s final Batman film, would David Goyer dare broach the subject in an interview? Would someone so close to the project – one of the creative minds behind the various screenplays – discuss the key piece of this seven-year-old puzzle? Possibly the most important scene? Before it can be experienced by audiences firsthand?

Maybe. Hopefully not, though. If Batman/Bruce Wayne’s death is indeed in the cards for The Dark Knight Rises, one would hope that Goyer would have the willpower to keep mum until the film opens.

For an in-depth discussion of the film by the Screen Rant team check out our Dark Knight Rises episode of the SR Underground podcast.

The Dark Knight Rises hits theaters July 20th, 2012.

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Source: Empire Magazine [via Comic Book Movie]

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  2. Anyone think he might have disclosed his plan to Catwoman in the “Clean Slate” drive he gave her when he returned to the city? A “clean slate” was a recurring trend throughout the movie, something that neither Wayne, nor Kyle, actually existed, in whatever form. However, at the end, they both found one together. That is what Alfred witnesses at the cafe.

    As far as the bomb, the Bat, the autopilot and the Batsignal, it seems pretty clear to me that this is not an open-ended movie. Nolan leads the viewer, Wayne’s closest colleagues and all of Gotham to believe that Batman has indeed died (although Luscious and Alfred find out he’s alive), which gets him the recognition and respect he deserves, but also allows him to finally leave Gotham and start a new life for himself.

    The End.

    • well said

    • What you said makes a lot of sense. When I first saw the movie I didn’t understand it (I thought Bruce Wayne actually did die). My stepdad told me that he fixed the autopilot in the Batmobile but didn’t tell anyone about it, and it made everything a lot clearer. I like your explanation of this, though.

  3. I dont think Batman dies. I think he bailed out when he was flying the jet so low with the bomb. otherwise i agree with this version — a perfect piece which treats each unanswered question one by one. http://www.howzzit.com/2012/07/27/the-many-mysteries-of-the-dark-knight-rises/

    • Dear Guest,

      If you saw the movie, you’d know that he’s alive.

      • very well said

  4. weakest part of the movie in my opinion is all the people complaining about how it was and how they would do it better. honestly Christopher Nolan did an amazing job with this series and picked the perfect cast. if you dont like it then make your own and see whose is better

    • *about how ‘bad’ it was*
      my bad

    • if you dont like it then make your own and see whose is better

      Why do people always say stuff like this? This is a site devoted to talking about television and movies; so, IMHO, statements like this goes against the very nature of this site.

      • Can’t fault that logic (or forget the unforgettable!) Mr. Kahless.

  5. If an atomic bomb explode in mid-air, you can survive if you are underneath it.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUhgYqKdWI0

    Bruce/Batman survived the blast (just like how Sherlock Holmes survived the fall)… Every scene leading towards the end credits were indicative that he survived ( Bat signal fixed, Robin’s package (like he had time to prepare that after climbing out from well while Gotham is under a time bomb), autopilot, …). Selina Kyle was in a hurry as well while Batman was about to fly off with the bomb. I don’t think she was trying to get her ass out of Gotham on the Batcycle. She changed her hedonistic heart and risked her life thus far… In short, Batman had a partner that could have had a hand in his escape.

    This is unlikely the case..but Bruce did get a bionic leg braces that could help him paddle his way to shore .. :)

  6. So, obviously the Joker was not referenced in the film out of respect for Heath. Now, this may be looked at as over-analysis, but please consider.

    Matthew Modine played a somewhat significant role in the film, though he was inevitably killed in the final act. Modine also appeared in Kubrick’s Full Metal Jacket in 1987. What was his name in that movie?

    “Joker.”

  7. I just saw the DK Rises again last night and I KNOW that I am right about this…just follow me: Everyone here knows the score to the trilogy, awesome music, no mistaking, right? The same music throughout the three films. Great job by Hans Zimmer (as usual). Just as Batman flys the Bat over the bridge about to go out to sea with the nuke, the music changes. It’s a score that was never in any of the three films up to that point. Why change the music all of a sudden? And then it struck me like lightning…it was the same music that is put over the Man of Steel trailer!!! Which by the way, is also scored by Hans Zimmer! Superman saves Batman. No doubt. Watch….AND LISTEN to it again. That music is not heard anywhere else in the trilogy.

