That is the question on everyone’s lips.
The man behind the second highest grossing film of all time (unadjusted) hasn’t signed on to direct a third installment yet, and The Dark Knight’s producer Charles Roven has said that nobody has even talked to Nolan yet because he is on vacation.
Roven said:
“There are a lot of us who emotionally would love to do it, but it’s really Chris’ call. Chris is the kind of filmmaker who just doesn’t think about the next movie before he has completely finished the movie he is working on. When he comes back, we will see how he feels.”
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You bet a lot of people want to make a third film - especially after the amount of coin that That Dark Knight has taken in ($871 million and counting!).
So how will Chris Nolan feel, and will he want to make another film in the series? And if he doesn’t, what would stop him from making Batman 3?
Well one reason not to return is that some believe that Nolan has made the perfect Batman film, and he might not be able to top that. Third films in a series are very hard to get right. The first film in a series is often an introduction to the characters; the second is where the plot develops and the third film often has the thankless task of sorting out the loose ends. It’s quite easy to bring up examples of disappointing third films in a series:
- Alien 3
- Terminator 3: Rise of The Machines
- The Godfather 3
- Spider-Man 3
- X-Men 3
- The Matrix Revolutions
- and some would even argue The Return of the Jedi (although not me).
Nolan strikes me as a director who likes to get things just right and if he doesn’t feel that he can do that maybe he would just walk away. After all, making a film of that magnitude takes a lot of time and effort, and if you don’t think that it’s going to be good why bother?
Another thing that might stop Nolan returning to Gotham City is salary. Few would argue that the success of The Dark Knight doesn’t rest on Nolan’s shoulders and his paycheck for a third film would have to reflect this. Therefore if the director doesn’t get the quote that he thinks he deserves he might move on to pursue other projects. Negotiations in Hollywood are often very tricky and the money men can often get very argumentative, so anything could happen with regards to that process.
If Christopher Nolan does decide to tackle Batman again it won’t be for another three years - at the very least. Nolan will obviously want to make another non-Batman related film between now and Batman 3, much like he did with The Prestige. Any “in-between” project will dictate the time frame of the next installment in the Batman franchise. Let’s just hope that Warner Brothers doesn’t pull an “X-Men 3” and try to rush the film into production with or without Nolan.
I would like to highlight that Nolan is a fantastic director in his own right, away from the Bat-franchise. Memento is a modern classic; The Prestige is a cracking little magical mystery tour and Insomnia is a good (and slightly under-rated) psychological thriller - so I don’t think that we can begrudge Nolan some time away to develop his directing skills on other films.
I have no doubts in my mind that Nolan will be back - but I have been known to be wrong from time to time. If Nolan doesn’t direct the film I wonder who Warner Brothers will hire to direct the next Batman movie? Surely not Brett Ratner? What about Frank Miller or maybe Zack Snyder?
Who would you like to see direct a Batman film if Nolan decided to leave the franchise behind?
Source: The Hollywood Reporter
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hmm..well Godfather 3 wasn’t meant to be a 3rd installment in the trilogy at all, the execs just forced the name into that to make it sell.
Return of the Jedi was pretty perfect as a number 3 as though.
Pirates 3 on the other hand was bad, and even worse than that was the 3rd Matrix film…and definately X3 which you pointed out.
I agree with you, that Nolan will be back but in 3-4 years time, building movies off of hype usually means rushed projects and done correctly. If nolan does another film first, it’ll clear his mind and the hype, and allow him the time to make a perfect end to the Bale Batman. That will also allow time for other DC films to get their title characters out, and as WB hopes, maybe lead to a multi-character film.
…and *not* done correctly.
I think WB would be INSANE to have anyone else besides Nolan on board for B3. If he wants $30 million, GIVE IT TO HIM. I mean even if the 3rd movie is HALF as good as TDK, it’ll make a killing and $30mil will seem like chump change. We certainly don’t need another Spidey 4 fiasco….
OOPS! Meant to say Spidey 3 fiasco….grrrrr
Haven’t we gone through this before,with Favs and IM2?Will Favs direct the sequel or not?They haven’t spoken since the premiere.Sound familiar?
Chris Nolan will direct,”Batman 3″,and he will get paid royally for it.
BTW,Kofi I always thought The Last Crusade was a better movie than Temple Of Doom in the IJ films.Of course nothing compares to Raiders though.
X-Men 3 was the best of the series.
