Completely CGI Thing Confirmed for Fantastic Four Reboot

Published 4 years ago by , Updated August 11th, 2013 at 3:52 am,

the thing suits Completely CGI Thing Confirmed for Fantastic Four Reboot

Both Fantastic Four movies had a multitude of issues – direction, story, most of the special FX, lighting, blah, blah, blah – but the one thing (pun intended) I enjoyed the most was Michael Chiklis’ performance as The Thing. It was too bad that he was covered in orange foam and makeup for most of both movies because he is, in my opinion, a fantastic actor.

Personal issues with the films aside, the biggest problem came in the form of the suit Chiklis wore to play The Thing. The suit in and of itself was actually a very good special FX job and it made for a great practical effect. That problem is that it stood out when compared to the other three CG-heavy super powers on screen.

Since there was no practical way to show a man stretching, a man on fire flying and a woman turning invisible those FX had to be done with CG. I can appreciate 20th Century Fox’s desire to make a practical effect but in this case I whole heartedly believe it was the wrong decision to make.

It would seem that the suits in charge of 20th Century Fox have heard the fans’ complaints because I have it from a source inside the Fox SFX department working on the Fantastic Four Reboot (officially titled Fantastic Four Reborn) that The Thing will officially be 100% CG.

This is excellent news because with all the advancements in CG technology, a properly done CG Thing will look absolutely fantastic! One of the major complaints about the 2nd Thing suit was the size ( I say 2nd because Roger Corman made the 1st suit in the 90s); Thing is supposed to be a big, hulking, rock monster type creature who is able to lift hundreds, if not thousands, of tons and dwarf everyone on his team in size. This just can’t be pulled off in a practical suit.

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A few great examples of what a properly done, oversized person/beast/superhero done in CG look like would be Mr. Hyde from Van Helsing, Hulk from Ang Lee’s 2003 movie as well as the newer Hulk and Abomination from The Incredible Hulk. Now before you start bashing me that most of those films sucked, with the exception of The Incredible Hulk, they all represent what a properly done 100% CG large character can look like.

Another thing my source noted was that work on Fantastic Four Reborn has been put on the back burner until X-Men: First Class is in the can and shooting for that film doesn’t begin until September 21st, 2010. So it could be awhile before we see any images or graphics related to the Fantastic Four Reborn film.

On a personal side note – my proudest moment of Comic Con this year came when Michael Chiklis asked for me to take his picture with one of our Minimalist Superhero Posters that we were handing out at the Con.

What are your thoughts on a completely CG Thing clobberin’ up the screen?

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  1. Why are they doing this movie?????????

  2. Michael Chiklis needs to pull a Chris Evan’s and come home to Marvel.

    • I think that should be an official thing. –*insert name here* just pulled a “Chris-Evans.”–

      LOVE IT. X-)

  3. I think its great…..the thing looks soooo fake in the recent fantastic fours,cg would work better….

  4. all right about time (loved Michael Chiklis) but i agree 110% cg all the way

    till next time

  5. “Thing is supposed to be a big, hulking, rock monster type creature who is able to lift hundreds, if not thousands, of tons and dwarf everyone on his team in size. ”

    No…. He is in the sub 100 ton category. I would say closer to the 75 ton area.

    And sometimes he is not really THAT big. He can wear big and tall clothes and not need the specially made.

    Bens “niche” is while he is strong he has the heart and soul of a lion so to speak while being at times gentle as a kitten. The only reason he is a “monster” is due to his looks. Other then that he is anything BUT a monster/creature.

    So please lets not have him look like or act like the Hulk.

    • You misunderstood me or I didn’t explain myself very well…either way I don’t mean he acts like the hulk. I used the word hulking to describe his size. The Thing is significantly bigger, taller and heavier than all of his teammates.

      • I understood you I was going with the “rock monster creature able to lift etc.”

        The Hulk is a misunderstood monster/creature moreso then Ben. Ben is a top knotch pilot, college graduate and collegiate football player.

        He only “looks” bad. :D

        • Oh I gotcha! I meant that to describe his physical look only…not his personality or mental abilities. :)

          • While I’m all for a CGI Thing, because they then can make him as broad as he is in the comics and taller than Chiklis, who is 5’9″, Mister Fantastic is actually taller than Ben. The Thing is 6′ even while Reed is 6’1″.

            • Well, i think that’s because Mr. Fantastic stretched himself taller.