    • PLEASE, tell me you’re joking.

    • Thanks. I haven’t laughed like that in a long time.

    • Sorry, but no. It wasn’t the same music. The reason it hasn’t been heard before was because Zimmer wanted a song to convey that Batman had “died”. Playing the heoric theme as he gets blown up would not fit in the slightest.

    • -_- …………………..wow

  8. I just saw the DK Rises again last night and I KNOW that I am right
    about this…just follow me: Everyone here knows the score to the
    trilogy, awesome music, no mistaking, right? The same music throughout
    the three films. Great job by Hans Zimmer (as usual). Just as Batman
    flys the Bat over the bridge about to go out to sea with the nuke, the
    music changes. It’s a score that was never in any of the three films up
    to that point. Why change the music all of a sudden? And then it
    struck me like lightning…it was the same music that is put over the Man
    of Steel trailer!!! Which by the way, is also scored by Hans Zimmer!
    Superman saves Batman. No doubt. Watch….AND LISTEN to it again. That
    music is not heard anywhere else in the trilogy.

    • The music that is played at the last moments in the BAT is also played when Bruce’s parents are killed…So this music has been played before. Although your theory would have been awesome, this makes it obvious that is invalid…

  9. The music from “Man of Steel” is from the Fellowship of the Ring when Gandalf falls into the pit. It is not the same as the music in the Bat scene.

  10. The Superman theory is a good one, probably wrong, but has some logic!

    Thanks for thinking outside the box Brunt!

  11. The Superman theory is a good one, probably wrong, but has some logic! Thanks for thinking outside the box Brunt!

  12. I don’t know if this has been answered already but why does Talia try to chase down the bomb in the truck at the end of the film? Her dying speech makes it clear that she didn’t consider the use of the Bat to airlift the bomb. She had expected, and was therefore not especially concerned when the remote didn’t work. As far as she was concerned the bomb was impossible to disarm and therefore perfectly safe.
    Basically was it all just an excuse to have a car chase, dog fight finale?

    • Batman had already figured out how to negate the trigger, so she worried that he or someone else might have figured out a way to stop the explosion altogether. She decided to accompany the bomb, so as to insure that no one else could interfere with the plan…a logical (if suicidal) strategy. Dying was not a concern, as she showed by her nonchalance when the truck carrying the bomb was stopped and she was fatally injured.

      • Interesting but surely in her death throes she would then be worried that Batman Inc would be now free to start whatever interference she was worried about. I know the clock was getting low but if she was worried about them disabling it using something that didn’t involve Fox’s, now flooded machine, 10 minutes ago then she should still be worried about it as she died.

        • She got to the device BEFORE the flooding of the reactor chamber. She wanted to keep it away from the chamber until that option was no longer viable…she chose to do so personally. By the time she was breathing her last, she was sure that the flooding had occurred, because she knew Fox would have had to reactivate the reactor to prepare it for the return of the core. Until he did so, she could not be certain that her tampering with the emergency flood system would be enough. With so little time remaining, she was certain that he had…and that it had.

          She, thus, felt confident that Batman and his allies would have no way to stop the massive explosion within the city limits, not counting on the Bat’s ability to carry the bomb aloft, at high speed, out of the urban environs.

          • True things all. I really do appreciate you engaging with this without all the usual flame war stuff that can break out.
            So, if Talia had said nothing about the hub being flooded or had rigged it to flood when the bomb was put back rather than when Lucius turned it on then her plan would have worked out a lot better. Batman, Jim and Selena grab the truck, haul it over to Wayne Tower, stick it in, high fives all round then they’re all half drowned and the bomb blows up. Underground detonation mitigates the damage slightly but still significant. Bloody hindsight eh.

