Comments on: Battlestar Galactica Premiere, Earth And The Final Cylon

By: Teri J

Teri J — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 12:25:02 +0000

btw- I wonder about the possibility of seeing the cylons at some point in caprica. Does anyone know precisely when in the prior storyline the cylons were inserted into the human population?

By: The Duke

The Duke — Sun, 05 Jul 2009 08:37:31 +0000

Sorry – if the final five can regenerate, they would come back looking younger. Saul has aged over the last 20 years, so his starting point is a young Saul Tigh. If he was regenerated he would have to be as a young Saul Tigh.

Ellen comes back looking the same age. That doesn’t work. It’s a stupid obvious point, and one the writers failed to realise.

They fracked it up. There is no other way to see it and it frustrates me that I waited so long to see the plot turn to rubbish.

By: Mert

Mert — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 10:39:42 +0000

I didn’t realize something like the remnant of the statue of liberty. Are you sure about it? And it would be very helpful if you would upload the image on the net. I watched 10th episode again but there were only the buildings and a bridge, no knocked over statue.

By: martin

martin — Mon, 02 Feb 2009 07:00:21 +0000

It was in fact Earth…
wasn’t there a knocked over Statue of Liberty in the destroyed Earth episode?

By: Mert

Mert — Sat, 31 Jan 2009 17:59:50 +0000

Wow it is one helluva cliffhanger at the end of the last episode-”The Oath” But I guess Col. Tigh is expecting the marines to throw a grenade ergo he aims so cautiously to shoot it before it explodes to minimize it’s affect. So they must be still alive because it’s imperative for them to stay alive for the good sake of this show, right?

By: achilles

achilles — Fri, 30 Jan 2009 03:43:07 +0000

How could Ellen not be the fifth. She cant be alive 2000 years previous and 2000 later. Unless shes magic or a frickin robot. I read on the Sci Fi channel that part of the story line in the new Caprica series is that the two warring families both lose a daughter and create a cylon model of each. Could the Starbuck angle be tied into this. I think the little details that a small percentage of fans think of as boring make it seem more real. That way you feel each death a little more as opposed to somebody from Trek dieing and you not giving a crap.

By: Bruce Simmons

Bruce Simmons — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:52:49 +0000

AAAHHH, sorry, my bad. I get so excited about some things, that I leave out the subtle info.

yea, Vernon knew. I sometimes reference the actors as their character names… bad habit. SORRY FOR THE MISLEAD everyone.

Thanks for setting it straight Mert.

Well, back to the office grind for a few. Later all!

By: Mert

Mert — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:50:55 +0000

Sorry Sometimes I rush things up like reading articles properly. A habit I got in school that never left me

By: Mert

Mert — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:45:18 +0000

Oh wait you mean Kate Vernon has known Ellen is the final cylon for 2 years. A little clarification after reading your other post.

By: Bruce Simmons

Bruce Simmons — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:44:59 +0000

Did you read the article I linked to in my last comment?

About 1/2 way down that article, next to her characters image in the post, she said it herself in an interview. Moore picked her early on.

By: Mert

Mert — Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:43:17 +0000

How come you say Ellen has known that she is the final cylon for 2 years??

By: Bruce Simmons

Bruce Simmons — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 22:58:04 +0000

Matt, I hate to break it to you but we are going to be watching Ellen in 7 episodes tormenting Saul. She is the final cylon. She’s known this for 2 years now. Which is and of itself, a mind blower for me.

Check out my latest post on this over at
http://tinyurl.com/de4hzm

Here’s the long version if that doesn’t work: http://screenrant.com/battlestar-galactica-news-episode-recap-brusimm-5162/

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 21:13:51 +0000

Final Cylon….. everyone, we were told Ellen to throw us off.

Kara? Perhaps when ellen says, ‘everything is in place’ to Tigh, that they would be reborn, is the same thing that regenerated Kara and her ship, identically. Maybe there is an old spacestation not too far from this earth???