I say give Batman to a director who will give us good emotion and action (Nolan’s action scenes were satisfactory at best), how about Ridley Scott, or whoever directed Phantom of the Opera. That movie had action, drama and it was a musical! Batman should sing in part 3.
Joel schumaker directed phantom of the opera. We’ve been down that road.
Joel Schumaker caused the Bat frieght train to take a dirt road.
Of course Nolans coming back and if he saved some footage of Heath like I’ve heard, then the next installment could be even better.
Nolan will be the go to guy for Batman 3 or the Dark Knight Returns…
if nolan, for whatever reason, decides not to do a third batman, then WB should just forget about it. at this point, i don’t think anyone would have much faith in another director to live up to the dark knight or batman begins. nolan has completely reinvented the character (at least cinematically speaking), and that would put a lot of pressure on another director. in the same way that no one else should play the joker in number 3, nolan should be the only director for number 3
I really hope he returns and I also hope they don’t call the movie The Dark Knight returns because I would love to see someone do an adaption of that comic to film someday and that kind of prevents that.
First off my first choice would definitely be Nolan. Whatever it takes, concede it to him, he’s earned it. But if he can’t do it, or doesn’t want to do it, I’d say get David Fincher to do it. He has a good track record. Yes, I’m aware that he did direct Alien 3, but that was his first movie. He did Fight Club, Seven, The Game and Zodiac.
The man can direct dark suspense-filled thrillers, he has an attention to detail and knows how to direct complex characters.
If Nolan couldn’t come back my first choice would be me lol but that wouldn’t happen. So I guess these guys would work.
Brian Singer who is talented and I think he could handle taking over if they would let him X2 was an excellent film. M. Night Shyamalan I’m not a huge fan of most of this guys work but Unbrekable was one of the finest works of art I have ever seen I think he could do a good job with Batman if he tried to stick with Nolans vision. James Mangold this guy simply has an excellent track record and in multiple genres.
Those are just a few names I could come up with off the top of my head.
What Joe said, I second. It would be somewhat agonizing not to see what happens to Batman after he’s voluntarily taken on the mantle of Gotham’s bad guy (falsely) for the sake of the city, but I’d rather leave it at that then have the jarring experience of another director stepping in (and several of the actors possibly not signing on, as it seems they’ve developed a bit of loyalty to Nolan) and providing a lackluster answer to those questions.
No, it’s all or nothing here and I hope it’s all, but I’ll take nothing if that’s what it comes to.
Are you listening WB?
Theres an obvious reason why he hasn’t committed to it yet:
Heath Ledger.
He has to know, for sure, that he can pull off a film that technically has the joker alive in it.
Interesting idea with M.Night, Daniel.
I always wondered what he could do with an already-established property, especially a highly-coveted one like that Batfilms. I heard a while back he was interested in doing the final Harry Potter film.
Although, I’m not sure he could pull of the action sequences. Who knows.
I liked signs, but I would be afraid to see M.Night’s twist ending at the end of Batman 3, or his cameo appearance. as a person I think he has a big ego, I heard somewhere he said he is this era’s Alfred Hitchcock and we all know that’s Bu(( sh/t.
i think peter Jackson should do it…
ok now maybe you will think i am crazy but peter knows how to make EPIC films LOTR (which btw i the hiest grossing trilogy of all time and LOTR The Return Of the King is Second to titanic in WW box office revenue’s.
i think he can maske a epic finish to the films that would blow us away
i love nolan and i want him back for the third but PJ just a thought…
I hope he only comes back if he truly has another great story to tell.
What /I/ want to know is what is going to happen with the whole Batman x Superman crossover. Anyone who saw “I AM LEGEND” would have noticed the billboard in the background advertising it, so I’m guessing it’s sort of a hint of an upcoming movie. But, getting back on the Nolan subject …
It would be suicide if Warner Bros hired anyone else BUT Nolan. He, afterall, singlehandedly PERFECTED Batman. As good as many of the directors you all mentioned are, I highly doubt they would be able to appropriately capture Nolan’s vision and transfer it into a third film. Now that we have seen the director’s take on the superhero, you could say that fans have certain expectations on how a Batman movie SHOULD be done. I imagine going on with the project without Mr. Nolan would only result in another disappointing movie that would destroy everything that made Nolan’s Batman so amazing. In my opinion, if they’re planning on making another Batman, they should do it right or not do it all.