  13. So apparently a nuclear weapon doesn’t give off fatal levels of radiation after detonating. Cool. :|

    • If Batman/ Bruce Wayne was able to get the bomb 6+ miles away from the city, jet stream winds would carry any radiation/ nuclear fallout into the ocean, not back toward land. Most of the deadly radiation would dissipate before reaching any major land formations.

  14. Well I just returned from seeing TDKR (yes, finally…..I don’t like crowds :P ) and thought it was very good but not the masterpiece some have claimed it to be. I did like it better than TDK however.

    I also disliked Hathaway as “Catwoman” and thought her portrayal was one of the weaker elements of the movie. She barely qualified for the iconic role and had little to nothing of her comic book counterpart’s personality or look.

    I was torn about Bane and Talia’s origins…..I liked the surprise reveal but at the same time hated that they were so different from the originals.

    And while I could pick apart many things, the one thing that bothered me most was Batman’s unwillingness to kill Bane (and how difficult his mask was to damage but also how easy it was to repair) not to mention how easily Bane hurt Batman with his armored suit on that should have stopped most of those blows to the chest.

    All Batman would have had to do was get behind Bane and then rip that mask off his face but instead he chooses to just hit it repeatedly? Silly. And with those sharp pointy forearm barbs, he could have just raked them across Banes jugular.

    • Bane was always stronger than Batman in the comics. He was created as both a physical and mental challenge for Batman. In Batman: Knightfall, Bane BREAKS Batman’s back. Nolan and Goyer pulled story elements and imagery from that series and a couple others for TDKR.

      Bane’s ability to easily take out Batman was due to an 8-year lapse in Bruce’s conditioning and training. Even with the suit, Bane was trained by The League of Shadows. In Batman Begins, Ra’s Al Ghul was able to take Batman one-on-one in the suit.

      As far as killing Bane goes, yes, the razors on the gauntlets could have done the job. But that is Batman’s one defining rule. He won’t ever kill. If you remember from TDK, Joker says: “You’re going to have to break your one rule.” He WANTS Batman to do it because he’s pushed him to the mental breaking point, and being killed by Batman means The Joker gets the last laugh. Bane is a brilliant tactician and pushes Batman to the physical breaking point. He knows Batman won’t kill him and uses this as both a physical and mental edge.

      Bane is also unafraid to die, which pushes him further physically. Bruce is told this by the other guys stuck in the prison. He has a mental block due to his fear, and his denial prevents him from moving past it. In the end, he overcomes this and is able to wail on Bane. Until that point, however, Bane is simply stronger, mentally and physically, which is another reason he is able to land those blows on Batman.

      I dunno why they didn’t have Batman just rip his mask off, though. Guess the fight wouldn’t have been as epic. I would hope you at least enjoyed this incarnation of Bane VS sissy Bane from Batman & Robin. Lol.

      • They told him That if he didin’t fear death he wouldn’t be able to get out of the prison.
        The prisoner said that the soul will not work so hard if he didin’t fear death so batman began to fear death.

  15. So I saw finally saw the film on Friday and I loved it. Its a different kind of love from The Dark Knight which its own different love for Batman Begins. each film is different from the other that I cannot properly rank them until I see The Dark Knight Rises again.
    Yes while I say the film is not a masterpiece I did find myself moved and inspired by the end. I did feel clear and present danger throughout the film and the sheer scale of set pieces and visuals is just incredible.

    I believe another rewrite would defintely have perfected the film. elements could have been introduced earlier and some tweaking of characters and events would have really gone a lot way to provide focus and emphasis and plot and set up.

    I enjoyed that the film made call backs to both previous films but I feel it was leaning more to Batman Begins then breaking even. This strecthed out to include the plot: League of Shadows, destroy Gotham, Wayne Enterprises machines used as weapons, etc. Even themes were called back. Which I found funny because most of the Joker’s omens were being orchestrated by Bane. “In their last moments people show you who they really are….when the chips are down these ‘civilised’ people will eat other. Their morality, their code, is a big joke”.

