Comic-Con: Summit’s New Moon Panel is Topless & Awkward

Hi im kiki and im a huge fan of twilight. im going to put out that iam a teen so im reveling in eveything teen right now. any ways ppl who slam twilight have probaly not read it. but just because these vampires glitter doesnt mean it sucks. as some of you may know or not there are several teen vampire novels out right now and the one thing that i have noticed is that evrey vampire IS different and what i mean is one vampire glitters, one vampire drinks true blood to live in society,one is filthy rich living in the upper east side of manhatten(blue bloods by melissa de la cruz, and one is BLADE. Twilight was Stephanie Meyers dream (litterally)so dont bash it. Every1 dreams. MLK had a dream and it came true. No need for example but look around... you are one.

In my opinion, no movie will ever live up to the original novel. (Dune, Clan of the Cave Bear, any of the Harry Potters, etc..)

But yes, like Melissa says, hope springs eternal.

As for the popularity and longevety of the series, I believe it will endure. I have been reading vampire novels long enough that I remember when Anne Rice released Queen of the Dammed. And I'm a bookseller at a major chain to boot. A day dosent pass that we don't sell two dozen of one of Meyers books. Recently I have read many of the other teen books revolving around the paranormal and believe me, Meyers is a better writer than most. Unfortunately, they are still just teen novels and I'm getting really tired of all that angsty moody teenage crap.

And since this is a movie site, yes I will run out to see the New Moon flick. I am a fan (oh horror!) and I am looking forward to it. I don't bother seeing the Potter films anymore because I'm too tired of being disappointed. Give me a few years, I might burn out on Twilight too.

Ah, but hope springs eternal. (sigh)

This is ridiculous. It doesn't matter whether or not you like the series (I for one can't stand it), just because someone does not agree with your opinion doesn't make them 'inferior' or 'ignorant' or 'haters' and if you don't like it read/watch something else.

Well,as you know, Melissa,I have read the books,and poorly written and unoriginal as they are, I understand the allure.

After all, Mills and Boon have just as big a following. It is not 'high art', but escapism pure and simple.

After seeing many other panels over the weekend, the panel members for New Moon (aside from the director) did the worst at presenting themselves, responding to questions and simply being able to communicate :(

For NHOJ & 790:

This is a movie site, Screen Rant... I fully support your right to have an opinion on the movie Twilight and your interest in the movie New Moon without reading the books they are based on. Movies should and do have to be able to stand alone. The first movie, as most honest Twilight fans who aren't obsessed with Robert Pattinson would admit, didn't do a very good job. So I would understand your incredulity at the level of our passion.

However, suggesting we read another vampire book that is a "true" vampire book doesn't mean much to us. In all honesty, the vampire element is not why we love these stories. I could care less about Dracula or how vampires are "supposed" to be written. Meyer created her own world - She made it almost believable, in a fantasy sort of way. She came up with new reasons why vampire legends/myths exist (sunlight doesn't hurt vampires but it exposes them as non-human - made me think of how the moonlight exposes the pirates as ghosts on the pirates of the caribean movies). She did a very cool and unique thing with the werewolves introduced in New Moon... Just the way they communicate with each other is fascinating... and then she wove it into Native American type 'magic' and legend...

But as interesting as all that is, that's not why we love it. We love the characters, we love the romances, the suspense and element of danger each book holds (and we are all hopeful the next movie gets it right.) We love the family dynamics, the friendships, the sacrifices the characters make for each other... We aren't really die hard vampire fans.

Also, don't dismiss us so quickly. To say no one will remember Twilight in 10 years I believe to be highly inaccurate. (Maybe the first movie or the actors, sure, but not the books). Do you believe that no one will remember Harry Potter in 10 years time? I don't mean to compare the 2 series, as I hate those arguments as well, but both books are similar in the passion they inspire in their readers.. I for one will certainly introduce my future children to Harry Potter and Twilight... and I know those stories will resonate just as much with them as they do with us. The fandom is not going anywhere.

All we can do now is hope that this movie will not lose so much in its translation to the big screen as the first one did.

P.S. BSL... I just read the first page of comments and see you weren't as attacking in the beginning... so I apologize if you felt backed up against a wall before you started lashing out...

