10 Lesser-Known Comic Book Characters That Deserve a TV Show

Published 2 years ago by , Updated August 8th, 2012 at 9:44 am, This is a list post.

10 Lesser Known Comic Book Characters That Deserve TV Shows

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - Intro With the 2012 San Diego Comic Con at an end, we are left with some pretty exciting announcements about some lesser-known comic book characters like DC Comics' Lobo and Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy getting the feature-film treatment. With the exception of Arrow, most superheroes are headed to the big screen - so we decided to take a closer look at some of our favorite (but perhaps not so well known) comic book characters that would make truly awesome TV shows. Let's kick things off with the man with a face most don’t soon forget…

Jonah Hex

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - Jonah Hex Who:  Civil War veteran turned bounty hunter with the face only a mother could love. Found In The Pages Of: Jonah Hex, currently featured in All-Star Western (DC Comics) The Story: After being sold to Apache natives for some furs by his father, young Jonah was educated in the tracking and combat ways of the tribe. Adult Hex fought as a soldier in the southern ranks during the American Civil War, where he was brutally scarred for life by a cruel union officer. This prompted Hex to become a bounty hunter with a strong sense of justice - even spending time cleaning up old west Gotham City. Why Him: Okay, most people don’t jump for joy over cowboys anymore – especially when there’s vampires and spaceships out there - but Jonah Hex is worthy of a closer look. Despite the less than thrilling movie, Hex goes beyond the token "White Hats" vs "Black Hats" type of western – and seeing him track down criminals in early wild west Gotham would definitely be a sweet sight on the TV screen.

Snow White & Bigby Wolf

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - Snow and Bigby Who:  All the fairytale and nursery rhyme characters your mummy ever read to you with a real-world twist. Found In The Pages Of: Fables (Vertigo) The Story: When their storybook Homeland is attacked by the mysterious "Adversary" most of the fairytale characters of old are forced into the real world to live among humans, whom they refer to as "Mundies" (short for mundane). Those lucky enough to look human live in an area of NYC known as Fabletown, run by Deputy Mayor Snow White and her husband, Sheriff Bigby Wolf. Those unfortunate enough (or too poor to afford spells from the witches to suppress any unnatural traits) are shipped off to the dreaded Farm. The rules are simple: all past villainy is forgiven as long as you obey the law and don’t reveal yourself to the mundies – easier said than done. Why The?: Okay so everyone knows Snow White and the Big Bad Wolf, but this is definitely not your childhood stories – there’s enough violence, cussing and sex in this series to make even HBO blush. The only slight hitch might be making Bigby’s werewolf transformation look realistic enough; as Teen Wolf can attest, it’s not that easy.

X-Statix

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - X-Statix Who: The mutant "superhero"  team known as X-Statix formed not as a group genuinely devoted to fighting crime, but to capitalize on the fame and fortune that being a superhero can bring, by filming their exploits for reality TV. Found In The Pages Of: X-Force, and later X-Statix (Marvel) The Story: The team known as X-Statix was ill-fated from the very beginning. On their first mission all but three members were violently killed while saving a boy-band (by their own TV network to boost ratings). This occurence of team members meeting with horrible and increasingly gruesome fates was a recurring theme for the squad that cared more about celebrity, merchandise sales and profit margins than actual heroics. Core members The Orphan, Doop, Anarchist and U-Go Girl managed to survive for a time - but even with their growing morals they too were unable to leave the team unscathed. Why Them: With sex,drugs and superpowers, X-Statix is probably one of the best self-contained stories Marvel has ever put out. The progression from spoiled reality stars to proper heroes is told in a way that actually makes you feel for characters that at first you might hate. In a tragic twist, by the time the X-Statix become a team not totally fame-driven it’s too late. Since the comic book series is set up as a "reality" show, it would also be a cool idea to set up a scripted TV show in a similar way - even if costumes and budget force the show from live-action to an adult-style cartoon.