    • Class 85 meaning he can lift (press) 85 tons under normal conditions.

      Official Handbook of the Marvel Universe.

      That said, he was much weaker at the start of his career.

      Although he’s only six foot tall, Ben Grimm should look as though he can wrestle with the Hulk, because he can and he has.

  6. So does this mean Michael Chiklis is going to be the Thing In the reboot? I hope he is!!!!!

  7. Since I doubt Chiklis will come back for the reboot, I think Bruce Willis would make a good replacement. No idea ho could replace Glufford and Alba (Not a hard thing to replace Alba), but Ryan Kwanten I think would be a pretty good choice.

    • to play as the Human Torch. Sorry didnt finish it all the way

  8. Yeah I have to agree. The Thing as well as the Hulk should never be confused with a large,large man. It should be more like “there is no possible way they could be a man”. The Thing, by size alone, should not get mixed up with possibly being human; even a very tall and big person.

  9. “but the one thing I enjoyed the most was Michael Chiklis’ performance as The Thing” — yup, me too. Chiklis is one of those actors who play great characters in great tv series but, for some reason, can’t pick a good movie project (another one would be Michael C Hall)

  10. I think he should look like he did in the Ultimate Alliance games. I think everyone, especially Galactus, should look like they did in the Ultimate Alliance games.

  11. My questions:

    1.) Will it tie into the new Marvel Universe they’ve established with Iron Man and Thor and Cap and such?

    2.) If they do that, will Captain America and the new guy who’s playing the Human Torch have ANY interaction? Because that would be HILARIOUS.

    • 1. No

      2. Since 1 is no 2 is invalid.

      • I agree w/MisterBert…it would be really hilarious if they were passing in the hallway at SHIELD HQ, stopped, turned around and looked at each other with a “Do I know you from somewhere?” look on their face…then went back on their merry way, shaking their heads in a “Nahhh, couldn’t be!” headshake.

    • 1) It’s possible. There will be a glimpse of the Infinity Gauntlet in Thor so if they are bringing in Thanos as the wearer it will take more than the Avengers to battle him. In the Mini-series it took half the Earths’ heroes (since the other half was dead) to do it.

      • No it’s NOT possible. FF4 is owned by Fox and the other is Marvel. The 2 won’t ever cross over unless FOX relinquishes it’s rights to FF4.

  12. I’m sorry folks, Screenrant, Fox, Marvel. etc.
    There was nothing wrong with the prosthetics suit. We all agree Michael Chikilis was great as Ben Grimm. If that’s the case then Chikilis helped sell it. You can’t have it both ways. Either it worked or it didn’t. The past two films had other problems- Chikilis as The Thing wasn’t one of them.
    A full CGI Thing does have one advantage- The famous Eyebrows. But that’s about it.

    I see this as trying to fix something that isn’t broken. Also, you can *make* a good case as to a CG Thing as you do here- but that was one of the biggest struggles of the prep of the first film, wasn’t it-? Having four different characters with different FX around them and where to find the balance. The Thing is The Thing all the time. The Hulk and Incredible Hulk were not “the Hulk” all the time, and the Hulk was the main hero.
    The Abomination appeared in the latter half of the previous Hulk film.
    We are talking about a character who does does revert back to human form for a majority of a movie.

    Oh, and by the way, Van Helsings CGI FX SUCKED PICKLE JUICE.
    Mr. Hyde of course, was only in Van Helsing for five minutes? You didn’t confuse it with LXG, did you?

    I’m sure casting of the new FF will be fine. I’m sure the director will be fine. Couldn’t be any worse.

    Give me my Silver Surfer movie instead.
    Or Daredevil : Born Again.

    Again, apologies on my rant. Had to get it out of my system.

    • No I didn’t confuse the two.I purposely left Hyde from LXG out because most of that was prosthetic and forced perspective. There was very little CG done to make him work in that movie.

      I disagree though, I love practical FX and prefer them to CG but in this case I lean the other direction. Thing looked neither powerful nor strong and solid in either of the FF films. This is not a slight on Chiklis because I’m pretty sure I stated I like him as an actor.

      Hyde in Van Helsing looked great and even though he was only on the screen for a short time, for me he was the highlight of the visual SFX in that movie.

  13. I love Chikliss as well. The Shield is my all time fave show and the performances he puts in are amazing.

  14. Fox owns Fantastic Four, so there will be no tie in with The Avengers, who are owned by Marvel Studios, the Disnt deal hasn’t come into affect yet.

