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Gary says:

I wouldnt mind seeing Ratner attached to another Marvel property ,
as long as it wasnt another rush job .
The studio played a HUGE role in the failure of X3 .
It wasnt all Ratners fault.

Matt Keith says:

PLEASE don’t let Ratner do another Marvel film, in fact don’t let him do ANY film.

Rhaemye says:

Ratner did give us Prison Break, and my personal favorite romcom movie The Family Man… X3 wasn’t as good as X2, but everybody seems to forget X1 also had a thin storyline and on top of that was way too short. And I loved Magneto crushing cars with his fingers, and most of all Beast in X3.

Claude says:

Way to go, Rhaemye. Right behind you on that one

Josh R says:

But see, X1’s thin storyline still make sense, with a logical story progression. The same cannot be said of X3. However, I agree that neither of them compare to X2.

Ratner needs to stay away from the X-Franchise because it’s obvious he doesn’t have any push with Fox. Fox makes the movies. Where a guy like Singer could probably convince Fox that adding 72 new characters is probably not the best idea, Ratner can’t.

So, yeah, X3 isn’t ALL Ratner’s fault, since Fox played a huge part. But it’s obvious the pair doesn’t work.

Daniel F says:

I’d prefer to never see Ratner attached to another film. Even his non Xmen stuff sucks.

Luke says:

Okay, the studio probably did play a role in X-Men 3 not being a better film, but you can’t say that Ratner doesn’t share the blame. I mean he was the freakin’ direcor, unless they replaced him (they didn’t), or he had massive conflicts with the studio (he didn’t), how is he not responsible for the final product?

That being said, I’ll agree that from an objective standpoint the film really isn’t terrible. Is it as good as the first two? Of course not, but it’s a pretty decently made action film and everybody seems to ignore the fact that it wasn’t lambasted by critics the way it was my fans (It’s MetaCritic score is 58 compared to the original’s 64). I think the main reason fans were/are so upset with it is because of the sweeping liberities it took with such a beloved storyline, and the fact that they killed off so many key characters. Those are perfectly valid reasons to dislike a movie, but they’re based on personal opinion rather than the quality of the movie. Again, it wasn’t as good as the first two, but it was still a perfectly servicable and reasonably well-made action film.

Daniel F says:

I would have to disagree Luke it was flat out terrible. I’m usually not a big supporter of strictly sticking to source material and that’s not even my big complain about the film. There were to many characters making it impossible to tell a complete well crafted story. Phoenix stood around for 50 mins of the film doing absolutely nothing and was really only useful to the story in her first 5 mins on screen and her last 3. There was so much going on that you didn’t even get invested in the story before your attention was jerked some where else. You didn’t even get a chance to care that so many characters were dying because they didn’t expect you to have a big enough attention span to stay in to the movie if you were focused on the death. It didn’t even hit you who died until the credits were rolling and your like “Oh crap”

Bill Blume says:

@Daniel F, I tend to agree with you here. The real issue with X-Men III goes back to the script. It contains some totally out-of-character moments, enough that you get the feeling the writers were completely ignoring the characters that the first two films had developed. And then there’s the whole absurdity of the plot itself. Magneto is SOOOOOOO powerful that he can rip the Golden Gate Bridge off its base and give his army access to the facility on Alcatraz Island. If he’s that powerful… why not just throw the stupid bridge at the facility? Seriously. These are obvious plot holes, and these kind of mistakes happen when a film is rushed.

Ratner does share some of the blame for not fighting for more out of the script, but given how little time the studio gave him (Did he really have ANY time to make major changes to that script before filming began?), it’s no surprise the film was a mess.

The only positive thing I can say for the film and the writers was that they at least had the courage to try to adapt the Phoenix Saga. That wasn’t going to be easy, because there was no way to be completely faithful to the original story.

stuntmanJ says:

I know Rattner was just thrown in to get the X-movie machine rolling, but second chances haven’t worked in the past. Mark Steven Johnson got a second chance after Daredevil, he gave us Ghost Rider. If I were Rattner I would also stay away from any Fox film dealing with the X-franchise or any other Marvel property associated with Fox(bad track record).

Charles says:

Sometimes authors use a novel or screenplay to support political or social beliefs; or to cry out for morality and ethical principles. This is no more clearly evident than with Holocaust books and films. Whenever we stand up to those who deny or minimize the Holocaust, or to those who support genocide we send a critical message to the world.

We live in an age of vulnerability. Holocaust deniers ply their mendacious poison everywhere, especially with young people on the Internet. We know from captured German war records that millions of innocent Jews (and others) were systematically exterminated by Nazi Germany – most in gas chambers. Holocaust books and films help to tell the true story of the Shoah, combating anti-Semitic historical revision. And, they protect future generations from making the same mistakes.

The character “Magneto” plays a critical role in all of the X-Men screenplays. He is not your typical villain. He is evil, but not totally evil. One can only wonder what he was like before becoming a victim of the Holocuast. How did his personality change and why? An exploration into the early years of Magneto’s life, as well as how he was changed by the Holocaust, would create a deeper, more complex character. At the same time, it would provide an opportunity for viewers to gain a more complete understanding of the horror of the Holocaust and how it changed people phychologically in an adverse manner.

I wrote “Jacob’s Courage” to promote Holocaust education. This coming of age love story presents accurate scenes and situations of Jews in ghettos and concentration camps, with particular attention to Theresienstadt and Auschwitz. It examines a constellation of emotions during a time of incomprehensible brutality. A world that continues to allow genocide requires such ethical reminders and remediation.

Many authors feel compelled to use their talent to promote moral causes. Holocaust books and movies carry that message globally, in an age when the world needs to learn that genocide is unacceptable. Such authors attempt to show the world that religious, racial, ethnic and gender persecution is wrong; and that tolerance is our progeny’s only hope.

Charles Weinblatt
Author, “Jacob’s Courage”
http://jacobscourage.wordpress.com/
http://jacobscourageaholocaustlovestory.blogspot.com/

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