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Creative Buzz says:

Yes Old Dude, we are on the very same page. No human can pull off a Thor without CGA. CGA is the big reason Marvel movies have kept the integrity of the comic books. You mention great examples as to CGA for the heros… I’d like to add one more. Ron Perlman as Hellboy.

MikeX: My thought for Paul Walker is to play Dr. Donald Blake. Just as Ed Norton did for Hulk, and RDJ for Ironman, you must first build the Character from the alter ego perspective, not the hero’s perspective. Paul Walker is at the Perfect age (34). He’s tall, He’s an A-list actor, plus he’s got the blonde thing going, but hair color is irrelevant.

All the wrestling geeks think HHH is going to be a shoe in because he looks like Thor, and the point I’m trying to make is… Marvel won’t cast that way. If they did, they’d just be remaking the Hulk TV series with Lou Ferrigno.

Still, Captain America baffles me. This actor is going to have to assume a leadership role for the Avengers. A nobody actor trying to lead RDJ, Ed Norton and others is not going to work. You need a big time A lister. I thought of Brenden Frasier, and I like him, but he’s got the who Mummy adventure thing going. I don’t know if I can look past that character. My favorite would be Clive Owen, but he already did the Sin City thing.

Has anyone heard if Ben Affleck would make an appearance as DD? That would be really cool… even a small cameo to assist in one small fight scene.

greenknight333 says:

I thought Affleck said a few years ago he was done with action movies but the way his career has gone lately I’d be willing to bet he’d rethink the DD role if another offer came to the table. However, I thought DD rights were at Fox Studio’s and unless that changes there can be no DD or Matt Murdock in an Avengers Movie…

greenknight333 says:

I wouldn’t call Paul Walker an A-List actor and although he looks like he could pull off the STeve Rogers look I really don’t think he has the acting chops…

Doom3524 says:

I still think Cap should be Matt Damon. He is a big A-List actor who can lead an ensemble of other top line actors and he is a great action guy (Bourne).

I don’t agree with making Thor CGA for the fact that he still looks like a person as Thor. All those guys mentioned above (Hellboy, Thing, Jekyll) were all creatures basically. Juggernaut just had some dumb looking armor on so I wouldnt say that is CGA. I think going CGA with him would be a mistake. He isnt all that much taller than the rest of the guys in the Avengers (at least not when good artists were drawing him) so there really seems to be no point.

I still ike HHH, and I am not a wrestling geek, I just think that everyone is so fast to say “no, he is a wrestler, he is too stupid to do it” and wont even consider the possibility. You have 2 guys in there, one for blake, one for Thor. Unfortunatley thats how the character is, 2 distinctly different people.

On the other hand, what if they go with the Ultimate version of Thor. I didnt read a lot with him in it, but isn’t he always just Thor? That would save a lot of CGI costs and money for 2 actors. Just a thought since they went with Ultimate Fury.

Panda says:

Creative Buzz –
“A nobody actor trying to lead RDJ, Ed Norton and others is not going to work. You need a big time A lister.”

I totally disagree. It doesn’t matter if the actor is an A-lister, it’s their screen presence, which can be found in an unknown. I will agree that whoever plays Cap needs as big a presence as RDJ, Norton and the like, will agree. IMO, neither Pitt nor Leo fit the bill.

Creative Buzz says:

Panda, I completely grasp the concept of “screen presence”. I don’t deny they could go with a virtual unknown. However, he’d need some sort of credentials, because whether you agree or not… RDJ and Ed Norton WILL care who leads them. These guys have egos (it’s not a bad thing), and to be a elite actor you need an ego. I can’t see either of them playing second fiddle to HHH or the likes of him. I also believe Pitt or Leo could pull it off… and pull it off very well. I still prefer Marc Wahlberg for Captain America. But others I mentioned might make interesting selections as well. Josh Hartnett, Clive Owen, Wentworth Miller (from Prison Break), Patrick Dempsey or Jude Law. Not the elite actors, but good credentials never the less. I’m sorry, but for a movie of this caliber.. it has to be a name or a face people are familiar with. Anything else would be disappointing.

790 says:

Wentworth Miller would be great. He even looks like a Army recruit with that Prison Break buzz cut.