M. Night? Well keep him out of the writing, or we will find out Alfred is really an alien that dissolves in water
I think they should hand it over to Alfonso Cuaron or Jean-Piere Junet they’ll be able to make it wierder, there’s nothing I hate more than a director trying to copy another director’s style…
If they are going to have a different director make the whole thing feel new!
i luvv christian bale and hisz movie soo if he doesnt star as batman in the next batman movie then I WILL COMMIT SUICIDE!! lolZz but i luv him with all my heart!
Alfonso Cuaron would bring have the best take on the movie, though Guillermo Del Toro or David Fincher would probably be more stylized.
I’d definitely veto Snyder until he can show the world that he knows what a character is.
God I would hate to see Guillermo take over. Nothing against the guy he’s decently talented judging by his previous films I’m afraid of what he would do to it.
Ok, Nolan will more likely be back because WB’s will bank role at least one or two movies to make sure he comes back. Nolan may finally be able to get The Prisoner movie made. At least thats the way I think it will go down.
Why does no one think of David Goyer when asking the question who may take over for Nolan when he’s done with the series. All of Goyers movies look great and he of course has his fingers on the pulse of what batman is and should be. He would be perfect choice to me.
I’m looking forward to seeing what the next movie for Nolan will be. As was said Momento is a classic and one of my favorite movies, The Prestige is another classic to me and a truly entertaining and great film and Isomnia is very under rated film.
Btw, notice I said Goyers movies look great, not that they are great movies…just thought I’d point that out, lol
Also GOD NO WAY ON Frank Miller. Love some of the guys stuff but The Spirit honestly looks awful…which I hate saying because I was looking forward to it, but not anymore.
David Fincher is one of my favorite film makers but I don’t see him doing a Batman film…but then again I was little leary of Nolan doing a Batman film and boy was I wrong on that one.
I think that Fincher would be a good choice for directing a Batman film.
I’ve always thought that parts of Seven reminded me of Frank Miller’s Batman Year One.
Niall
NOLAN SHOULD COME BACK TO DIRECT THE THIRD INSTALLMENT & IF HE DECIDES TO BRING THE JOKER BACK R.I.P HETH LEDGER DID A GOOD JOB. MABE ROBERT KNEPPER FROM PRISON BREAK COULD PLAY A GOOD JOKER.
Actually I can’t believe I didn’t think Goyer. I’m surprised it never came to mind. I think he could do a great job with it.I would still prefer Nolan, but I think Goyer would do just fine as long as he dosen’t get Blade-itis.
maybe a third installment is not the way
to go I mean after the success of the
dark knight it would be terribly difficult to top that even for nolan, and if he
is not on board for the project you can
forget about the rest of the cast
they won’t be in it if nolan is out… so
wb should think carefully what they’ll do
I still want the third movie. I can’t really get enough batman as long as it comes out to be a decent film i’m happy.
Daniel, Crazy thing is almost no one thinks of David Goyer I’ve talked to and almost everyone of them goes “Oh yeah…didn’t even think of him” lol, but seems like it might be a decent idea if you want someone who may kind of keep with a bit of the Nolan vision for the movies.
I’m starting to warm up to the idea of David Fincher as well. Just recently watched Seven and that is one good looking gritty movie (not that I didn’t already know that of course). Seriously watch that film and think of it as a story about a couple of cops in Gotham City and it kind of fits, the whole look and feel of the film is awesome, still one of my atf movies with a ending that M Night should watch to see what a real twist is
Edna, money talks and most of the cast would still be on for a non-Nolan batman film…well depends on who the director is. I mean if it’s McG no one would sign on right? Uhhhhh…wait…Bale is working McG on the Terminator movie…so who knows
if Nolan is not gonna do it, they should leave the movies alone…its nolan or no one!
I think that there might be more to Batman than Chris Nolan!
Niall
End the entire franchise just because Nolan isn’t working on the next one? There are lot’s of great directors out there who could still make a good film. Batman has always been one of the most complex characters in comics and to just not make anymore movies about him simply because one director got it right and didn’t come back is stupid.
Shure there a great directors out there,
but i think that every director has its touch, and in my opinion nolan nailed it, Nolan has taken the movies to next psychological en action level, and i am afraid that if someone else is gonna do it, the series are gonna go downhill, however the afore mentioned david fincher would be second best in my opinion cause he can make very gritty films, and maybe he can take it further down gritty lane..
and if nolan does not come back, and the third movie will turn out lousy, everybody is gonna go : i would have wished nolan did it..
