ken, crook, nice sparring…interesting and snarky too.

ken, i never heard the UN compared to a giant labor union before. great idea. It almost sounds as if you have talent on loan from He Whose Name Must Not Be Mentioned in the BSG Finale Review Thread!

This is where we state our opinions, not argue to undermine others opinions.

-Bruce

It’s pretty useless trying to have a discussion with someone who is like butt buddies with the UN, and to make things worse, one who can’t even read and comprehend simple English. We’ll be wasting our time breaking down the definition of words and semantics and all of that so one post will be come 16 posts of explanation before you get the “ooohhh, now I get it” moment. So don’t worry about it, you love the UN, we get it, and we’re all really really proud of you, really we are! None of us are laughing, nope, NONE.

Um, I was laughint WITH you there…

To your credit at least you haven’t been trying to make schoolboy-level comparisons, like the effectiveness of the UN versus performance of a completely incongruous organization dedicated to, say,defence, like say, NATO, because that would be really dumb, hah, hah ! Oh, hang on, you did, didn’t you ?

“…you act like you’re married to the UN or something…”

H’yuk ! I know you are, but what am I ?

Anyway, also out of curiosity, were you getting a cut from the OFF scandal or something? Seriously, you talk about NATO’s “record” yet you seem to ignore all of the countless scandals that keep coming up regarding the UN accepting and dispersing bribes, skimming money off programs meant to feed the poor and all of those things you claim the UN is so good at doing, or allowing countries to influence the way founding members votes, etc. etc.

Those individual countries are more than capable enough to distribute funding or aide to countries in need without the UN, unless you think we NEED some of that money stolen or used as leverage in order for these countries to get help.

You claim the UN is only as effective as its members, I disagree, it’s LESS effective than its members because a lot of the moneys from these individual countries get misused or stolen, so without them, I believe they will be much more efficient.

I await your response. It’s amusing to see how you act like you’re married to the UN or something the way you defend it, lol.

The UN is useless in the extreme. I’ll tell you what might make them more effective: Instead of basing them in cushy NYC, move their damned headquarters to Iran or Iraq.

Maybe that would give them some much needed real world perspective. They are the non-academic version of Ivory Tower elitists who get nothing done.

Vic

NATO was established for defence purposes, Ken. Its record also hasn't exactly been exemplory. Like many multi-national organisations it suffers from a range of issues.
The UN is not a competitor to NATO: it has a wider mandate: it assists a lot of the world's population on a daily basis with health, food, education, shelter, etc (you know, the boring stuff, that doesn't involve "action-orientated" activities).
Anyhow, I bet you're looking forward to your school formal; I'm confident that persistance will reward you with an eventual graduation.

The only international organization worth being a member of is NATO since they are an action-oriented coalition. Not just the “oh, you do something wrong we will take a vote, don’t make us take a vote!!” Oooooohhhhh, scary!!!! I’m shaking in my boots just thinking about it!!

BTW, I personally associate them more by their cute baby blue hats than the black helicopters. Everyone has black helicopters…

Alas, no Toasters to fill the role. What are we left with to fill the breach?

Ah, the good old UN (Black helicopters an’ all)!

Course, the UN is made up of its member states, so if your own country happens to be a member, (maybe even a prominent one…possibly even a founding member), then you won’t have to go too far afield to make a complaint about how it’s been run to date…

Yee-ha, pardner !

Thanks for stepping in on that one before I did…

Vic

And who knows where all of that money goes. Oh wait, I think a couple years ago we uncovered a huge scandal with the head of the UN that showed where some of that money went… Anyhow, is it just me or does the UN seem like a big international labor union? And they are just as corrupt and useless as labor unions, so it fits.

Actually, what am I saying? Labor unions aren’t useless. If their purpose in life is to promote outsourcing and to destroy American businesses and our economy then they are very effective indeed…

LMAO!

Vic

Don’t get me wrong, I have watched Battlestar from the get go, but there are more pressing issues to deal with! Unless, Sci-Fi gave them some cash and said, “hey, our 2 hour finale is coming up, you scratch our back we’ll scratch yours!”