Let’s just call his agent and get this over with!

WAR-MACHINE says:

I say nether shall be accepted unless thy can weild the mighty mjolnir.
if the Hammer give’in from
the Mighty Odin. deems them worthy !
………….
‘oh and steven colbert For CAP.AMERICA’.
LOL

the old man says:

It’s really hard to say where CGA will be in a couple of years Doom3524. You no doubt saw what they did in “Speed Racer.” That was stylized environments to look in a particular way too. That was the major reason that it seemed unreal. You tone those effects down in certain ways put an actor or two in to provide key elements like the Silver Surfer was done, voice, the buff body, and you got yourself a believable Thor. What they could cast for is someone that has or can project the kind of personality that the other actors would play against and off of in the live action shooting phase.

I just read today that a fundamental theoretical circuit element a “memistor” has been proved manufacturable. This would be an individual memory component. Currently individual components transistors, resistors, and capacitors are built up into memory circuits or you use a magnetic media. Now that an individual component can replace a group of components That count can be reduced further increasing computing power even greater than it was before! It also lacks the disadvantage of the older memories in that it can retain values without power or magnetic media’s size, speed, cost and other physical disadvantages.

In a very short time you may not know who’s doing what on screen. You’ll know when something is CG but how granular it will be will only get harder to tell.

790 says:

Old Man, I think were allready at that point in CGI/VFX.
Have you seen HellBoy 2 yet ? Amazing vfx.

Btw, Speed Racer was based on a Manga cartoon, not reality.
Anyone that didn’t get that can eat a bowl of Cool Beans !! ;-)

the old man says:

Alright WAR-MACHINE: Odin said you can cross the rainbow bridge from Asgard and come back to earth now… If F-150’s can eat Tundra’s and excrete Kit, which is currently scientifically impossible; Then some soul somewhere can hand Thor his hammer if no other way then under the watchful eye of Odin.

the old man says:

Yes 790 I agree, most understand those points. However 2 years ago, prior to its release, if you would have told me no cars would be used in the actual filming and then showed me a quick scene from the movie, I would have never believed you. In at least one scene you got to admit it would be tough to tell that a car wasn’t used. I haven’t seen “Hellboy Golden Army” but I have no doubts, “you ain’t seen nothin yet.” Moore’s Law baby.

WAR-MACHINE says:

True,but I have to say speed racer sucked. liked old show.
But the live action film was NEON-dierea.now I’m not hateing on the wakoski bros but really?!?!

And that dude from Eurika should portray CAP. Cus the resemblance is uncanny.

the old man says:

Ok, I’ll back away from “Speed Racer” to support my position. Instead check this out:
http://imsc.usc.edu/press/pdfs/04_09_15_mit.pdf
It’s only gonna get better. Just surfing around its amazing the software that’s come out just this spring that the movie industry will soon use to save time and money. That means more for everything else. Hopefully more to garner the best script writers!

Risa says:

I know I’m a month late but I felt a dire need to say this. If you want Captain America to stick his tongue out in every 5 seconds, then yes, Brad Pitt is your guy. If you want someone to actually bring something unique to the character then Dicaprio is your guy being one of the greatest actors of this generation alongside Norton and Bale.

If you want an A-lister then Matt Damon fits the bill perfectly to be Captain America. My other personal favourite would be relatively unknown David Boreanaz who has the 50’s swagger about him which I think is an essential quality. I can actually see Pitt as Thor as long as he keeps his mouth shut and doesn’t try to act. His Achilles in that pointless mess Troy did look similar to Thor.

I’ll be satisfied if they can cast actors who would hold their own effortlessly alongside Norton and Downey Jr. no matter who they are.

CHRIS says:

THOMAS JANE SHOULD PLAY CAPTAIN AMERICA AND THE VILLIAN SHOULD BE THE RED SKULL.