There is no reason to let an entire franchise like Batman go to waste simply because Nolan isn’t coming back. Batman is a huge character you can’t just stop makin movies about him because a director made two great ones.
2 Daniel : i dont agree with you on that. Batman is indeed a huge character, however Tim Burton’s two batman movies where also very good and fun to watch..but you saw what happened when they changed directors, it really went down the drain!
The third movie in a trilogy is ALWAYS tricky to do well and I think directors are acutely aware of this.
As far as the Burton Batman movies, the first one was great, but for some reason it seems to be that he made the second one much more campy than the first, I didn’t like that at all. Anyone remember the Penguin remote controlling the Batmobile sitting in a little kiddy ride like you find in front of grocery stores?
What the hell was that?
Vic
# 1, If CN doesn’t return for B-III I’d I would seriously be afraid of where it’s gonna go. I’m not saying some one else can’t make a good Batman movie, but if you’ve got the gold, stick with it.
# 2, Whatever WB does, don’t hurry the next batman into production. This new string of Batman movies is like a shiny little pearl, would a bad thing to waste the potential.
# 3, Am I the only one in the world that doesn’t think Alien 3 en The Matrix Reloaded and Revolutions suck ?
How can you actually use Burton as an example B? You want to stop if Nolan doesn’t come back however if they decided not to ever make another Batman after Burton would would of never had the Nolan films.
allright. still if there was a third batman film it wouldn’t be as good as the dark knight whether is nolan or fincher or
the ghost behind ed wood! it just can’t
i would like to see one though, just for the fun of watching all of the other villains they can play with, still I thinkg it might just end up being a a big dissapointment and none of us are ready for that at least not yet.
How can you know that? I think it’s very possible for it to be better. TDK as great as it was still was not perfect. There is always room for improvement.
Personally though they could make the perfect film and I would still want to see more. Even if it wouldn’t be as good I just enjoy Batman stories. That’s like saying that The Long Halloween was such a great Batman story they should of stopped writing after it or after year one.
Hell no!! the Long Halloween was perfect!
so perfect! there was no room for mistake at all! and I don’t know it, I mean as good as it can be it can also be bad or just good not excelent But the same NOlan even said it The Dark Knight can carry itlsef alone wheter you can have a third part to it you cannot and still it would fit. And if we expected a great third film it could only come from Nolan’s hand definetly no doubt about he created it he is the only one who can carry on
I don’t really understand most of what you said. You can’t say that Nolan is the only one who can do a good third film like you know it as fact. For all you know some one could come in take over and do even better than Nolan. We can’t actually know at this point. If a great comic is written or a great movie is made that dosn’t mean you just stop making them because it’s not likely to make a better one. Just like the Batman comics have had other writers the movies can have different directors.
why so serious?
I think Nolan’s hesitation is, he can’t make the third film he always intended to make, due to Ledgers death. The 3rd film obviously was set up for the Joker to return, to make it a complete trilogy. Without the Joker, it’ll be hard to make the 3rd even close to the 2nd. Having 3 films each focusing on different villains is something he didn’t want to do, like the previous films.
that is not true a comic and a movie are two completely different things a film is not just paper is much more than that…
still whatever Nolan decides to do its up to him and still we’ll all be there front seat watching and stuff so ultimately is the same thing isnt’?
I take that as a great insult as should comic fans everywhere not only that writers everywhere. Just paper?
Sure after Burton’s and the rest off the batman movies was The Nolan interpretation of Batman, But Nolan brought the series a giant leap further, so that should not be brought down by another director, and it is gonna happen, when someone else is gonna direct, and as for the joker, there will be workarounds so the joker is not really essential for a next movie, but Nolan certainly is…and my thought is he is gonna do it..so we’ll wait and see.
I didn’t mean to offend anyone
hey i love comics too and writting I’m just saying you can’t compare the making of a comic to the making of a film that is why I said they were completely different with a film you can’t just erase away what you’ve done wrong its a completely different process that involves everything people money loads of money I mean … that was all I was trying to say I’m sorry if I offended you or any writter or comic lover around the world.
Before it’s on film it’s just a piece of paper. That’s how a movie starts off. Before they actually film it everything can be changed hell even after it’s been filmed you can still change things through editing.
Allright lets focus on the film allright! the film forget about the comic!