Lucas Bishop

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - Lucus BishopWho: Former X-Man and FBI Agent from the future , Bishop has the mutant power to absorb most types of energy directed toward him and then re-channel it through his body into concussive blasts. Found In The Pages Of: Uncanny X-Men, District X (Marvel) The Story: A mutant cop from the future, Lucas Bishop comes from the harsh dystopia where mutants are tattooed with an "M" over their right eye and are herded into concentration camps at an early age. Now stuck in the present day, the former X-Man and FBI Agent uses his foreknowledge of the future, his mutant powers and his human partner Ishmael Ortega to police District X, a dangerous part of New York City overrun by mutant gangs. Why Him: Everyone loves good old-fashioned buddy cop show, right? – especially when one of the cops is a bad-ass dude with the power to shoot energy blast out of his hands. Be it human or mutant - if written well, any opponent Bishop encounters would be a less cheesy stereotype than some of the other cop shows of the recent past (*cough* CSI).

Batwoman

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - Batwoman Who: Kate Kane is a carefree party-girl socialite by day, ass kicking vigilante by night. Found In The Pages Of: 52, Batman and currently featured in Batwoman (DC Comics) The Story: Following her dismissal from the US military for being a lesbian, and the death of her sister, Kate Kane would live a destructive party-girl life that would later lead to alcoholism. A chance encounter with Batman inspires Kate to find a new calling, and adopt the mantle of Batwoman. While not receiving the Dark Knight’s official stamp of approval, Batman allows her to continue, since Kane is in the same social circle as Bruce Wayne and he knows what she’s been through and what she can do. With Batarang lessons from Nightwing and extra combat training from her Marine father, Batwoman has become quite the force for good in Gotham City  - too bad she's also on the top of her girlfriend Detective Maggie Sawyer’s must-capture list. Why Her: We keep holding our breath for another (less-campy) live-action Batman TV show – but let’s face it, with all that extensive  movie money rollin’ in, it’s never going to happen. Not only is Batwoman an all kinds of awesome role model for the LGBT community, her Bruce Wanye-esque origin story makes her easy for all sorts of people to get behind. As she is not officially part of his team, a Batwoman TV series would not depend on Batman appearances to survive  - plus, with neat gadgets like "taser gloves" and the Scarecrow's "Fear Toxin," Batwoman has just enough of the Caped Crusader in her to appeal to even the most die-hard Batman fan.

Venom III

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - Venom III Who: Eugene "Flash" Thompson was a hot-shot high school football player and Peter Parker’s (Spider-Man) former bully. Currently he’s Peter’s best friend, a Corporal in the US Army and the third character to be properly called Venom (if you don’t count the people that only wore the symbiote suit for a minute or two). Found In The Pages Of: Spider-Man and currently Venom vol. 2  (Marvel) The Story: As president of the Spider-Man Fan Club, Flash Thompson followed the heroic steps of his favorite superhero and joined the US Army to save lives. After losing both his legs in Iraq, Flash became an alcoholic just like his abusive father. Given a second chance, Flash was chosen to participate in "Project Venom," which uses the villainous Venom symbiote (now in military custody) to create a super soldier. Flash now uses the power of Venom (web-slinging, super strength, even some fancy new legs) for good, but must remain calm and cannot stay bonded to the symbiote for more than 48 hours, in order to prevent it from gaining total control of him. Why Him: Venom is beyond cool that’s why! While the best-case scenario would be a live-action depiction, it’s probably better to go the way of an animated series. With the shape-changing abilities of Venom, the budget to make everything perfect might be too high – but a more mature-themed cartoon would take limited backstory to set up as an ongoing series.

Gus

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - Gus Who: Gus is a 9-year-old deer-boy with antlers - and is also part of a new breed of human/animal hybrid that arose after an apocalyptic pandemic hits the planet. After his religious father dies of an unknown illness, Gus leaves his Nebraska home in the forest with a mysterious man named Jepperd. Found In The Pages Of: Sweet Tooth (Vertigo) The Story: Written and drawn by Canadian Jeff Lemire, Sweet Tooth follows the misadventures of deer-boy Gus. When his father suddenly dies, men come to his forest home to round Gus and other human/animal kids up to put in concentration camps for experimentation. Saved by a hulking and violent drifter named Tommy Jepperd, who promises to take him to "The Preserve" (a fabled safe-haven for hybrid children), Gus’ new mission in life is to save other mutated kids and solve the mystery of the strange virus - all while avoiding getting captured himself. Why Him:  As a series that is described as "Mad Max meets Bambi" Sweet Tooth has a lot of potential to make a sweet TV show. Although the main protagonist is a 9-year-old boy, the things this poor kid goes through can easily be depicted in a way that would make even Starz  network executives cringe.  The show would probably need to update the age of Gus. 

