How Will ‘Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.’ Tie Into ‘Captain America 2′?

Published 8 months ago by , Updated November 5th, 2013 at 11:47 am,

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Timelines aside, there’s also the obvious importance of the Captain America character to Phil Coulson (Clark Gregg) and the eventual return of Coulson in the movies. After all, The Avengers - according to Gregg – were deceived, and eventually Earth’s Mightiest will have to come to terms with the reality that Coulson is still alive and active. Perhaps Captain America 2 is when Coulson’s return from the death will be explained?

As for the reasoning why S.H.I.E.L.D. was nowhere to be found in Iron Man 3 and Thor: The Dark World, Marvel Studios President of Production Kevin Fiege hinted to us at the Thor 2 junket that their absence could be explained before Captain America 2, and we all previously heard that it would be explained in future films (likely Cap 2 and The Avengers 2):

Taking this up another level, we know the big bad of The Avengers 2 is Ultron, and he’s explained by Feige to be a threat the heroes see coming, it’s also possible that Ultron has something to do with what’s occurring in SHIELD.

“I don’t think it’s going to be about saving the universe every time. We’ve said that. It’s not about saving planet earth every time. It might be many times, but the threat that Ultron brings is certainly worthy of all the Avengers needing to come together and also the timing does play a large part of that. When you see a threat coming you have more time to assemble. There’s not a whole lot more I can say on that.”

Tell us your theories!

Cap’s next adventure is being directed by Anthony Russo and Joe Russo off a screenplay by Christopher Markus and Stephen McFeely and will release in 3D. Robert Redford joins Chris Evans, Sebastian Stan, Emily VanCamp, Samuel L. Jackson,  Cobie Smulders, Scarlett Johansson, Toby JonesAnthony Mackie, Frank Grillo, Hayley Atwell, Maximiliano Hernandez and Georges St-Pierre.

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Iron Man 3 is now available on home video. Thor: The Dark World releases on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014The Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on July 31, 2015, and unannounced films for May 6 2016, July 8 2016 and May 5 2017.

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Sources: Clark Gregg, Comicbook.com, /Film

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  1. “How Will ‘Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.’ Tie Into ‘Captain America 2′?”

    Badly would be my guess.

    • +1 HAHAHAHAHA

  2. This show is getting ahead of itself.

    Secondly, how much time do I have to see the movie in theatres lol? Sometimes I wait a month after release before catching the bigger movies, i.e. Thor: TDW. Is the show going to spoil the movies?

    Again, getting way to far ahead of themselves for the quality of show that’s being put out right now. We’ll see what tomorrow night brings.

  3. Sky is the Winter Soldiers daughter.

    • Coming out of the ice every few years to assassinate and procreate?

      Can’t wait to hear Goldilocks provide us with his thoughts on that.

      Do I really want to use a Game Of Thrones line and risk lowering myself to such a cheap joke? Hmm…

      • Sky is looking for her family ,in the comics the winter soldier disappeared for a time after one of his missions,{always thought they would explain Rick Jones was his kid .} Sky is the winter soldier’s kid in the movie universe

        • Yeah, sorta guessed that’s what you meant, I was just humouring myself.

        • That may not be that far off, but Agent Woody, I mean Grant also had a breadcrumb dropped about his parents in the pilot episode. And he seems a bit more in line with being the spawn of some lab experiment, down to the robotic personality.

      • All I know is, the other night I watched AOS and Skye was running around in her bra and panties…and that melted any ice on me, I can tell you that much! If that is the “Skye”, I will have to get a job as an astronomer so I can gaze at her “Heavenly body”! I don’t even like the character that much, but….but….butt….(oops, losing concentration….).

  4. Yay, I was hoping a day would not go by that Screenrant did not say something negative about AOS. I can sleep easy tonight!

    • Not not. I’m confused.

      • More nots than a sailor’s rope in that comment, huh Rob?

        Double negative, man, only needed that second one in there.

        To be fair, SR give the show tons of free advertising by talking about it as much as they do, it’s not their fault the show is terrible.

  5. I bet it has to do with either the origins of The Winter Soldier, or the return/first appearance of Red Skull, Baron Zemo or MODOK.