I meant the comic! a film and a comic! are differente…allright COMPLETELY DIFFERENT! that was my whole point! yes they can change it I know it! they can do all they want to it…still the reception from a comic and the reception from the film are entirely different as well…
Iknow there is a script that is on paper..I know it and yeah it can be changed it often is..changed by producers more than by the writers themselves…
plenty of what we see is not even there because the writers wanted it that way but because that’s what production told them to.
I think the circumstances make the 3rd Batman movie a very difficult situation. First, they killed off one of the most obvious choices for the next super villain, Two-Face, then they set it up for the sequel to see the return of The Joker, and we all know that can’t happen now.
I say the only thing to do is either somehow bring Two-Face back, like say that him “dying” was only symbolic, as in the dying of Harvey Dent but not Two-Face, or invent a new villain that could fit in this new dark Batman universe. Most of the other established villains are too corny to do. Scarecrow are already in it, but he’s always been a pushover, so I doubt he can portray the main super villain. Penguin and Riddler, no, don’t see it happening. Bane, MAYBE.
I’ve always thought it was a huge mistake to kill off Two-Face so fast when he’s always been one of Batman’s main villains…
So I understand his hesitation to announce being part of the 3rd one. But if they absolutely have to pick someone else, I think the best suggestion I’ve heard so far is David Fincher. Alien 3 was definitely pretty bad, but it was his first movie after all. He really came together after that. My favorite being The Game.
I agree that killing off Two face is a big mistake. I don’t think he was actually dead they didn’t ever reach for a pulse I know it’s a bit of a stretch but what else you gonna do.
I would love to See Bane or Black Mask in the next film that would be great. I could deal with Riddler but not at the top of my list. Hell a part of me even wants to see Clay Face, but would be hard to do in Nolan’s verse. I hope they don’t do Penguin unless they just make him some short fat mobster who has the nick name but doesn’t actually carry around an umbrella everywhere and quack. Still don’t really want him.
I really love Chris Nolan’s signature on both Batman films and feel it’s really his baby. However, I have to say, if Nolan was not going to do it, I’d go with David Fincher.
However, it is my supreme hope Chris Nolan takes the reigns. Of all the Batman films, my husband and I feel Batman Returns and The Dark Knight truly reflect the complexities of Batman and ditched the camp. Batman is a dark dude, and Nolan nailed it in every way.
If Nolan is not diresting it, then Christian Bale is not coming back - for Batman 3, he said so himself. And Christian
Bale is one hell of a good Batman and Bruce Wayne. He is also a dedicated method actor. However, I think that Nolan has ended it well with the second batman film. The way the film turned out, along with the ending, made it seem that Nolan was not going for a thrid film. He said prior to the release of the film that The
Dark Knight was meant to be a tragedy, not some cliche superhero movie. So there is no need to go with a thrid part. It would not mattered whether Heath Leger died or not, you can not just keep going with the Joker, in Batman 3, as people that had already seen The Dark Knight would just feel like it was a repeat of The Dark Knight all over again.
The only person who could do it justice other than Nolan would be Michael Mann. No one else could do it right.
I couldn’t stop laughing at the suggestion of Michael Mann.
Mann did some great work in TV, but did anyone see “Miami Vice the Movie”?
Wow, that film was unwatchable…
Miami Vice was so terrible. Ali had the potential to be good, but he dropped the ball.
I remember watching Miami Vice on dvd, and then (literally) taking out the dvd and throwing it in the trash…
Darren Aronofsky.
forget about michael mann and schumacher for director if nolan doesnt come back. but he should cause he understands the batman character better than any other directer. but if he doesnt i think quentin tarantino could make a proper batman since he briefly worked with frank miller
I can’t believe I’m about to say this. I actually think I would prefer Micheal Mann do it over Tarantino. My god that may be the worst choice ever.
I agree with Daniel 100%. I was drinking a soda while reading this and I almost choked…
Quentin Tarantino is the most overrated director of all time. His movies are HORRIBLE. The ONLY good movies he did were Reservoir Dogs and Pulp Fiction. All those Kill Bill idiot movies and whatever else he did are just horribly horrible. Or terribly terrible, pick one.
And no, those Chinese movies he plugges his name into he had NOTHING to do with them, he simply helped in importing them to the USA, they were made and released in Asia LONG before he was ever involved…
Seriously no one would be up for Michael Mann directing a Batman movie? Yes Miami Vice wasn’t great (Coming from the only guy in the world who liked it.) but look at the dude’s resume! The Insider, Collateral, Ali, Manhunter, Thief, Heat (Which Nolan himself admitted had a major influence on the new Batman series.) Plus the upcoming Public Enemies (Which co-stars Batman) Like don’t get me wrong, in my mind I can’t imagine anyone but Nolan coming back, but come on there is are worse things in the world then Mann directing Batman (Now if Michael Bay made a trip to Gotham city then I would be worried.)