Melaka Fray

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - Fray Who Now: Melaka "Mel" Fray is a 19-year-old Vampire Slayer of the distant future. Unlike other Slayers, Mel has no Watcher or any prophetic dreams to guide her. Found In The Pages Of: Fray, Buffy the Vampire Slayer Season Eight, Tales of the Slayers (Darkhorse) The Story: Following the events of Buffy Season 8, the Slayer line has ended and most demons have been banished from the earthly realm. Vampires (now called "Lurks") are slowly making their way back into the world, causing a new slayer to be called in the form of professional thief Melaka Fray. As the Watcher Council has now turned into a bunch of crazy fanatics, the role of Mel’s Watcher is being filled by a "good" demon named Urkonn. Fray must now navigate through a world of cops, mutants and demons, having no connection to the other slayers or their history. Did I mention her twin brother Harth is now a badass vampire that possesses the prophetic dreams and visions of past Slayers Mel lacks? Why Her: Let’s be honest – a lot of us miss Buffy terribly. While Fray is a great deal different from her blonde predecessor, the series still features a lot of the epic mythology and classic Joss Whedon style of writing and one-liners that made Buffy so popular. By setting it centuries in the future, the story of Fray the gun-toting vampire slayer will not be dependent on aging actors from Buffy or Angel to make an appearance.

Red Sonja

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - Red SonjaWho:  A spin-off character from Conan the Barbarian, Red Sonja - also known as The Warrior Woman of Hyrkania - is a skilled mercenary and unparalleled swordswoman who travels the world fighting the supernatural. Found In The Pages Of: Previously Savage Sword of Conan, Conan the Barbarian and Red Sonja (Marvel); Currently featured in Red Sonja (Dynamite Entertainment) The Story:  After a gang of violent marauders comes to town and kill her family, the leave Sonja alive brutally raped and beaten, and she cries out to the red goddess Scathach for vengeance. Scatchach bestows upon the young Sonja unparalleled skill in battle on the condition that she would never lie with a man unless he defeated her in fair combat. Sonja gladly accepted this offer. Now an adult, she is known as Red Sonja due to her fiery personality, flame-red hair, and uncanny ability to spill the blood of her enemies. Sonja travels the world as a legendary adventurer seeking to protect those who are helpless like she once was,  along with seeking revenge on those who killed her family. Why Her: The sword-and-sandals genre is pretty popular right now, and the void for a female lead within it could easily and skillfully be filled by Red Sonja. Think of Xena Warrior Princess meets Spartacus. Anything short of a Showtime/HBO-style bloodbath would be doing this series a great injustice. 

Multiple Man

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - Multiple Man Who:  Jamie Madrox is a mutant (or possibly something different) with the power to multiply his body into an undetermined number of duplicates. Sounds like a cool power; send your copies to learn things like fighting styles, another language or whatever, then reabsorb them and tah-dah, now you know it. Downside: your "dupes" are now growing increasingly independent and don’t always come back. Found In The Pages Of: X-Factor (Marvel) The Story: After a stint as a super hero on the government funded X-Factor, and later X-Corporation, Jamie Madrox hangs up his Multiple Man moniker and tights for a quieter life as a private detective. All is well until one of his "dupes" returns home with a big ol’ gunshot wound to the gut. The physical and mental trauma of absorbing a dying dupe forces Jamie Prime to solve his own murder as well as track down all his wayward dupes. With the help of some of his former X-Factor teammates, Madrox forms X-Factor Investigations in hope of helping other desperate mutants – while making a few bucks on the side. Why Him (Err…Them): This is not your classic detective or superhero story. Sometimes Madrox’s greatest foe is literally himself - whether it's a case of Jamie Prime not looking before he leaps, or a crazy dupe that wants to kill him and take his place. Writer Peter David has been scripting the character for years and if he could be tapped for writing a TV series based his X-Factor work, it would no doubt be a hilarious and action=packed show.

