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Aaron says:

I actually just saw the movie, so I’m not as effected by this as others might be, but more than certainly this looks like an intentional way to make even more money with the “Special-Special” edition. I’ve got the DVD version, so I guess when I upgrade to Blu-Ray someday, I’ll be getting that “Special Special Edition”.

I remember reading somewhere that the reason that there were no cut scenes was the fact that the film was scrupulously vetted in pre-production, almost to the same extent that animated films usually are, so that by the time the film got to editing there was precious little to do. They only shot what was absolutely necessary to move the story forward. In other words, they cut the fat before filming. Nolan has said, as I recall that everything is already on screen. Given the length of the film, I’m inclined to believe him.

I agree with most of the other points. There extras here are remarkably small and insignificant compared to what should have been on such a highly anticipated release.

790 says:

WB better not ask for a bailout !!!

8-)

greenknight333 says:

Hey 790..it’s only our money that’s saving these “Corporations” Scary when you think about it but if this bailout scenario was viable a year ago we might still have a New Line Cinema..just goes to show how worthless money..i.e greenback actually is if they need 700 billion and just make it…Gold is the way to go…By-the-way..is all the gold still in Fort Knox or was it pilfered by the NWO ;)

790 says:

Lol Greenknight, New Line was absorbed by another studio, those folks are fine,,,

I agree with your assesment on the economy…

Gold is the way to go however the gov can always confiscate it,,,

Last I heard most of the gold in America is located in California,,, :-)

greenknight333 says:

Wasn’t New Line a subsidiary of Warner Bros..Guess they had no choice there..

Geez I’d better hide the wife’s then ;)

790 says:

Lastly Greenknight333,,,

One thing everyone needs to consider is how the media is influencing these bailouts…
They say that the car companies will fall if they don’t get a bailout. That’s bs,,, they will file chapter 11,and get protection under bankruptcy laws. They will NOT crumble to the ground… Sure some ppl will be laid off but that’s inevitable ,,,

Same with the banks,,, that’s a huge payback for starting all this in the first place.
(Its crazy but take a close look at what’s really going on)
this is all being orchestrated.

The powers behind the media news and print media are manipulating what we think,,,

Sounds crazy huh??

Ok conspiracy rant over,,,, go obama.

greenknight333 says:

Nothing in this day and age is crazy 790.. JUst look at the last 8 years…they all got richer, we bail them out and they still get richer..It’s win win for those &*&&**&&^&*^#$^# !!!

greenknight333 says:

Vic you are not a subsidiary of FOX or Viacom or some other Corp are you? ;)

greenknight333 says:

I will not buy anything BluRay until they stop making the DVD format..I bought my DVD collection to replace my video collection so I am not starting all over again…They probably will just come up with another format in 5-10 years anyway

790 says:

Yeah I totally agree GreenKnight333, I’ve invested too much into my dvd collection to phase them out to BluRay.

Besides dvds last forever and that’s a big advantage over VHS and even downloaded content. Eventually computers fail, files are lost , dvds are our generations record albums…
Sure if I was uber rich I’d prob be buying Bluray but I’m not, so its Dvds for me !!! Lol
+ I wanted HD to win the format war!
Damn it!!!

Ken J says:

Actually 790, optical discs (DVD’s, CD’s, etc.) don’t last forever. They actually do wear down eventually, not by friction, because there isn’t any, but through the chemicals wearing down by heat.

Of course, this take a long time, by the time that happens a new format would have been released, lol.

But anyway, about the news of TDK selling like hot cakes. I only have one question:

Do hot cakes really sell that well??

jimmy says:

i have the special edition and it sucks – nothing good on it other than the movie which is not worth 30 bones on = ripped off

@greenknight

Nope, the “subsidiary” comment was just a joke – it’s just little ol’ me running this shop with the help of my boyz to write for you. :-)

Vic

greenknight333 says:

And you and your Boyz do a foine foine job.. :)

Cheers

greenknight333 says:

@ Ken J

Hotcakes or pancakes must sell really well since IHOP is a large chain specializing in hotcakes… :)

Metallicat79 says:

I am still using a Tube Television still, and until i can convince my wife that we need another TV or this one breaks down I won’t be investing into Blue Ray just yet, and besides, Like everyone else i have spent considerable time building my collection since the phase out of VHS and i am not looking to start all over again. (The first DVD i ever owned was Star Wars Ep I). I receieved my copy of TDK after a 3 day wait only to have my wife take it an wrap it for christmas, so i have not yet expierenced the suckiness that is TDK special features.

greenknight333 says:

My first DVD was the Matrix..I think I have burned all the chemicals out of that one because I watched it about a hundred times :)

ppnkof says:

Just quit messing around and give me HD digital downloads, already.

