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Kieran says:

While I think Bretts response was childish (this movie is old, time to move on) I do agree to a certain extent. While not a comic book movie on any epic scale, it was however fun.

Spiderman and the 1st two X-men movies did take themselves quite seriously and in my opinion this didn’t. It was just a bit of fun, nothing more. That not excusing the fact his language and attitude are unacceptable.

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kosta says:

I really don’t see a problem here. Ratner is hacked off that X-Men 3, despite being extremely lucrative, continually dogs his career by way of whining fanboys pointing out the flaws. It was still a good comic book film and a darnsight more satisfying that the first one. So what? He gets annoyed and swears. Well big whoop, let’s all nerdily throw the pottymouth to the wolves for venting his frustrations!

I don’t hear anywhere near as many people clamouring in the longterm at Bryan Singer’s gate for gleefully showing us Superman imitating a crucified Jesus after carting a Kryptonite continent off into orbit? Or Michael ‘Baysplosions’ Bay for running roughshod over the Transformers comic stories with the toilet-paper script for Revenge Of The Fallen.

Let Ratner do his job. He’s not the worst director by a long chalk, even in the insular world of big-screen comic adaptations

Paul Young says:

@kosta – As I pointed out above, $14 million is not the “lucrative” of a profit for a movie of this caliber. Also, I would not have written a piece talking about Ratner and X3 if the man hadn’t of given me something to respond to. Sure Star Pulse asked the question during an interview for a different movie but it’s because the man is an easy mark. They knew he would respond that way and it would ultimately drive more traffic to their site. Ratner could have easily just asked to stay on topic for The Shooter Series but alas, he is the one that has truly not let it go and felt the need to “call us out” if you will.
And Singer did get a handful of monkey poop flung at him for Superman, and unless you were living under a rock, Bay has been and will continue to catch butt loads of flack for TF2. The difference is they aren’t running around acknowledging any of the criticism openly, defiantly and rudely. And of course he isn’t the worst director, he’s just the one running his mouth.

jordi says:

Kosta

The difference I see between Singer, Bay and Ratner is Ratner’s contempt for the fans that made the movie possible and his ‘The Box-Office figures prove it’s a good movie’ attitude. They’re all culpable of poor movies and decent ones (entertainment-wise) but for someone to publicly bite the hand that feeds them is (for me) more than a little insulting.

Brian says:

@Paul Young, Excellent retort.

Bill Blume says:

@Kosta… I think part of the difference with Ratner is that I think he truly believes his film was perfect. I don’t get the feeling this is a man who learns from his mistakes. Rather, his comments give the appearance of someone who believes he doesn’t make them.

I will admit that directors need to have some big egos, though. I don’t think you could survive a job like that with anything less. Ratner just doesn’t appear capable of keeping it real.

Michael says:

yeah, Ratner is a bit sanctimonious when it comes to his talent, which isnt absent but he is no Frank Capra. (id give him a 4/10 on skill) but i will say he makes entertaining movies.

Haggislaw says:

Does he even make anything good if Chris Tucker is not envolved?

SIN187UM says:

@ Kosta/Bill Blume

don’t all directors think their films are perfect or better than what fans/critics say it is. Case in point the Director of Showgirls held on so long saying the movie was a masterpiece that was misunderstood. I just think Ratner was given the opportunity to say F-U right back to the people who were saying F-U to him. At least he’s not challenging fans to a kumite to prove his films are good like Uwe Bol challenged fools to a boxing match to prove his crappy ass video game movies are good.

Snake Eyes says:

That was a GREAT read. I agree with everything you said – its actually really irritating to read how Ratner’s trying to take credit for keeping the franchise going.

Ken J says:

@SIN

except fans had a reason to say F-U to him…

And Kosta was supporting Ratner, in case you didn’t realize.

@Paul

Wow, X3 had THAT big of a budget??? And people thought it was crazy for Cameron to get that for his movie Avatar?? I mean, if Ratner and X3 deserved over $200 million, then Cameron should be scoring like $500 million budgets, lol.

Where did all of that money go? Obviously not to the writers or the direction because that was worth like $46 combined…

SIN187UM says:

@ Ken J

And Ratner has a reason to say F-U back to them. Was workin on 3.5 hours sleep when last posted and Kosta name just stood out for some reason. Any who I think a lot of people are just band wagon haters of Brett Ratner.