    I felt Bane was an excellent villian choice and much potential but I was worried he would turn into a gimmick. fortunately I was pleased with what I saw and felt and I thought Tom Hardy was excellent in the role even with the limitation. While Bane was presented both as smart and brutal fighter with glimpse of him being perhaps cultured and such (what I lovely voice), I felt Bane should have been explored much greater. I wanted to hear more of his philosophy.

    I felt the events of the Dark Knight should have been tied in as sort of the psuedo lead in to Knightfall. In a way it was, with Bruce/Batman mentally and physically in pain at the beginning but without greater references to the events of the Dark Knight (harvey’s betrayal, Batman creating men like the Joker). If Bane had a connection to the Joker (nothing to specific to be said in the film) he would have known about Harvey Earlier and could have brought in that element earlier. The tunnels and bridges constructed with explosive concrete could have been there since the Dark Knight as the Joker did say he had a surpise for those who atttempted to escape using those routes. It would have been a greater callback and make the elements of both films much more relevant.

    Bane will be cultured intelligent in a number of area and a powerful combatant, and have a philosophy that mixed Ra’s and Joker. It was there in film but could have been presented more profound in execution. There should have been more scene with Bane and Batman.

    Similarly, its like Batman role. He goes from an idealistic hero who is ready to inspire Gotham as whole. Puts his faith in Harvey Dent as the Hero with a Face/White Knight even after his fall using him as a martyr for hope. Batman was against vigilante using guns and such, (and originally only wanted to be Batman as much as it was needed) and was horried to the fact that he changed the world forever creating villian like Joker. In this Batman was seen hanging up his cape because he was not needed and because of what happen to Rachel feeling guilt over her death(not being able to save her and causing mayhem by inspiring Joker) but he could have been showed lamenting Dent, the lie, still trying to be Batman all these years in the shadows in a greater degree. Batman does see the need for masked men to go above the law (Gordon and Blake arcs demonstrate this) but we could have seen his thinking process throughtout the film- going from I will be Batman as long as the city needs me, the city doesn’t need a masked vigilante, to there would always be times when Gotham needs Batman. Again it was there but more emphasis would elevate the film much more.

    There is more to be made and in the end these are nitpicks as I do love the film. But I do agree something felt off and I think a rewrite in which more emphasis in the character journey (not neccesarily through dialogue) would have made it much clearer. It was all there in the film but execution was key that made this film stop short of a masterpiece which could have easily happened with another rewrite that would not have compromised the spectacle and scale of the film. Which is why I give the film a 4.5 out of 5.

  16. While I was collecting comic books in college, DC and Marvel killed off Batman, Superman, and Spiderman. Even though my friend insisted they were permanently gone, I told him a few things: (1) if they killed them off permanently, when will they be filing for unemployment? and (2) nothing stays dead in comic books, for its all base upon science-fiction.

    After seeing the “Dark Knight Rises”, I translated the end as restoring the legend. In order for Batman to freely operate under the cloak of darkness, the vigilantly had to become a myth. Bruce Wayne pulled Batman out of the light, and brought him back into the darkness. Gorden rubbing his hand across the symbol, smiling, and looking up was an acknowledgement of what they had accomplished. Gorden can now deny the existence of Batman, and he can use his help without creating a conflict of interest.

    • I also got the feeling the Batman will always be around when needed and he will have partners to fill his place. He now has become a legend: incorruptible and everlasting

  17. IMO, the movie is missing 40 minutes of Bane transforming into the hero of gotham. He would be Che, and Talia (Revealed the moment the bomb is made) I s Fidel.

    I would have that Scene with the boy and the apple just after the explosion
    of the foodball stadium. only Bane saves the boy and the apple. A simple conversation causes bane to tern from Heal to Face. He starts making the city clean itself up. No violence. He kills the murderous, the rapest, the Greedy. And he works to clean up the slums. He hides all this do gooder crap
    around the concept its all to work their hope. Only talias not buying. Completely vilify the Her. Make her Break one of those mask tubes or something and spout her venomous words at him. YOu can still have every shot in the ending, and we might start to question if batmans return is
    a good thing. Talia knows hes comming back. Thats her master plan. But bane starts to believe that Batman can protect this new Gotham.