    • MODOK is one of those guys who can never get “a head” in the world!

    • I don’t buy the fact that red skull is gone…modok might get introduced in one of the AOS episodes ..aim was introduced in iron man 3. Plus Winter soldier love interest was Black widow and they never had kids.

  6. an obscure off screen reference it is…

  7. Tie in between Cap and AOS? Ok, good. Thor and AOS? Also good.
    BUT:
    While I am enjoying AOS, some people apparently are not (maybe they expect too much out of it??). SO, if I were Marvel, I would do some additional launches or tie-ins, like maybe a launch of Heroes For Hire or Moon Knight, or maybe a tie-in to Black panther and Waukanda, even. If Marvel wants to save this series and get it to a third or even second season, I would advise them to pull out some mighty big stops now!

    • Totally agree.

      Me, I’m a big comic book fan that had zero expectations about this show (because I’ve learned that sometimes, shows aren’t as good as they’re hyped to be) and it’s lost me after episode 5.

      My younger brother isn’t much of a comic book fan, hasn’t enjoyed many of the Marvel movies (his faves are Thor, Iron Man and The Incredible Hulk) and hasn’t enjoyed a DC related movie since Constantine in 2005, plus he watches and likes Whedon’s other shows plus The OC, 90210, etc but even he’s losing interest in AOS too, which says something to me because he seems to enjoy a lot of teen based dramas and shows that have never appealed to me.

      • For me the show has a couple of problems

        1. TV budget vs huge multi-national, super spy agency. A TV show budget will NEVER be able to truly depict the size and power of an agency like SHIELD so that knocks the believability that a team like this would be created.

        2. The scripts and acting are average at best, none of the characters are that interesting and are standard archetypes…. no one new or original. This leads to the episodes being a bit bland, a bit dull and there’s no sense of epic consequences if a mission goes bad. They’re just beat cops in a world of super spys.

        3. You have an organisation that deals directly with super powered individuals, you have a VAST array of 2nd/3rd/4th string characters that have little or no chance of being part of the MCU so WHY aren’t they being used in the show.

        Yes they’ve set up the creation of Graviton but that’s about it….. there’s a bit of Extremis floating about (Yawn) but as Marvel can’t use the M-word looks like Extremis is the only way of getting superpowers.

        Guess they’ve forgotten about genetics (Ultimate Spidy) Cosmic Radiation (Fantastic Four), Cybernetics, a bit more than a x-ray eye, (Cyborg), Doc Strange is on the horizon so Magic etc. et all.

        How many people on SR looking at the trailer for the pilot was all excited, oooh that looks like Luke Cage, maybe they’ll do Heroes for Hire (see above) etc. then watched the episode and said “what the hell” and walked away from the show.

        The premise was how the “normal” members of SHIELD cope in a world of Supers. We aren’t SEEING any supers. And that betrayal of the original concept is what’s turning a lot of fans off.

        I mean look at all the hype surrounding Sam Jacks (awful) cameo, apparently it saved the series (but it didn’t).

        For a company that’s planning movie releases to 2017 and beyond you’re telling me they couldn’t plan a TV show to fit in with the cinematic realises, maybe borrow a bit of set time to ramp up the production values for a couple of tie episodes, a cameo or two with appropriate major heroes.

        Whether the show can/will be saved, I don’t know, the irritating thing is that the fixes seem so obvious.

        No I’m not a producer I don’t know how hard it is to produce a TV show but what I do know is that a show about a agency that deals with supers and their only team that DOESN’T isn’t going to have fan support for long and as soon as the hard core walk away then it’s dead.

  8. I hope “The Winter Soldier” doesn’t get bogged down in Republicans blaming Thor that the “Dark World” was implemented too slowly and erratically…. boring!

    • Huh???

  9. Here’s my biggest issue.

    The show started in mid September. The season finale will be in April when Cap 2 releases?

    Why does any show need to be on TV for that long? It’s one thing I’ll never understand about US TV shows. They go on for months and months and have silly mid season breaks and weeks off. I hated the fact that Arrow did the same thing last year because we get the show 5-6 days after the US so if it takes a break over there, it does the same here too.