  15. @Pual, I get what you’re saying :) Is Chiklis returning for the role? I want him too!

  16. Its about time. Its real Clobbering time!

  17. Ugh Marvel… just ugh.

    Reboot reboot reboot. If you reboot anymore you’re gonna crash your system. OH wait, you already have. (X-Men Origins: Wolverine, Punisher: War Zone, and recasting the Hulk!)

  18. I always thought that Mr. Hyde from The League of Extrordanary Gentlemen was better.

    If they go CIG then I guess its really gonna be clobberin time!

  19. For everyone clueless:
    Fox owns Fantastic Four, X-Men, NOT Marvel!!!
    Marvel Studios owns The Avengers: Iron Man, Hulk, Thor, Captain America, Hawkeye, Nick Fury, Namor, Black Panther and the Cosmic characters like Thanos, Blackbolt, and Nova.
    Stop blaming Marvel for Fox’s screw ups!!!!!!!

    • THANK YOU!!!

      Let’s not forget to add Sony for Spidey and all the affiliated characters like Doc Ock, Venom, etc.

  20. “they all represent what a properly done 100% CG large character can look like.”

    I’m sorry but as much as I like The Incredible Hulk, it’s obvious that the CG jobs in all the movies you mentioned were far from awe-inspiring. Mr.Hyde was very cartoon-like, Ang Lee’s Hulk was ‘okay’ at most and while The Incredible Hulk was pretty decent and very believable in many scenes, he still showed obvious CG giveaways in a lot of sequences. I thoroughly enjoyed that movie, but if The Thing is going to look realistic, it needs to be much, much better than all those movies you just mentioned.

  21. Sorry, but you need to check your comic book history.

    The REAL Thing, the JACK KIRBY Thing was always SHORTER than Reed Richards. It’s only been in the last few years that they have started drawing him at such ridiculous heights.

    He is not suppose to dwarf his team mates. The Chicky Thing WAS the correct size. Now, I think that look can be improved with some digital help – making the mouth wider like the comic, maybe moving the nose up to where it should be – but with the exception of the Torch, the Thing was the best realized character in the two Fox FF movies.

  22. If you have to have the Thing taller, then something like “Wink” in HELLBOY 2 would work just fine, and that was ALL practical, too.

  23. The Effects in AVATAR was not a result of “new technology” as much as it was the result of spending $400 million on the movie. If Fox continues to low ball the FF like they did the first two, then an all CGI Thing is going to look like crap. I would much rather have a version of what we got in the first two movies than something like those cartoon vampires in I AM LEGEND.

  24. I’d love to see this happen. The Fantasic 4 has potential still for a good picture despite the past two. The Incredible Hulk is my favorite MARVEL movie to-date because I love Ed Norton and even more so the new true-to-the-book-look of the Hulk. The Ang Lee Hulk was modeled after an actual persons body then just juiced up with CGI and Bana’s face. The new one was obviously modeled more towards the books, with exaggerated proportions and the overall size of him.

    This is exactly what The Thing needs. Since those two went toe to toe in the books, Thing needs a makeover for film so we could actually picture this happening.

  25. I agree The Incredible Hulk is my favorite movie so far, maybe they should get Louis Leterrier to direct FF: Reborn lol. I hope that Marvel will be able to reacquire the rights to FF in the future, it’d be cool to see them in The Avengers universe…sigh… I guess we’ll have to deal with Fox for now :(

  26. Who cares? I don’t want to see another standalone FF movie. I’m sorry Fox blew it on this one. Please oh please just let the film rights expire and get FF back in the fold with Marvel Studios. It’s bad enough Spider-Man and X-Men are in separate universes but Dr. Doom, Silver Surfer and Galactus NEED to be back where they belong! Surely you can work this out fellas. Fox maintains distribution rights like Universal did with the Hulk – whatever. Make it happen. Maybe we can start a petition…

  27. Marvel or DC .. who has better characters?

    • Marvel has Captain America

      DC has Batman

      I declare a draw.

  28. I bet after Fox fux up this movie too, the rights will revert back to Marvel somehow. I think Disney will push for it. Fox has had too many chances already and have already gotten their money back + some.

  29. Yeah, definitely CGI his ass up. the Thing is supposed to be BIG, make his ass like 7 ft 5′. That’s what I wanna see.

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