This station could have stored the information of the final five, then sent their consciousness, specs to the cylon homeworld.

For all we know, Kara’s consciousness was sent to the Cylon Homeworld, she was regenerated and sent back to galactica as a hidden spy or weapon, just like Boomer, but deadlier! Afterall, she was gone 3 months, someone had to build her, and the allied cylons would be unaware of this.

At this stage it is the only plausible thing i can think of. Maybe Humanity is not the Fifth cylon, because not everyone is having flashbacks or maybe eventually they will, perhaps the final five were the ones that proposed this new technology and sent it to Caprica, where their consiouness and programming got into Capricas machines and humanity killed off by the cylons, although at the time, it would have been seen as emerging technology, which was 2 thousand years ago.

So many possibilities, I’m gunna miss this show when it finishes!

By: Mert

Mert — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 16:09:22 +0000

Yep. It’s right. The episode numbers sometimes just confuse us really. Also I still think the last episode is crap. It’s boring to watch Roslin running aboard the ship for ages and watching Adama brush his teeth not for once but twice! The remaining episodes are numbered but the producers/writers are still into too much unnecessary details rather than mind-blowing puzzles and twists of the climax.Ans also there is no clue whatsoever if the resolution would make us all happy or otherwise. I just wish for the best and the rest is up to them. It will either suck or rock

By: Bruce Simmons

Bruce Simmons — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 15:24:28 +0000

Mert: Every episode list I’ve come across confused the crap out of me because they aren’t at the number I expected either.

By: Mert

Mert — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 13:06:01 +0000

Finally some sensible ideas. Thanks to The Brian. However it’s episode 17, not 21 so we will find it out even sooner.

By: The Brian

The Brian — Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:33:35 +0000

has anyone picked up on the fact that one of the last episodes that is supposed to air on 2-27-09 Episode 421 is called “Someone to watch over me” I remember in Galactica 1980 the humans were at a modern day earth for and while some of the crew would sometimes go down and visit earth incognito, the fleet and Galactica would stay out of sight and watch over earth in case the cylons showed. I theorize that RDM is going to somewhat remake this episode, except with his usual twists. He’s done it before, paralleing 1978-1980 episodes with modern day ones, the death and ressurection of Starbuck, the return of the Pegasus, water Riots, food contaminations, these were all throwback episodes to the original, and RDM hasn’t done one in a while, think he might be due.
I think that the haven’t found the earth they were meant to find, it’s only theroized that the decimated planet they find is earth, what if they find “our earth” and await cavil and the cylons for a final showdown?
Anyone think of that?

By: Mert

Mert — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 13:21:06 +0000

The last episode really sucks. It gives no interesting details about the last cylon or anything particularly interesting. It will be hard for the show to end in a surprising way if the rest of the episodes are like the 12th one. The only thing is that Felix is the man behind the uprising and definitely no surprise there, at least for me because I was expecting him to turn into a source of destruction till he has lost his leg, and also the webisodes(face of the enemy) were pointing the same direction.

By: Nick

Nick — Sat, 24 Jan 2009 11:25:18 +0000

My take after watching the premiere is that the 12 colonies are the descendants of the 13th tribe who left earth after the nuclear holocaust. Both cylon and human were together 2000 years ago to start over.
As history tends to repeat itself, the cylon and human were killing each other again with the first and conclusively the destruction of the 12 colonies. Resulting in their cooperation again to find a suitable home, starting with finding earth. Now, that the earth is a graveyard, they will start over to find another place somewhere in the galaxy until they repeat the same mistake in thousands of years ahead of them.

By: Steve Hudgeons

Steve Hudgeons — Thu, 22 Jan 2009 17:17:05 +0000

Here is how I see it going, they divide up, have a civil war and at the end, Starbuck causes events to unfold that cause the Battlestar to explode killing everyone that is left and then Starbuck shoots herself in the head.