Honorable Mention

10 Comic Book Characters That Deserve A TV Show - Honorable Mentions She-Hulk: The idea of Ally McBeal meets the Hulk sure is a tempting one – and as I totally see zany antics mixed with heart-pounding drama, what I don’t see is a realistic physical rendering of She-Hulk. At best, a live-action jade giantess would come off as a well-done drag queen, and at worst… well…  In any event, if you are a fan of She-Hulk, she will be a main character on Disney XD’s animated series Hulk and the Agents of S.M.A.S.H this fall, voiced by the lovely Eliza Dushku. Deadman: Despite a kind of lame costume, Deadman has a lot of TV potential. As the ghost of dead trapeze artist Boston Brand, Deadman possess the bodies of the living to fight crime. Writer/director Guillermo Del Toro (Hellboy) has been rumored to be linked to a possible Crow-esque style Deadman movie with Nikolaj Arcel (The Girl with the Dragon Tattoo) set to direct – but since its been over two years since any word of the project, only Rama Kushna knows if the film will ever see daylight. Booster Gold: Booster Gold was actually on the top of my list, but Syfy is currently developing a Booster Gold TV series. The character is a cocky scamp from the 25th century, who steals a futuristic super-suit and comes back to the 21st century to make it big as a superhero. Using his historical super-computer named Skeets to jack big-time rescues from other superheroes (including Superman), Booster cares more about fame and endorsement deals than the citizens he" protects." Eventually, personal tragedy forces a personality change, but not before Booster gets permanently stuck in our time. It's been awhile since we heard word of the Syfy series, but hopefully we see Booster on the small-screen soon. Jessica Jones: Featured in the explicated pages of Marvel’s ‘Alias’ the saga of Jessica Jones is the most humanizing "superhero" story the company has ever produced and would make a hell of a compelling TV show – as long as all the sex, violence and swearing from the comic series makes it to the show. Formerly known as the superhero "Jewel," Jessica Jones hangs up her white spandex to become a private investigator. Not wanting anything to do with the superhero world, poor Jessica is still constantly bombarded with super-powered clients (including Daredevil) - and the fact she is being stalked by the villainous Purple Man - who has the power of mind control - doesn’t help much either. Marvel tried to get a TV series - AKA Jessica Jones off the ground, but failed. Time to try again. This has only been a sampling of some of the truly great comic book characters out there that could use a little more screen time. Check back with us for more info on the actual upcoming superhero movies and television shows announced this year at comic-con
TAGS: aka jessica jones, booster gold, deadman, jonah hex, red sonja, she-hulk, venom

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  1. I would LOVE to see a Batwoman show.

    • Yeah a batwoman show would be intersting

  2. A Jonah Hex show could be interesting. The character needs some redemption after that movie… yikes.

    • I agree. Deadwood, Hell on Wheels, even Justified has shown that westerns do work these days.

  3. I wouldn’t mind seeing a Fables series on HBO. Kind of got that now(albeit waterdowned) with Once Upon A Time on ABC. A Venom animated series with Flash Venom and a Bishop series would be awesome also. Bishop was one of my favorite characters from the 90′s X-Men cartoon. Love the idea but it would be Marvel television with Venom and Bishop. We all know how Marvel is with their tv properties. If they had a good thing going they would just wind up canceling it like they are with Avengers:EMH and like they did with Spectacular Spiderman. That or they would find a way to screw up Venom and Bishop up on the small screen to where it would be painful to watch like some other series. Looking at you Ultimate Spiderman.

  4. I would love a show about Madrox. X-factor is one of my favorite Marvel titles.

  5. Actually, I think the character who deserves a series more than anyone is Peter Parker/Spider-Man. The films are very good, but they are just too limiting for a character as rich as Peter Parker. 120 minutes every 3 years or so is just not enough Spidey for me.

    • YES! Finally someone who agrees with me!!! :D

  6. Fascinating read Scott, well-written and handsomely presented.
    I was not familiar with most of the characters with my comic book
    history essentially limited to Superman, Captain America, and Batman.

    You make a convincing case. Now if only television producers shared
    your imagination and were not as risk averse as they tend to be.