    I’d rather they have a show up until the usual mid season break but instead of it being a mid season break, just end the season right there and when it comes back, that’s season 2.

    No wonder people get bored of shows and hop off over time if you have seasons of 20 or more episodes plus a 2 month break midway through.

    • A lot of shows here in the US coincide with what would be considered a “calendar school year.” They usually take summer off and air re-runs.

    • The television season (traditional network in particular) is dictated by advertising dollars and tend to be booked around things in the US such as holidays, sporting events, etc.

    • That’s actually why this season of Arrow started in October, so they can have nine straight weeks of new episodes before the mid season break.

    • Yeah I agree, I hated that with Arrow, and Revolution. I understand the Holiday breaks and everything but its annoying having to wait that long. They should just break it up in seperate seasons.

      • Yeah.

        Here, our networks don’t care about holidays or getting maximum advertising numbers at certain periods in the year, they just air something for maybe 8 episodes per season for 8 weeks in a row on a day/time that will get their best audience.

        Saturday evenings for example are out because we get The Voice on BBC and Britain’s Got Talent on ITV during the March-June period then Strictly Come Dancing on BBC/The X Factor on ITV in the September-Christmas period so other than Doctor Who on BBC, most networks avoid showing their big shows on that night.

        Otherwise, unless an episode is holiday based (Halloween themed episode in late October for example), they generally don’t care and air something.

        If we had mid-season breaks, we’d get bored during the break and not bother watching when it returns.

        When Arrow kept stopping and starting during season 1, some people genuinely thought the latter half of season 1 was actually season 2 because it’d been off air for 2 months.

      • What would that change? You still would have to wait in between seasons, there would just be a different number in front of the episode instead. So you don’t mind the wait if its called season 2?

  10. Hopefully the Agents of Shield show will tie into Captain America 2 with a huge explosion, one that kills the entire cast of character’s in that god awful show (except for Coulson of course).

    Then we can all get back to loving and respecting Nick Fury’s elite top secret organisation

  11. rumour has it that Vladamir Putin is gonna show up, his son is Bucky a sleeper KGB agent along the lines of Salt

  12. How Will ‘Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.’ Tie Into ‘Captain America 2

    Hopefully the team will meet the Winter Soldier – he kills them all except for Skye (who is saved by Loki and makes her the Temptress).

    Then Coulsen is properly dead and well and we can forget that Agents of Shield ever happened.

  13. If Ultron is a threat the Avengers see coming then I’m guessing the seeds will be sown in a prior film. I don’t think he’ll just suddenly appear on the radar in Avengers 2. Cap 2 seems too full on, Guardians of the Galaxy – a little detached…Ant-Man? It’s the only other release before Avengers 2.

    • Ant-Man is actually after The Avengers 2. It’s Captain America 2 (which has been officially labeled as a setup film for The Avengers sequel and Guardians of the Galaxy which by all accounts is very standalone.

      • I’m still thinking that Ultron will be a SHIELD creation gone rogue and their answer to the Extremis/Winter Soldier threats that faced the world in IM3/Cap 2.

        • Stark in “retirement” creates for SHIELD an autonomous IM suit with the IA based upon Jarvis’s architecture but then goes all SkyNet or Vikki (Humans enemy = Kill or To Protect Humans I need to rule = KILL) and “evolves” in to Ultron.

          That sort of thang……

  14. Pretty bad would be my guest.

  15. Judging from the Cap 2 trailer, it seems safe to assume that Bucky was saved from death by being turned into the cyborg Winter Soldier presumably by some arm of SHIELD – likely Robert Redford’s handiwork. The only real plausible explanation for Coulson’s resurrection is that he’s now a cyborg of some sort as well; AoS has thrown in some lines that would seem to point to that. Most overtly, at the end of episode 3, Coulson tells May “I guess I’m a little rusty” in reference to his weapon handling, and when she leaves the room, she tells him “and you are a little rusty.”