    If you see the comics, Bane does turn good guy in the end and stops the
    distribution of Venom in gotham and various other places before joining the league.

    Here at the end when he was going kill batman he instead tells him to save
    his city, Bane then leads his men out.

    Batman ending the same only one more ending.

    Bane goes to Syria to aid the freedom fighters there.

    • PS Never write any comments in a dark room when drunk

      • Is that why what you’ve just said is one of the most ridiculous things I’ve ever read?

        • Whoa. . . whoa, whoa. I think Crage’s described storyline is the first (and only) description of things that could have been improved that would have made the movie something I would be interested in watching a second time.

          • Thats how i felt about it. Bane had so much more to give same as talia. Oh well. Still think bane should have been savior, considering he saved talia, which would explain why he would do anything for her but cant kill all those people. I like my movoe version better ha ha.

  18. Just had to mention it somewhere…

    Anyone think that Bane sounds like Deckard Cain from the Diablo game series.

    Stay a while and listen. :)

  19. Just seen the DK Rises, wanted to make sure I got my moneys worth and watched it with a small crowd. IMAX is the only way to watch a top movie like this, I could also imagene if Heath (Joker) was still alive he could have played a role too. In my opinion, if future movies likely involving Robin are successful we may see Batman again; however, in a life and death situation only towards the end of a trilogy if it makes $$$ like the current trilogy.

  20. I think at some point, the viewer needs to suspend his/her disbelief about certain aspects of the ending. We see Bruce and Selina at the cafe, Alfred sees them. Obviously for that to have happened, Bruce must have jumped out at the last second, and escaped. It is later found out that Fox finds out that he had patched the auto pilot. THAT is the general explanation. But there are obviously others that will question finer points such as, with five seconds left, how could he have escaped the blast radius, or was it just the way Nolan shot it, and Batman was out long before. OR was Alfred just imagining Bruce and Selina, because at one point Alfred stated: “And when I’d seen you in that cafe, I would know that you have made it” Keywords being “made it.” Bruce said that he hadn’t given Gotham “Everything” at one point in the movie. But who knows, because why would Selina be sitting at a cafe in florence, all by herself.

  21. I think a movie with Joseph Gordon Levitt as Nightwing would be awesome.

  22. As I see Blake name has been changed Robin? huh first spoil for next movie maybe? Bruce is dead oh no hes alive but everyone thinks hes dead another spoil maybe? robin found bat cave and batman told him before he has to wear a mask i think that when blake visited bruce that very moment alfred started the work on robins gear, the autopilot ready and fixed we saw the bomb marking 5 seconds but what if the Bat was in autopilot at that moment if not i think batman could escape and then we have the signal all fixed that’s lead to a batman and robin movie and of course with man of steel heading the way why not in some years the JUSTICE LEAGUE that’s the point im sure that the league is going to be a reality and why the story that’s this is the end easy to keep us in the anxious wait and make a hit in the tickets when Batman and Robin gets out and so heard that Johnny Deep is getting to talk and make deals to bring to life the Riddle so lets see after man of steel will bring some answers in the after credit short scene that’s for sure

  23. This was a great movie, but NOT ENOUGH BANE!
    His backstory (largely cut) would have been brilliant to see, hope they release deleted scenes…
    He was the best villain I’ve seen in a long time, and they barely touched on who he was and how he became Bane.
    Nightwing/Robin film?
    Could be interesting, but I’d love Bane to be in it (pretending he didn’t die).
    His death was ridiculously underwhelming too, I couldn’t figure out if he HAD died, but I guess so, as this is the last film and he wasn’t being menacing right before the credits rolled…
    Anyway, I think basically I’m fangirling Bane.
    He was epic and the mask for pain relief was interesting (better than the original Bane’s thing, where he was hooked on “Venom”), and a real sympathy thing…
    I found myself rooting for Bane on this one.
    Good film, the ending was horribly sentimental but that’s necessary in wrapping up a franchise like this IMHO.
    I really, really liked Bane, in case I didn’t get that point across.
    Tom Hardy stole the show on this one.

