What I liked about the video game is the shield. On hand to hand combat, you use the shield?
Yeah, absolutely, shield use and acrobatics too. I mean, he’s flipping off things and spinning and jumping and just using his environment. And it’s not just punch, punch, kick, kick, you know what I mean? That’s fine, but this has to be more than ‘Bourne Supremacy.’
How much of a challenge for you was to master that move?
It was a bit of a chore, but it was fun. I was excited. They put me in gymnastic classes, and we were doing combat stuff every day for a few months. And it’s a lot of fun because when you get the dance down – all it is, is just a dance really, the choreography – when you get the dance down, you start working on the acting. Because you can’t telegraph a block or a punch. You have to show if you’ve been hurt. When it gets down fast, when it’s sharp. It’s neat. It just feels so good. It feels great. It feels like dancing, and it just looks so good, these guys. We have such good stunt coordinators and choreographers. The Russos really have a handle on how they want to shoot this. Sometimes you watch the stunt guys do a little playback like in the stunt warehouse. And it looks okay. And then the Russo’s get in there with these great angles and a lot of great camera movement, and some of the films they even reference in those first meetings of how they wanted fight sequences to look were spot on. And the footage that I’ve seen is awesome. You went to Comic-Con? I just saw the Comic-Con footage. It’s so good. I was like, oh, thank God.
Can you talk about Steve and Sam and what they make of each other when they first meet?
Sure. Steve and Sam, I don’t know if they have too much stuff. Sam is mostly an outsider that I meet in this movie and certain things happen that require me to turn to some outsiders, some people that may not be on my inner circle. Oh, wait. You mean Sam Jackson. I’m Steve. Sorry. I picked Sam Wilson and Sam Jackson, and I put them together. Right. They had plenty of interaction. Well, Sam, he works at the VA now. He’s like a therapist, essentially for people who have come back from overseas and who are struggling. And in that regard, Sam and I connect. I’m going to say Mackie, because there’s too many Sam’s. My stunt guy’s name is Sam too. So Mackie’s character and mine, we kind of have an understanding because it’s not like Cap has that many friends. His life is his work, and Natasha kind of gives him a hard time about that too, about getting and dating. Finding a social life. Finding yourself outside of your work. And so Mackie kind of extends an olive branch and kind of tries to just be a friend. And then later on when things happen, that friendship proves to be of value.
The writers were talking about how Black Widow brings out these vulnerabilities in your character. What was it like to have that interplay with Scarlett? What did it bring out in Captain America that we haven’t seen before?
Well, again, I like being human. I like laughing, telling a joke. I never got any jokes in ‘Avengers.’ And if it is a joke, it’s at his expense. He’s not zinging people which is fine, but I really loved that aspect of Johnny Storm. I got to tell jokes. I got to be the funny one, and I don’t get any now. And there’s so many funny people in these movies. So it’s nice with Scarlett, some of the dialogue, it just feels like the way people speak. It’s so nice because it’s human, and there’s a lot of that in this movie. My favorite scenes are the scenes with Scarlett. The Russo’s could be blowing smoke, but it sounds like they agree. It’s nice. It’s nice moments. Her and I both have – our characters both have issues in this movie. It’s just such an odd pairing. We’re such different people. Her moral compass is for sale, and Steve is a boy scout. So it’s interesting what they find in each other, and outside of the movie, Scarlett and I have known each other for a long time. We just constantly make jokes about how many movies we’ve made together. So it’s very effortless. We get along very well, and I think that shows on screen.
Off screen, you just mentioned Captain America is the ultimate boy scout. Do you feel a responsibility to be – you can’t go to the strip clubs or anything?
[Laughs] You just can’t get caught. No, absolutely, absolutely. I mean, anytime – it’s a strange thing to funnel through your brain – anytime you make a decision, you’re like, this really – it’s so interesting. You meet little kids, and that resonates. That’s when that hits home. It’s easy to think it and assume it, but once you meet a kid, you’re like, ‘Man. This kid really like looks up to me. What a strange thing? He doesn’t even know me,’ but that’s so funny. I remember feeling that way when I was a kid about certain things, and that’s a beautiful thing. Not to sound cheesy, but that’s really cool. And so you do want to – you owe that to them. That’s part of the responsibility of this job, and that’s a tricky thing that I was questioning about – it’s interesting the parallel of Steve’s character and just me in life. The parallels of what you owe. What do you, as an actor, where’s the line? What do I owe people? I chose to be in a profession that compromises anonymity, but does that mean, you have to know where I like go on vacation or what my dog’s name is? Where is that line? I categorize the way kids view you as something you owe, and it’s your responsibility. If you make stupid mistakes in your life. Then it tarnishes their image of you, that’s on you. You’re not free to just go be a jackass any more. Because I was before.
How does the Winter Soldier affect Steve and his past coming back on him like that?
Now, it’s going to get tricky. I don’t know how to answer these. Well, the stakes are high. This was one of Steve’s biggest sources of guilt, the fact that out of his whole crew of howling commandos were these guys that he convinced to come into battle with him. It’s the one guy that didn’t make it back, and that was the one guy that was always there for him. And then to find out that he did make it and was subject to some of the things he was subject to, that’s a lot. That’s a lot for Steve to process, and he takes full responsibility for it because he wouldn’t do it any other way. So it’s a lot. I don’t think that – that was a very political answer. That was good. I didn’t give anything away, right?
Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014, The Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on July 17, 2015, and unannounced films for May 6 2016, July 8 2016 and May 5 2017.
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