    If they really are going to wait until the season finale to reveal what happened with Coulson, then the obvious tie-together is that he and Bucky were both turned into cyborgs by SHIELD, presumably without their consent, which could bring the two of them together alongside Cap as he (so far appears to) take SHIELD down from within.

    • Using the “top SHIELD agent working with the Soviets” angle so as not to upset any Russian viewers?

      • Are they evening using the Soviet angle in the movie, yes it’s prevalent in the comic but for that too work you then have to set up Alexsander Lukin and with Redford’s character seeming in conflict with Fury as well that too many angles.

        More than likely the Soviets are dropped for internal power plays within SHIELD.
        Could also be why there was so much resistance to Fury’s Avenger Initiative during Phase 1. The higher ups (or sideways) in SHIELD already had they’re own super solider and they didn’t want a “rival” agent with his own force.

        Could even be that Redford is “possessed” by the Red Skull a’la Lukin.

        • *** even

          DOH!

          • That could be.

            I imagine they’ll use the Soviets in some way by having Redford maybe making reference to the Cold War, so that even if Bucky wasn’t a Soviet asset, he could’ve been created by SHIELD as an agent for them as a secret weapon in their war during that time period.

            Who knows, I’m just excited to see it.

  16. random thought. I have been thinking about Ultrom (or however it is spelt) is shield’s attempt to make their own version of JARVIS. Maybe adapting a back up copy of JARVIS. Making him their own AI (Explains James Spader) and giving him control of their networks. While stark is standing there telling them no, that’s a bad idea. Ultrom swipes out the shield council and takes control of shield. Kills or incapacitates most of the agents or gets control of Shield’s Phrase 2 WMDs from Avengers 1. Fury calls in the avengers to stop Ultrom from using the wmds. As I said random thought

  17. I don’t understand why Marvel has to keep changing the history of the Marvelverse. I mean its managed to get the brand through nearly 70 years of publication. Why suddenly do we need to change it now. This constant tweaking of cannon is starting to get annoying at least to me.

    • They have been changing things to suit new readers in the books for the last twenty years, so it is to be expected. The fact is when older fans start to fade away for whatever reason they have to draw in new customers, and at this point they can’t bet on people going back and learning decades worth of material when all they want is to sell product now.

      • Yep, this is why Marvel and DC have periodical universe reboots so the new readers don’t have to trawl through mountains of books to catch up.

        Starts fresh too. I mean, Marvel sorta rebooted Iron Man so that he was blown up in Afghanistan rather than Vietnam, made Yinsen Middle Eastern rather than Chinese then the movie pretty much went with that since it was more modern.

        Or the fact that they wanted to shift a new toy line so created the black Spider-Man suit in 1985.

  18. I like what Feige said…there has to be a GOOD excuse everytime the Avengers assemble.

    • That’s why I never understood people getting worried about solo movies or thinking Thor would help Stark or something. It’s pretty obvious (to me at least) that only the world/universe threatening villains that one person couldn’t handle would be the catalyst for a team up.

      Take Thor: TDW for example.

      World threatening event but Stark retired from the heroics, Cap’s with Widow and Hawkeye as part of SHIELD, Banner’s busy being a doctor. Thor could more than handle it himself.

      Ultron however, I could see SHIELD finding him out of control and would bring in Stark since he’s the expert in robotics and could find a way to stop it without using firepower (while hopefully War Machine tries that route and Hulk pummels him to no effect).

      What I wonder while it’s on my mind….will Ultron still be made of adamantium or aren’t Marvel allowed to use it?

      • Not Adamantium.

        At least one of his forms is seemingly made of Iron Man’s armor (from the teaser), but since Fox owns that allow, it could be “vibranium” or perhaps he’s not of any special metal at all.

      • Take IM3 for example and try to explain.

        • @guessi

          Explain what? Why SHIELD didn’t help Tony?

          It’ll be explained in Cap 2 but I assume they’re trying to round up remaining Tesseract and Chitauri tech while also going on spy missions based on this Winter Soldier threat, with leads going cold (until the events of the movie).

          Meanwhile, Thor’s helping calm the unrest throughout the 9 realms (as he says in Thor: TDW when Jane asks where he’s been the past year), Banner’s keeping things in check helping people as a doctor.