  24. Christopher Nolan clearly wanted to give the people what they want…but also he didnt want to ruin his masterpiece…with all the talk about “wearing masks to protect the people you care about”, i d say batman fixed the autopilot just to make Lucius feel like it wasn’t his fault Bruce Wayne died, he wanted to point out that he had the option to survive, but as mentioned earlier in the movie, he “welcomes” death, he CHOSE to die for the people of Gotham, there was “nothing left for him”, he died just like Harry Potter should have, he HAD to die so he could live forever, batman was a symbol, batman could be anyone…
    Now, in the dark knight, Alfred himself (i think) said, i quote, “sometimes the truth isn’t good enough, sometimes people deserve their faith to be rewarded”, clearly he was talking about what he would see in the cafe at Italy, he wanted redemption, he wanted to feel like he wasn’t “guilty” for the death of Bruce, as he pointed out at the tombstone of Thomas Wayne…but if you were one of the people that wanted to be spooned a blockbuster, that only care about happy endings, you can be like, when did Bruce get the time to prepare the instructions for Blake, and then go like, who fixed the signal, and possibly go like, why wouldn’t he activate the autopilot and just live, i mean afterall he IS fu.cking batman……well, that s exactly my point, he IS fu.cking batman…Nolan wouldn’t ruin his 7 year old masterpiece with a stupid happy ending, he just wants the people who want a happy ending to get one, it IS a blockbuster afterall and it’s all for the money. Peace out \/

  25. Christopher Nolan clearly wanted to give the people what they want…but also he didn’t want to ruin his masterpiece…with all the talk about “wearing masks to protect the people you care about”, i d say batman fixed the autopilot just to make Lucius feel like it wasn’t his fault Bruce Wayne died, he wanted to point out that he had the option to survive, but as mentioned earlier in the movie, he “welcomes” death, he CHOSE to die for the people of Gotham, there was “nothing left for him”, he died just like Harry Potter should have, he HAD to die so he could live forever, batman was a symbol, batman could be anyone…
    Now, in the dark knight, Alfred himself (i think) said, i quote, “sometimes the truth isn’t good enough, sometimes people deserve their faith to be rewarded”, clearly he was talking about what he would see in the cafe at Italy, he wanted redemption, he wanted to feel like he wasn’t “guilty” for the death of Bruce, as he pointed out at the tombstone of Thomas Wayne…but if you were one of the people that wanted to be spooned a blockbuster, that only care about happy endings, you can be like, when did Bruce get the time to prepare the instructions for Blake, and then go like, who fixed the signal, and possibly go like, why wouldn’t he activate the autopilot and just live, i mean afterall he IS fu.cking batman……well, that s exactly my point, he IS fu.cking batman…Nolan wouldn’t ruin his 7 year old masterpiece with a stupid happy ending, he just wants the people who want a happy ending to get one, it IS a blockbuster afterall and it’s all for the money. Peace out /

  26. You know what, Batman actually did make it alive. He must have jumped into a refrigerator.(sarcasm)

    Actually, batman did die at the end. (truth)

  27. will I think christian bale as batman didn’t die,he was escaped in right time before expolited. so in the next sequel batman and robin will rise up together and might their enemy is thalia al ghul as poison ivy would be together with Mr. freeze or riddler,I believe it cause alfred told bruce wayne as fast story might has explained before Bruce and Alfred debate Batman’s future in tense, tender exchanges and alfred leave bruce wayne. alfred said “I see you “Mr. bruce wayne” sitting front of me in italy”

  28. Is it just me or does the bar in dark knight rises kinda remind you of the bat mobile in batman beyond and Gordon levett can pull off a batman beyond but surely my dream of having a batman beyond movie is far from reality

  29. Is it just me or does the bar in dark knight rises kinda remind you of the bat mobile in batman beyond and Gordon-Levitt can pull off a batman beyond but surely my dream of having a batman beyond movie is far from reality

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