Case #2010920195 says:

Ordered it recently, not in yet (I might have to wait for it about 10 days, but by importing it I can get it €10 cheaper than getting at my local store (how weird is that ?). Though, wile i’m reading this I was kindly remembered that there is likely gonna be a special ’special edition’ in a few months.

So I’m rather sure that I am gonna be slightly annoyed if there will indeed be a better release. ah well, **** happens. Maybe I can convince one of my friends to buy the special edition from me, if the more-special edition comes out.

Sock Monkey says:

Lol Ken J, I have always wondered why that phrase was used, partly because I have never seen a Hot Cake. :D

@ 790
Its true that DVDs offer so much more content and personalization, but my family has had VHSs from twenty years ago and they still run fine. Plus, whereas VHS tapes can be dropped on the floor continuously, and still run good, DVDs should NEVER be dropped as they scratch easy. Now before you use the age old defense of “Well then don’t drop them!” Let me clarify that we handle our DVDs like gold. However, I do agree that DVDs are better than downloaded content, partly because you know exactly where the DVD is, (Most of the time) and because a DVD can’t get viruses.

As for The Dark Knight DVD, I was surprised (like everyone else) to see that the #1 movie of this fall had so little special features. But for having not seen TDK in theaters I was more than happy with just the movie. I was also glad to see that there were no deleted scenes, as it made the trilogy of content bearable. (The drama of Bruce Wayne not wanting to be Batman, The Joker, and Two-Face)

greenknight333 says:

@ sock monkey

hotcake=pancake=crepe=Pfannkuchen

I am such a nerd…Pancakes anyone? :)

“Hot cakes cooked in bear grease or pork lard were popular from earliest times in America. First made of cornmeal, the griddle cakes or pancakes were of course best when served piping hot and were often sold at church benefits, fairs, and other functions. So popular were they that by the beginning of the 19th century ‘to sell like hot cakes’ was a familiar expression for anything that sold very quickly effortlessly, and in quantity.” From “Encyclopedia of Word and Phrase Origins” by Robert Hendrickson (Facts on File, New York, 1997)

:-P

Vic

greenknight333 says:

Vic you are a geek dud!! ;)

greenknight333 says:

geek dude…geez one vowel changed the meaning of that whole sentence

ppnkof says:

Wow…these comments are going coming up faster than hot cakes…

greenknight333 says:

@ppnkof

Groan….LOL

blipvert says:

Just glanced over the whole DVD vs Blu-Ray conversation up there.

Speaking to a lot of folks and hearing these conversations, it doesn’t seem that many are aware that a Blu-Ray player will play regular DVDs and even upconverts them from 480p to roughly 1080i so there is absolutely no need whatsoever to ‘rebuild’ your entire collection from the ground up like in the VHS to DVD changeover.

I haven’t seen it with my own eyes, but I understand that while you are correct and DVDs look MUCH better on a Blu-Ray player due to up-conversion, Blu-Ray discs still blow away even THAT picture.

I’ll find out in a couple of weeks. :-)

Vic

Metallicat79 says:

That is good stuff to know, I didnt think that a BR Player could play DVD’s. Does anyone know when Xbox will release their BR Player if they have not already?

Ken J says:

I don’t see how so many people are surprised. I’m not surprised. They are expecing the fanboys to spend another $8-$12 to watch it again in theaters for goodness sakes, you don’t think they KNOW they can rip people off with multiple special, “special special” edition DVD’s?? I’m not at all surprised they would do this. And sad thing is, IT WORKS.

Ken J says:

People are like foaming at the mouth at even the mention of TDK, the campanies making money from this would be stupid to not take advantage of it, lol.

And I think they need to change the saying. It should now be “These hot cakes are selling like TDK blu-ray discs!”

Metallicat79 says:

Anyone remember the dyas when there was jsut one edition released and you didn’t have to shell out additional money for a 2 Disk edition?? And i am still not sold on the Digital Copy Crap, especially since i can’t put it multiple devices and can only copy once, it, to me is stupid, because really how many copies of one movie do you need? If i am going to watch, Ill get up off my lazy ass and put the disk in the DVD tray.

790 says:

Yeah I remember those days Metalicat79.