          Besides, Mandarin was a terrorist and usually, the US military are the ones who handle that, plus they had Iron Patriot as their personal weapon against terrorism (as you’d know if you saw IM3, especially the scene when Rhodes bursts in on a group of people and realises they’re not terrorists).

          Tony really had no business getting involved but felt he had to, despite his anxiety attacks.

          I have a feeling you either didn’t see IM3 or have forgotten it because Marvel didn’t really need to explain why the other heroes weren’t there, you can just go on assumptions that are explained in their own solo movies.

      • Why wouldn’t Marvel be able to use adamantium….. there’s more characters than just Wolverine that have access to adamantium or was the word / use of adamantium part of the deal with FOX?

        • I assumed Fox would cry foul since Wolverine’s the one who uses it most as far as the general audiences are concerned so my next best guess would’ve been vibranium to tie into Black Panther and the fact that Cap’s shield is virtually indestructible (in the movies so far anyway) and Ultron would need to adapt himself to withstand heavy blows from Hulk and Thor.

          Maybe he starts out as Stark armor then graduates to vibranium over the movie?

          Maybe Ultron is part Stark aromor/part Destroyer (didn’t they take him to pieces to create the weapon Coulson used in The Avengers?)

  19. Please just kill of Fitzsimmons.

  20. “SHIELD was very busy, as will be revealed in future films.”

    Sooo, is SHIELD a small group of people seing on helicarrier? And what about army, anything? This is fail explanation at its best.
    What about Banner who could help, no? He was too busy at a time but than was easily found by Tony for their end credits talk?
    There must be some good explanation leaving president as well. Nooone gave a s*** about him.

    And those are just a few problems of IM3 not all of them that i tired to write down.

    • Iron Man also has War Machine (Patriot) and 50 other suits that can fight, Banner was busy, he doesn’t have to be in Iron Man…didn’t you also want to know when he got his prostate checked

      • Haha.

        But yeah, methinks guessi is one of the people on this site’s comments section that hated IM3 and found “plot holes” that are easily explained if you use logic and actually pay attention to the movie.

  21. Robert Redford is Red Skull – the political espionage aspect is his infiltration of SHIELD. I’d put money on it.

    • Exactly what I’ve been thinking since I herd Redford mention in an interview he enjoyed playing a villian.

  22. i have said it before over and over. you do a couple of episodes leading up to the cinematic events and the other episodes can be spent tracking down other rising heros and villians that are actually from the comic book. you
    can have them masked and never reveal their faces if you want to save money.
    i get very disappointed as to how the marvel creative team does things on the fly like alan traylor said and not plan ahead with coherent storylines.

    • I guess that’s why Whedon’s involved as a “fixer” to make things coherent enough to lead into his own movie.

      I understand doing things on the fly, Lord knows I’ve had to do the same myself many times (weekly writing deadline etc) because who knows whether you have to change something last minute to improve on something based on a reaction from others that staying rigid and firm in your ideas can’t allow.

      On the other hand, I assume Marvel has a plan but only in basic form (instead of having pages and pages of detailed plots leading up to Avengers, it’s just half a page of notes for example). Who knows.

      Like you said though, could be good to lead into a movie. Star Wars: The Clone Wars did that with the season 2 finale (and last ever episode of that show) featuring the Jedi knights hopping into spacecraft after finding out that Count Dooku was holding Palpatine on a ship nearby, directly leading into the opening battle in Episode III: Revenge Of The Sith.

  23. this may be a little far fetched but it would be something people didnt see coming. what if coulson is some ttype of android and he is reintroduced into the movies as….ultron. it would make the fight against ultron much more personal for the avengers. then again this far fetched because we have already seen coulson bleeding in agents of shield.

  24. I don’t think I was expecting much out of AoS but it still isn’t meeting my expectations. This show is just bad.

    • But that scene with Sky just in her bra and panties was pretty nice.

  25. I guess I have similar complaints about Arrow, but I’ve avoided AoS. Arrow makes me want to throw that little sister and her boyfriend in a baler every time I watch it. It’s only ever on to see who comes out. That’s it.

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