    • Hey thanks Robert!! I too wish some TV producers would take a risk on some of these, specially Multiple Man, Bishop and Red Sonja, if done right they can make a lot of money –but if you ever feel like expanding your comic book knowledge past Batman, I suggest Fables, Alias and X-Statix, you won’t be disappointed!

      • The strength of several of these titles would rely on what network picked them up–as you pointed out with Red Sonja. Several are cable-worthy, even if it were SyFy or AMC. Might be easier to justify bigger budgets for smaller-runs (6 or 13 episodes) too.

        • Excellent point, Jason, on where these shows could land.
          It seems that most risk is taken on the cable channels and
          they are finding an audience while still managing the budgets.

          • The cable networks seem to be attracting more Hollywood “names” to their projects, either before or behind the camera. Something dynamic and unique would certainly attract the right kind of talent and help tell a story we haven’t all seen a thousand times. As many variations of stories that exist in the world of comics, one would think it would be easy pickings.

      • You’re welcome, Chris, and thanks for the suggestions.
        I’ll check them out along with a few other titles you
        covered in your article that look quite intriguing.

  7. Isn’t Robert Rodriguez still planning a Red Sonja movie….keyword there is planning though :/

  8. Moon Knight and Heroes for Hire! Come now.

    • I thought there was talk of a Moon Knight franchise a few years ago.

  9. Etrigan the Demon I think could make a cool show.

    • Actually Etrigan was on my original list – but under closer inspection I realized it probably wouldn’t work out so well. I question the ability to do a realistic live-action transformation with him and all that rhyming would get old REALLY fast. Maybe an animated series might me cool though

  10. Id rather see she hulk on film with ruffalo and angie Harmon staring as her.

    And also I’d rather see red Sonja on the big screen with Megan fox.

    But great list a bat woman show would be sick!

  11. Only one I would be down for is Multiple Man. More like suspense/drama, with some humor thrown in…that would be constant opportunities for suspense in there!

  12. Most of these have zero chance of happening due to the high budget special effects required to make it work. The only one that would be interesting with a realistic budget cap is Bishop.

  13. I could defenitely get into an X-men t.v. show./ I also think A x-men district-x show would be amazing. so many different shows you could do with the x-men and they could be really really good if enough money and creative directing and acting was invovled.

  14. Venom!!!

  15. I love the idea of a (good) jonah hex show, and batwoman and flash venom too. too bad itll never be

  16. A TV show or a TV series ?

  17. Suggestion that wasn’t in the article or added in the comments, yet. Taskmaster. He’s a pretty sweet character but very odd character. ***Spoilers if you haven’t kept up on the comics****he’s married, a former S.h.i.e.l.d agent and everything is does is planned out by his wife without him knowing due to memory problems.***** I don’t know about all that such, but he would be very interesting to see on tv or in the movies.
    Moon knight if the show is based around his time spent in LA. I also think Eric O’Grady aka Ant-Man would be a pretty funny series as well. It would just all depend on what they do with the movie. Heroes for hire could work really well as a television series as well.

  18. Why not heroes for hire?

    • Iron Fist and Powerman? HELL YES!!!

      If done correctly, those two might get a movie! :D

      I would think Moon Knight and Daredevil (from Marvel), and Flash (from DC) would be good on this list as well.

      • Well, one year later Brandon, you get bragging rights. Look at your scorecard. Three out of four aint bad at all.

  19. Okay. Interesting list. Bishop, good choice, you can play around with the “laws” of time travel [Just don't let SciFi -I refuse to use that other name- (Never Forget!) anywhere near that.]

    Alright, I’ll pull the pin on this…
    Where’s Deadpool… c’mon, action, comedy… and romance. Who do I need to suggest Zucker, Abrams and Zucker do it? (Airplane! 3, with Deadpool)

    [Note to self, don't write comments after reading Deadpool]
    (Let me just cross that out)

    • Lol well I’m a huge Deadpool fan too, but he’s kind of a character that is cute for a taste, but not a swallow. He’s a really hard dude to humanizes as he’s always joking and no actor is going to be willing to wear that suit all the time on screen (as under the mask Deadpool is horribly scarred) – but ultimately I left him out because he’ll probably get his own movie anyway.