DanLister says:

@Haggislaw:
Does he even make anything good if Chris Tucker IS involved?

JD5DAD says:

I just looked at IMDB for Ratner and there is not one movie he made that I like even a little rush hour sucked and the sequals I couldn’t even watch them they were so stupid maybe he should have stuck with music vids I am so tired of these over rated dir. talking about how we didn’t see the movie the way they seen it he’s just another Frank Miller

Ken J says:

@SIN

So… if someone did something that warranted a punch in the face, and you punched him in the face, that means he has “reason” to punch you back? I thought it would have been “even” for fans to say F-U to him after he made a mockery of the X-Men franchise…

So technically, now that he said F-U back, that means it’s uneven again, so we need to say F-U back to him again. Damn, this is so confusing… Anywho, hooray for this article…

It’s not jumping on a bandwagon. I can care less what everyone else thinks, everyone could LOVE Ratner for all I care, I still think X3 was garbage and he deserves flak for it… I’m the last person to be jumping on bandwagons…

Ken J says:

I wouldn’t like his “my crap don’t stink” attitude even in a GOOD director, and he’s not even that… James Cameron kind of has that attitude, and yes, I call him a douche all the time, but at the very least he could back it up to the point where some people just say “you know what, you’re full of yourself, but you have reason to…” But Ratner having that attitude is like an illiterate person thinking he’s the greatest literary genius or Rosie O’Donnell thinking she’s a health guru…

Justin says:

The problem is that these directors are so disconnected from the fans that they dont know how to do half of these movies justice. Fans do. (some of them). When Singer says dont listen to anyone on the internet I see where he’s coming from becuase most of you guys are fake. its not that hard to make a good Xmen movie. Dont focus on one person is the first thing.(Hugh Jackman is not Wolverine)Multi layered story with propoer actors do this thing properly.

DanLister says:

@Justin: Wowsers, dude! All this time, I thought I was real…now I find out (from a self-appointed better director) that “its not that hard to make a good Xmen movie” and that “most of you guys (I assume this means me as well) are fake”.

Hoss, a word of Friendly Critique, if I may? If you wish to present an argument of sterling-clarity logic in defense of Ratner, don’t start with a statement that appears to demean him (”The problem is that these directors are so disconnected from the fans that they dont know how to do half of these movies justice. Fans do.”)…secondly, use correct spelling/punctuation.

George Costanza says:

Complaining about spelling/punctuation? Lol

freemantle_uk says:

I agree with most of what you said, but I just want to say that Brett Ratner wasn’t third choice, he was more like fifth choice. As well as Bryan Singer and Matthew Vaughan, Zack Sydner and Joss Wheldon (both talented directors) were offered the director’s chair and Rob Bowman, Alex Proyas and John Moore were also in the mix.

I can’t believe Ratner complains about Bryan Singer using his brain when making films. He is pretty much saying all he cares about is making the film look good, focusing on action and special effects, whilst Singer wanted to look at deeper themes, which makes his films films good in the first place.
Comic-book fans want more then just action in the films, they want substances, Ratner didn’t understand that.

Finally, the cartoon was a continuation to the comics, but it was one of the best cartoons in the 90s, I grew up with it and it made me an X-Men fan in the first place. Even the cartoon brought out the sociological themes that made the comics great and that’s why I like the X-Men media at its best.

Ken J says:

@George

Well, when you’re trying to insult people, it’ll be good to not make a bunch of stupid mistakes while doing so… :-P Not you, I know he wasn’t talking to you specifically, just a figure of speech…

Ricardo says:

nICE ARTICLE SCREENRANT, BRETT RATNER MESSE UP WITH X-MEN FRANCHISE, NOW WE GOTTA FIX IT THE UPCOMING MOVIES,WHaT I MOST HATED WAS THAT HE HAD TO KILL ALL THE CHARACTERS, JEAN,XARLIES XAVIER AND ESPECIALLY CYCLOPS , THE TRUE LEADER.
BRETT YOU WANNA SEE WHERE RANKING
-CRISTOPHER NOLAN
-STEVEN SPIELBERG
-JAMES CAMERON
-BRYAN SINGER
-SAM RAIMI
sorry that one is not yours, keep going down

-JOEL SCHUMACKER
BRETT RATNER
-MgM
GAVIN HOOD

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