BSL - I am kind of curious reading your posts... what do you hope to accomplish? Your tone is very attacking and I wonder if you think you can get someone to read a book by attacking them like you are. People are ALLOWED to not be interested in our Twilight world...just as you are allowed to not be interested in...oh I don't know, The Transformers movie for example. People can think they wouldn't like it based on some extreme fan reactions or just the fact that really, it's a romance and not everyone is into that. That's okay.

You might say something like, I'm sorry you have such a negative opinion but I find it sad that you are missing out on something great... instead of calling people who express disinterest 'haters' and 'ignorant.'

I don't mean to attack you, heck I am ONE of you... I just don't see why you are expending so much energy going on the offensive against people who aren't interested. You are in no way going to FORCE them to be interested... And a lot of people will argue with you just for the sake of arguing... so it is a WASTE of your time.

There's plenty of internet sites out there where you can express your love for Twilight with other fans who will whole heartedly agree with you...

You take this Twilight stuff WAY to serious BSL, and THAT is my point.

I'm going to go enjoy my world of hate mongering now.
I'm 790,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, good day. :-)

790-Hate to break it to you--the world does not revolve around you and your opinions-the thing between me and Vic is regarding another posting. You are obviously here only to be the spokesperson of the ignorant and unread. Your examples of hating anyone whom the media tells you to without doing your own research is one of things that has gone fundamentally awry in this day of instant communication gratification and you should not be proud in stating as such.

I don't care what you think of Twilight or me, although I see you're trying to bait me into your world of hate mongering which I won't do. I'm not going to respond to you further.

Forgive me for the sin of asking you to read a book!

Good points Melissa,,, finally a rational Twilight fan... ;-)

BSL, sorry if you can't deal with the fact that I have an opinion on a book series I've yet to read. I have similar opinions on the fans/followers of Islam and $cientology yet I still haven't read Dianetics or the Koran. Do you think after reading the Koran I would get into Islam? Prob not, so you see I can base an opinion on a topic from fans behaviour and the subject matter. Your point of view is bordering on Twilight fanatical extremism. I've seen it before.

I guess Vic should add, "No negative comments on Twilight" to the list of terms for posting comments. I haven't used any hate speech on this thread. Sheesh.

Vic: thank you, I appreciate your response.
Melissa: Unlike you, I do care whether or not the haters/naysayers are giving informed opinions. I think it's important in a crazy world that thinks what's on the internet is God speaking that these people be exposed not as having not well thought out things to say, but that they are basing their loud opinions on gossip and heresay. Yes, i think they do need to read the books to have an opinion of their own, not spread the lies.

790 is still spouting the woes of reading Twilight when he has yet to pick it up and read it! I am at a loss as to why ppl insist on putting the series/fans/movies down from a purely ignorant point of view. I liken it to the person who feels left out at recess.

@Leech

If you've been attacked I apologize. We're BURIED with covering Comic-Con right now and I haven't had the time to monitor comments as closely as I usually do. We get hundreds a day and I generally go through them all to look for anything out of order, but for the past few days I haven't had the time.

Vic

The arguments in the comment sections are so old and redundant.. this is crap, no it's not, this is unhealthy, no it's not, read the book, no I don't want to/have to, bla bla bla BLA.

As an actual fan of the series I have to say everyone is entitled to their opinion... I personally don't see anything wrong with us having our little fantasy world within the Twilight books or movies or whatever we choose to love... I certainly don't insist you all should go read the books to understand us. If you have no interest in it, that's great.. what I don't get is why do you keep commenting on these stories then??

I personally have NO interest in American Idol... I have never seen an episode, and that is huge and popular too... but yet somehow I manage to not click on blogs/stories that talk about it and don't waste my time reading about it/commenting on it/and arguing with the fans of it about why it is a valid way to spend ones time or why it is not.

Bottom line, I don't personally care if you 'get it' or not... But shouldn't you be happy that a book has come a long with the power to get the younger generation READING again?? All this passion you see, this is based on a bunch of novels. How often does something like this stir the passions of the younger generation, especially these days when reading has become kind of 'uncool.' These stories have inspired creativity and entrepreneurship, internet sites, youtube videos,and so much more... I personally have 2 younger cousins that these are the only books they have ever actually read all the way through... So I for one am happy that the movies are generating so much enthusiasm.... Maybe more people will actually become curious enough to pick them up and see why we like it... (hint it is NOT the first movie for most of us... that was kind of embarrassing...)