Is that resume suppose to make people want him on the films? The guy has about 2 maybe 3 decent films and I mean decent not truly great. His style is very contrast to what has been established in BB and TDK. I think there are only maybe 4 or 5 choices worse than Mann. I mean had you said Micheal Bay I would think that you were either kiding or Bay him self because those are the only ways anyone could suggest that name.
Now, I may be over reaching this, but in terms of Warner Bros. being forced to go it trilogy style without Nolan, if they really wanted to keep with the look he created in Begins as well as the mood in TDK, then they’d need to find a director who is as close to an expert in bringing to the screen the frightening reality of where Gotham is without Dent and with the sound of “Haunt him, He’s a murder not a hero” coming from the final choices made at the end of Knight, meaning something beyond twisted and still real…replacing the Joker since recasting sould = death, would mean looking at some seriously messed villians (Riddler is to comic book, Mad Hatter is too soon, Two-Face is DEAD!) they need one of two things: To find a villian that is capable of being “real” or frikin creating a new villian (Which is dangerous)….DIRECTOR is important as much as story, if Nolan chooses to bail on Bale, lol, then there are few that could keep the tone there…SEE the film Taxi Driver, the DeNiro transformation in it, as well as his in Cape Fear (I’m not saying cast DeNiro, unless your recasting Alfred cause he’s like 70 now, I’m talking director)then Pay ANYTHING to get Scorsese or Fincher or someone who is an expert in that kind of gritty filmmaking and realisim….or DON’T DO BATMAN 3! I think when Gothem goes from “Gothem’s proud of an ordinary man standing up for what’s right…we appointed the Batman, all of us who stood by and scum take control of our city.” …TO…”You’ll hunt me, you’ll condem me. set the dog on me…people deserve more…BLAH BLAH BLAH…KILL THE BATMAN! HE’S A KILLER! HANG HIM UP BY HIS CAPE!” ….then really, how long is his “killer” run gonna last? As long as what? The time PEter PArker took to say? “I’m SPider Man no more”…CUT TO 20 MINUTES LATER…swinging away of his webs to a girl…Who is gonna make the harsh world Nolan left up in question in Gothem to make them go…”Hey we need that guy? We screwed up? This guy is blowing up schools, killing people in the streets at random, the cops can’t catch this guy, the last freak who did this, Batman strung up and left him laughing, he murdered our DA and then split…BUT WE NEED HIM!” Who is that villianous? SATAN…who can continue if Nolan says “No”, who? They should not do it unless they know, KNOW, that it can work…am I wrong?
I don’t know, I have always said that I think Nolan really kind of shot himself in the foot in terms of a sequel with the overly melodramatic way he ended TDK. I felt that entire last 20 minutes of the movie was unnecessary, and the constant narrative of “poor batman, he is so heroic, boofreakinhoo” crap was really annoying in my opinion. Combined with them killing off one of Batman’s primary villains in the same film he was introduced was a pretty dumb move too, but that’s part of the last 20 minutes, so my original statement would have taken care of that as well…
I did the idea of saying Two-Face isn’t dead, but I mean, if he’s alive, how would they pull it off? I’d hate to think he (Nolan) mortally wounded himself in that last 20, even 30 minutes, by even bring Two-Face in that late in tha film. I loved the fact that somehow, Dent after becoming Two-Face, was more dangerous then the Joker, I mean they really had something with him total 180ing it from, good natured to…”That’s funny, I’m not sure what going to happen to you either.” The mere concept of that coin ruling him to the point that he really, no pun intended…Double the chaos the Joker enstilled into him…by leaving it ALL to chance, to me that idea could have filled an intense 3rd film, but he effed up by bring dent in and then turning him into the villian in one film, relied that Heath would return, thus leaving him hanging there, saying how they would go at if forever…Maybe your’e right Ken J, maybe Norlan built one hell of a franchise then flipped a coin medaphoriclly, an it landed on the burnt your trilogy to hell side…but maybe he did it to ensure they couldn’t come back, its scary, but if I couldn’t kill a character in my story, I’d set a chain of event up in which even I’d say “I can’t continue…I’ve written myself into a corner, let someone else try to fix this.”
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