Jordan says:

Thomas Jane would be a great Cap, but I don’t see it happening. Basically you can come up with as many potential choices as you want for cap, but Leo is 90% to get it so get used to the idea. Marvel movies getting good again didn’t happen by accident. Stan Lee is and marvel are playing a much larger role in the making of this movies. Getting someone who looks the part isn’t near as important as the acting. Everybody loved RDJ now but, he is pretty short compared to the the comic book Tony Stark but give him a goatee and a drink in his hand and he’ll sell you cause he’s a great actor. Stan Lee wants Leo and Leo would be an idiot so pass up the part, so I’d say it has a pretty good chance of happening.

Jordan says:

P.S.

Whoever mentioned John Cena should have a black bag put over his head and be swept into the night, never to be heard from again, V for Vendetta style.

Creative Buzz says:

Thank You Jordan!!! What prompted my first posts here was the stupid talk of HHH for Thor, and John Cena for Cap. NO WAY do they cast a wrestling wanna-bee for any Marvel roles in the future. A-Lister only need apply.
Chris, Thomas Jane has no prayer to pay Cap. He already did the Punisher. Did it well too. But It’s going to be an A-Lister. Could be Leo, but I still like Mark Wahlberg

Jordan says:

Mark Wahlberg is a good actor, I’ll give him that. But I don’t think he could do Cap. I think Leo Could do it because he can be made to look like Cap and he is a great character actor. Wahlberg could pull off the buff look easy, but the wavey blond hair, probably not, and I just can’t imagine his voice coming out out of captain america. For the most part Wahlberg is one of those actors who doesn’t change much from role to role, just maybe the tone of his voice.

Roberts the man says:

Daniel Craig or Aaron Eckhart..I think Aaron Eckhart should be Captain America

790 says:

IMO, when you take a well known actor like James (Daniel Craig) Bond, or a Arron (2Face) Eckhart,,, and stick them in another superhero film or spy film, it cheapens the film, and cause’s a distraction.

Unfortunitly Eckharts WAY to old to do the character justice, and Craig, nah.

Steve Rogers, is a young skinny PFC that signs on to highly advanced Super Soilder program,,, this film allmost needs two actors for this role,
One the pre Captain, and one the Full Buffed out Cap America. :-)
I would reccomend a new comer.

Yeah, let’s cast a Brit as Captain America… that’ll go over GREAT.

Vic

Creative Buzz says:

Jordan, I’d take Marc Walhberg over Leo, but either would be a good choice. I have two things against Leo… #1, he still sounds like a 12 year old boy struggling with puberty, #2, have you seen him lately? He’s a fat pig. He’d needs to drop 30 pounds of fat and gain 20 lbs. of muscle to play Cap. Then he’d be a nice choice.

790: No way they cast a newcomer as CAP. He’s the leader of the Avengers, and he needs to LEAD in acting as well. Otherwise, he takes a back seat to RDJ and Ed Norton. Marvel has set the bar high with great leading men… they will continue with CAP and Thor.

Doom3524 says:

I still think Matt Damon would be the best choice for Cap. He is an A-Lister who has been an action guy in the past as well as leading a cast of guys more seasoned than he is, and has the face I could see as Cap. Leo still looks too young and Wahlberg doesnt have the look (in my opinion). I agree look isnt everything, but when you have 3 guys who could all pull it off, then you should go for the one who looks the part, and I think Damon could do it better than the others.

david says:

LEO IS NOT SHORT! Google a pic of him and Gisele.
Leo DiCaprio is 6 feet tall. He’s taller than his ex-girlfriend Gisele Bundchen who is probably taller than Brad Pitt at 5 feet 11.

But yeah, he’s not right for the part. I’m thinking Henry Cavill.

david says:

Matthew McConaughay -No no no no NO!!!!!!!

You guys do realize that he’s a B-list star. Either get an A-lister on the level of Brad Pitt or cast an up-and-comer or unknown.

Robbie says:

I think the wwe wrestler HHH should play thor. I Mean his best friend is a sledge hammer. and he’s got the size.

Mike says:

What about Channing Tatum for Captain America? He’s younger, but would fit the look of the role perfectly. Otherwise, I like the suggestions of Hartnett, Wahlberg, or Walker.

Stuart says:

Hey folks I posted this in another forum, but what do people think of eric Dane for captain america? He’s a good actor somewhat dramatic, he’s got the right build I think, and the strong jaw and he’s still mid thirties?

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