But I'm not here to say 'read the books and then you can talk to me' I'm just hear to say... if you're not interested, why even waste your time making the same arguments over and over?

I have high hopes for this film, as it is based off my favorite book in the series... And Chris Weitz seems like a much more talented and focused director than Twilight had the first time around...

No offence Reader/order 66, but if my niece were to get hooked on "Twilight" I would try to educate her on other creative avenues.

I don't believe the life lessons in "Twilight" are valuable or redeeming in any way. If you can prove me wrong go for it !!!

I don't understand why people feel the need to attack the Twilight series just because it is very successful and their fans are really passionate..if you don't like it that is fine...Just let people who do love it enjoy it and have a bliss with Rob Pattinson...Because in the middle of all this..HE is the main reason this series have so many fans...your analogies are not taken...so keep them WE DON'T CARE!! WE ARE HAVING A GOOD TIME....SO LET US BE!!!!

So you've read the books NHOJ?

BloodsuckingLeech: If you want a truly GREAT piece of vampire literature, read 'Let the Right One In.'

Twilight (no offense) is like something that's been put together by a fangirl that has no inkling of how a vampire story is supposed to be written (sparkling vampires? Yeesh). I get that there's a huge market for such stories but just because a crap-load of people read it doesn't make it high art.

remember, they're only kids and they've been put under a huge amount of pressure, not only professionally but personally as well. give them a break.

Not reading Twilight is a sacrifice I'm willing to take BSL.
Really great that this work of literature is part of the educational system. This would explain some of the behaviour I see in todays youth.

790-I'm really sorry that you will not allow yourself the pleasure of reading Stephenie Meyer's book series. It is much more than you think it is, really. It's a love story, and it's not exclusive to teenage angst. Love is for everyone. It's also a story of sacrifice and family. And what we are willing to do for the ones we love. Even to die in the place of a beloved family member because you think it's all your fault. And that's just the first book.

Stories about teens have been around forever-you don't have to be Jane Eyre, David Copperfield, Oliver Twist, Emma Woodhouse or Bella Swann to feel along with them.

This series is already a classic in the world, my friend. They teach it in some schools as part of the curriculum, because it is a well made story.

And with that, I bid you adieu...may life treat you well.

@BloodSucking Leech, let me get this straight. You feel that the music of The Beatles is on par with the Twilight books?
(*The films don't capture the true brilliance of the saga?)
I will agree that the female Beatles fans of the 60's were rabid crazy. Your only validating my point BSL.

Also)
My assessment of Twilight is so "way off" that reading the books will change my opinion?
We should prob agree to disagree on this BSL. Because there's no way I'm going to waste time reading Twilight. Just like there's no way in 30 years anyones going to care about Twilight.
These novel based teen angst cinematic dramas come and go.

Okay 790-but your arguments are getting a bit boring because you really are not speaking from any kind of real knowledge of Twilight the book series. The movie is NOT the book series. The fans are NOT only the ones making asses of themselves on tv. Yes, you do need to read them to form YOUR OWN opinion. and YES the Beatles analogy was necessary because people acted just the same way about them back in the day and yes even though the Beatles fans were sometimes fanatical idiots, the music is still epic. The first movie did not capture the essence of the books and the books are not crap. Read them, make an informed opinion.

Just posting my opinion on how I see it. Please I don't need to read Twilight to have an opinion on it. Just like I don't need to listen to Rap Music to find it offensive. I can clearly get a taste of what its all about. If its not a romantic escape into forbidden teen love with a new twist on a youthful immortal vampire, please let me know. I've watched the trailers. It reminds me of Lost Boys or Buffy the Vampire slayer. (Also heavy teen angst ridden)
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"Movies, books, music all do the same thing you describe here: They fill up a void in our lives with something intrinsic." I totally agree, however this is Screen Rant and this is my opinion. I'm not hate speeching anyone here. Playing the Beatles card is unnecessary.
I'm not trying to anger the fans of this franchise I'm merely stating my thoughts on the level of obsession some of these fanatics have at Comic Con, its freakin laughable to hear that fans "mostly young females" have been waiting over 2 days to see the actors/characters of Twilight.
After reading why the fans dig this novel/movie franchise, I'm still not convinced this is anything other than yet another teen angst ridden love drama divided up into sequel after sequel.