Isn’t ironic that Wall•E preaches that were destroying the eco system with junk, and look there’s 3 versions of Wall•E on dvd/Bluray. The special edition even has that cardboard sleeve thingy that I throw away as I’m walking out of the store. There’s usually no recycling bin near by so I throw it in a regular trash can. (Damn I’m killing the planet)

I think this is all part of their “Go Green (to save the children) Program?”
Or maybe going Green stands for making money…
Nah they wouldn’t lie to us,,, :-)

I’ve been using the digital copies as dvd coasters,,, they work great for large beer bottles. You can also use the digital copy to signal aircraft if you get stranded out in the desert or on a boat,,, they don’t work good as Frisbees though,,,

You could use them for target practice?

Metallicat79 says:

@790
The thing that pissed me off the most about Wall-e was not so much the packaging or the Go Green attitude, it was the friggin price for the 3 Disk Edition. $35.00 but with all the taxes and such thrown in there. 35 bucks!!!
Hellboy 2 3 disc only set me back 28 bucks, Disney is definetly going green, but in the environmental way. I was realy choked that i had to settle for the Single disk, being the Special features Junkie that I am.
We should get together and see how well we can turn them into Ninja Stars and Fling them at the doors of the studios and their Distributors.

Metallicat79 says:

I forgot a NOT in there, it should say NOT in the environmental way.
Sorry, Brain Thinks faster than my fingers

Ken J says:

Yah, if you’re really good, you can try to shoot through the hole without hittig the disc. I think my most accurate rifle that is sighted in at the moment is 1.5MOA, might need something better…

790 says:

Yeah its all BS with this Go Green crud.
Its Soylent Green!
Disney sucks !!!
The effort there putting into converting films to 3D is disturbing as well!!!
^
Ken I was thinking more like digital clay pigeons…
12 gauge fodder.

ppnkof says:

What about the “Platinum and Ruby Deluxe Ultra Special Director’s Edition Dark Knight Mantle Set”?

That thing would sell like Hot Cakes.

icingdeath69 says:

All this talk about hot cakes is makn me crave them. Where can I buy the best hot cakes?

greenknight333 says:

IHOP

greenknight333 says:

Well I’m kind of embarassed to say that I did not know that Blipvert…maybe I will go get that BluRay player now :)

Thanks

Ken J says:

IHOP does not have the best hot cakes… That’s like saying McDonalds has the best burgers…

greenknight333 says:

best is subjective Ken J…My house is the place to get the best hot cakes!!

greenknight333 says:

or FOX makes good movies

blipvert says:

greenknight

Save yourself the several hundred bucks. Just get a PS3. (Even if you don’t play console games.) It reads Blu-Ray, DVD and CD formats.

It’s a huge blunder I’ve noticed from the Blu-Ray developers that simply have not advertised that fact to the general public. Most folks are sticking their feet in the ground and saying ‘no i will not change over again. I just got a good collection going’ If the blu-ray makers informed most of these folks that their collections are still well and valid it would speed along the whole transition.

Even folks who have bought a Blu-Ray are not fully aware. I just scored 20 pretty recent and decent DVD movies for 40 bucks from a fellow in the classifieds who switched over to Blu-Ray and was under the impression his DVDs were coasters now. I just didn’t have the heart to tell him that his discs would work fine in his blu-ray (plus i wanted his super cheap DVDs lol) Maybe that’s the reason they’ve remained so hush about it.

Everyone tells me the same thing “get a PS3.” But I didn’t. I got a Panasonic Blu-Ray with excellent reviews for less than $200. I don’t need to spend $350+ for a PS3 just to watch movies because I don’t play video games.

I went with this one:
http://twurl.nl/eqogyc

Which I was able to pick up for under $200.

Vic

790 says:

Within 3 months BluRay players will be around 100 bucks. By next Christmas they’ll be under 100.

I’m in noooo hurry to get one. My dvd player still works.

It’s most disappointing and a shred of greed would seem to in the mix if they EFF us over with another version of extras later on.

So like, what, it will the special edition with a Bat Cowl?? It better if they’re going to pull this!

Grr… argh… phffft.
Sorry, my cat got on the keyboard.

Ken J says:

Yah, PS3’s are way overpriced, and all-in-one electronics rarely perform individual functions as well as dedicated machines. A Panasonic anything will basically out-perform a Sony anything, so I say Vic made the right move. But I’m going to wait until they get even cheaper. My target is in the $100-$150 range for a name-brand Blu Ray player.

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