  20. no CABLE aka Nathan Summers show? that would ROCK! and you could get away with doing it on a modest budget…

    • Hey if they could do it, I’d eat from that plate, but Cable’s greatest enemy is Apocalypse (pretty much what Cable was created for) Good luck doing that on a modest budget.

      • You could do apocalype on a ” modest” budget. just use practicle FX. you would really only need CGI if he decided to grow huge in size. it would be EPIC!!!

  21. i was just talking about how they need to make something with venom as the lead, they could do so much with a show about him

    he could rip s*** right up son!!

  22. Great list. If they can’t afford to make the show live action, you’re right they should do a dark cartoon. One with the sex and violence, I guess Adult Swim or even FX would be a good place to air it. A great example was SPAWN, that was enjoyable for the short time it was on the silver screen.

    • I think DC has a choke hold on Adult Swim or anything being broadcasted on Cartoon network. Not for sure, though.

  23. Amazing list!! Never heard of Fray before, but after reading this I looked it up and now I would kill for a Fray tv show!

    Bishop would be cool too, but didn’t he turn evil in the comics now?

    • Hey thanks, definitely get into Fray, if you’re a Buffy fan it will fill a bit of a hole lol.

      As for poor old Bishop, yeah they “kinda” turn him into a villain. Long story short, a mutant “messiah” was born (Google: Hope Summers) while many believed she was the one to save the mutant race, Bishop believes she was the cause of the horrible dystopic future he comes from. He believes by killing the kid he will save the future (and his family that suffer there). Of course this caused conflict with the X-Men, (specially Cable) and now he’s seen as a monster.

      Despite his actions he truly believes he’s doing the right thing – so depending on your view of the situation he’s either still a good guy or a bad guy. Personally I pick the latter.

      • What?! That’s crazy! Way to ruin a good superhero Marvel.

  24. Moon knight !

  25. Exapanding on Entrigan I think morpheus aka Sandmanlord of dreams would work as a platform for a buddy cop adventure on AMC think Supernatural with lucifer as a fellow prisoner within the sphere of entrapment (see Preludes and Nocturnes.) then have Entrigan as a infornment on he sate of hell along with cain and abel for morpheus. We start with with Lucifer Wanting vengence but yet redeming himself through his hunt for magic users (Cue john consintine appearence and spin off here) with him ready to be solo by the wake (assume two seasons half sandman half lucifer with overlap per volume script pending) or maybe Daniel as a kid sidekick. Thus you get the basis for justice league dark with Sandman as your Furyesque character and lucifer and constine drawing in dead man ,mistress Xanadu and others in there subsequent showsor recuuring appearences.

    • I Apoligise deeply for my speeling its late here in aus

  26. I think Chew would make a great TV show (there have been rumors in the past, but it seems to be in development hell right now).

    Detective shows are so run-of-the-mill and boring to me, yet so many are on TV. It would be nice to have one with an interesting twist. I think the concept might be off-putting for any of the big networks, but it would be right at home on HBO, Showtime (who was rumored to pick it up), or AMC.

  27. Why not Vampirella?

    The Vigilante from classic DC would be great as a TV show too. He was the only DC character I really warmed to besides Batman.

  28. Man, sorry to be a wet blanket. But most superheroes belong on the big screen. TV just doesn’t offer the budget needed. Also, I may be in the minority but I though Smallville sucked, and Arrow looks like a watered-down pseudo-superhero show.

    • Lol don’t apologies for having an opinion as long as you have a good reason in thinking so. Frankly I mostly agree with you, that’s why I picked these guys. A lot of them don’t have things that would be too hard to depict on TV. Nowadays a lot of TV shows (IE Spartacus, Game of Thrones) do have big production budgets but limited episodes so for shows like Red Sonja it wouldn’t be so hard.

      As a big Superman fan Smallville was kinda my ugly baby. I mean I loved it cuz it was my Superman- related, but I spent most of the episodes yelling at the TV like an angry football coach. Arrow looks ok so far, I’m not a huge Green Arrow fan to begin with so I’m not too pressed about what they do with him.

  29. Never thought Multi man would make a good show (if it was JUST him). But this convinced me, it would be totally unique, same with Bishop… Jonah Hex would be kinda like Deadwood, but darker, and it needs a reboot after the movie.

    Not a fan of Gus. To be totally honest…

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