Oh and please male readers of Screen Rant fans of Twilight don't be shy let me hear what I'm missing out on?

(That's exactly what a ignorant person would say,) or maybe Oscar! I'm looking at it from outside the Twilight bubble?

Honestly, I'm actually more afraid of obamatrons heath care bill...
I think I see your point that Twilight isn't just for teenage girls that spend all they're free time texting and cell phoning about Twilight and the sequel. (Girl Power) remember the Spice Girls, they were all the rage at one time...

Sure I get that your wife digs the novel, but afraid it will take over? Take over what Americas youth?
Sure Twilight will be around for awhile but trust me there will be another huge cinematic event based on a popular novel that will start all this up again in a few years.
One question I have for Rob, how many guys (besides media) were part of the Twilight crowd? I'm betting it was very low,,,

^^^ That's exactly what an ignorant person would say. You really have no clue what your saying right?
"I think one reason Twilight is popular at this time is because there’s a huge disconnect with young women in terms of their family and social relationships.
I see a lot of young women obsessed with Twilight because it fills a need that they don’t have in real life." My wife loves Twilight, everything you just said is false. To me it just seems that your threatened by Twilight, your scared that more and more things like Twilight will emerge and take over.

790 thanks for your non-threatening reply (you'd be surprised). The fan base is riddled with adolescent children who probably fit your description, as is any highly popular item in pop culture. The Beatles had theirs but that doesn't mean their music was shite, does it?

However, I would like to pose to you that the fan base is not all that you describe. They are just the loud (and sometimes very obnoxious ones). Twilight is not a book that just attracts teens it has a HUGE over 30 following and I'm not remotely joking when I say huge. And guys like it too, btw.

Movies, books, music all do the same thing you describe here: They fill up a void in our lives with something intrinsic.

Everyones free to speak there mind. If Twilight fans want to bash Iron Man or Batman go for it.
I would love to read those comments.
(Maybe I'm way off base here but,,,,)
I think one reason Twilight is popular at this time is because there's a huge disconnect with young women in terms of their family and social relationships.
I see a lot of young women obsessed with Twilight because it fills a need that they don't have in real life.
Camping out 48 hours to see a panel on a movie is evident that these fans all have the same longing and free time.
Guys (mainly) are always going bash Twilight because to us its a uber-teen angst ridden drama trolley of girl loves vampire...
Oh the taboo, oh the mystery, the romance... (Yawn)
This kind of film takes advantage of what young women go through as they develop into women.
Twilight is channelling that energy into a money making franchise.

This energetic frenzy of sexual bs is then carried over to tabloids that speculate on the off camera romance between the stars of the film. Go into any supermarket, etc and look at the covers of the trash gossip magazines like Us, People, Twilight is on every cover. Who buys those magazines, "teenage girls and women."
Enjoy the film, but when it takes over your life and you find yourself in Hall H after waiting in line for two days,,, ah, I'm not going to call you a redneck but you may have serious mental and psychological problems.
And I would say the same thing about any Star Wars fan etc. waiting in line for more than 2 days. (Serious obsessive mental issues)
Its not that they're bad people, there just going through a strange developmental phase that one day "hopefully" they will look back on and say, "wtf was I thinking?" :-)

It would've be really nice if ScreenRant actually had a writer who read the books/likes the series to comment here. But that's the theme here isn't it? Twilight bashing is rampant.

Anyways, the screaming was not only for the beautiful physiques of their favorite characters that have come to life in front of them, but for the extremely well done parts that were previewed. This movie, much more than the first (like night and day), is sticking close to the book. Jacob's teaching Bella to ride was significant because he was touching her hands.

And by the way? Your blurb about "no personal attacks" is BS. I've been personally attacked for giving opinions on this site. Where were you then?

NHOJ,

Do you know who made that pic?