Will ‘Batman V Superman’ Introduce The Flash?

Published 2 months ago by , Updated August 20th, 2014 at 5:06 pm,

Batman V Superman Flash Introduction Will Batman V Superman Introduce The Flash?

By bringing DC Comics’ two heaviest hitters to-to-toe, the appeal of Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice is obvious. Even so, it seems fans (and director Zack Snyder) are looking for any chance to add another superhero to the mix. Most recently, a pair of green socks led many to believe that The Flash would be joining the party, once again raising the question: will Batman V Superman end up introducing every member of the Justice League ahead of the ‘official’ team-up?

We’ve got our own theories on just who will end up being featured or excluded from the Dawn of Justice, and thoughts on why letting Barry Allen sit this round out might be for the best.

First things first: the recent rumors surrounding Scoot McNairy – or his legs, more specifically – are a perfect example of why fans should be taking every glimpse into production with one heaping dose of salt. The only information gleaned from the set photo was that McNairy’s character will have something significant happen to his legs, with special effects to be applied later.

Although several outlets and fans took that as an indication of a role as Barry Allen a.k.a. ‘The Flash’ – and the idea of McNairy’s upper body staying static while his legs move as a blur is enticing – there is surprisingly little evidence to support that suspicion. We have our own theories on what role his legs could play in the story (we’ll get to that later), but the question of The Flash’s presence is one worth asking.

Justice League Movie Members New 52 Will Batman V Superman Introduce The Flash?

The ‘Scarlet Speedster’s place within the League is beyond question, so it seems odd that out of the entire team pictured above (with most of the modern members) Barry Allen is the only hero yet to be confirmed or strongly rumored for Dawn of Justice (or to have enjoyed an attempted franchise of his own). So it’s no surprise that plenty are waiting for the last yellow shoe to fall. BadassDigest shares our reservations over McNairy’s role, but say their sources confirm that The Flash will appear in Batman V Superman, with the entire League “assembled” by the film’s conclusion.

Even those words are open to interpretation, but it’s worth pointing out that reports of The Flash being included in the film or being cast have been hard to find since production actually began. Rumors of his – and Green Lantern‘s – involvement circulated while Warner Bros. and Snyder were keeping quiet, but since the studio has laid out its plans and Snyder has started filming, the well has run dry.

That’s usually not how substantial rumors progress; just look at the undying reports of Jason Momoa being cast as Aquaman. There seems to be fire to that smoke, at least enough to bring forth reports that WB is already working on a standalone movie script. So why does it seem that The Flash might really be left out of the fight?

Batman Superman Wonder Woman Movie Suits Will Batman V Superman Introduce The Flash?

Among those who believe that Zack Snyder knows his comics – regardless of whether his style is everyone’s cup of tea -  it’s been assumed that he wouldn’t be sacrificing his focus on character drama and conflict for the sake of simply throwing every League member on screen (and with Warner Bros.’ extensive movie schedule now official, they’ve clearly put a long-term plan in place).

We’ve explained our reasons for feeling that with the same writers and director, Dawn of Justice will be continuing the Man of Steel‘s story first and foremost. So if we cast all hopes and dreams aside, and take a practical approach to how one builds a superhero team ‘event,’ what does Snyder need to justify the presence of so many heroes?

What is it that Superman (Henry Cavill) needs? Someone to hold him accountable for his actions in Metropolis – enter an aged, battle-hardened Batman (Ben Affleck). What is it that Wonder Woman (Gal Gadot) needs to enter the world of man? Most likely, an event the size of Kal-El and General Zod’s leveling of Metropolis; the same kind of threat that would bring Aquaman (Jason Momoa?) to the surface – or the Atlantean throne. Man of Steel viewers remember what the ‘World Engine’ did to the Indian Ocean.

The Flash Superman Justice League Comic Will Batman V Superman Introduce The Flash?

What is it Barry Allen needs? A bolt of lightning. It’s hard to get past the fact that to include The Flash alongside Superman means largely avoiding his origin or the source of his powers entirely. He isn’t tied to Metropolis or Gotham, simply a Midwest forensics expert who starts to acquire odd powers as a result of a sudden infusion with extra-dimensional energy. In other words: in need of serious screen time to be anything more than wedged into the story.

We’ve already assumed that Cyborg (Ray Fisher) will be introduced in a small role, and Aquaman will likely also appear as a cameo leading into Justice League – a movie that could be coming mere months after Dawn of Justice. It’s entirely possible that forensics expert Barry Allen could be yet another seed planted, but the shift in tone (and superpowers) seems like throwing a wrench into the works of a film with enough riding on it already.

If including The Flash – uniform, powers and all – in Dawn of Justice means changes to his origin story, skipping over the discovery or source of his powers, and losing his signature lighthearted humor, then it might be best for fans to simply leave him out for another day. Or another movie.

Flash Green Lantern Solo Movie Will Batman V Superman Introduce The Flash?

It was for those same reasons that the leaked DC schedule featuring a Flash/Green Lantern movie seemed like a surprisingly wise move on WB’s part; if you have a hero with a cosmic origin to introduce, and a space cop in need of rebooting, why not let both of them share the responsibility? The pair may not possess the same global recognition, but Hal Jordan and Barry Allen are just as common a duo as Batman and Superman.

We’ll offer more details on why a film centered on those two would be a unique franchise in WB’s catalogue when it’s confirmed, but for now, all evidence suggests that The Flash and a new Green Lantern (Hal or otherwise) are the odd men out where Dawn of Justice is concerned. So even if Barry Allen appears in a small role looking for answers – forensic or otherwise – WB is surely in no hurry to even mention Green Lantern for the moment. And for the time being, we wouldn’t hold our breath on seeing either of them appear as fans might hope.

What do you think of our reasoning? Could Zack Snyder manage to explain Barry Allen’s powers on top of the rest of the film’s goals, or would audiences even ask questions once The Flash takes the spotlight? Sound off in the comments.

Batman V Superman: Dawn of Justice arrives on March 25th, 2016.

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  1. While I agree that Snyder will continue the MoS story in a strong capacity, the more general theme of the film seems to be the rise of superheroes and metahumans — Zod’s attack of Earth is clearly something that GL can be part of, and Superman’s emergence (according to MoS, he’s the first public metahuman) could trigger an age of heroes where Flash is hinted at. I wouldn’t mind all 7 members of the JLA being mentioned in this movie, not since it is titled “Dawn of Justice.”

  2. If this is the ‘Dawn of Justice’ I would deduce that all the founding members of the JL will be in the movie at some point, my thoughts are that they will all get together at some point in BvS and then go off for a solo movie each and then reform for a JL movie.

    • The alleged plan though contradicts that, with Shazam happening after BVS, JL happening after JL and THEN the solo movies.

      • It hasn’t been announced that Shazam will – in fact – be produced after ‘Dawn of Justice’. If Johnson is hinting that Shazam (or Black Adam) will be coming really soon, he means either in ‘Dawn of Justice’ or ‘Justice League’. DC isn’t going to start off their constructed cinematic universe with a protagonist the audience isn’t even aware of when they are in helm of popular heroes such Flash, Wonder Woman, and Aquaman that can intrigue more audiences to go watch the movie.

  3. as this movie has the subtitle of “Dawn of Justice” it is pretty clear that there will be an appearance from every founding member of the justice league, so Superman, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman and Victor Stone (Cyborg) are there in this movie for sure and till now we didn’t hear any news regarding Green Lantern and Flash but i think they will have a small cameo at the ending sequence as their super hero alter ego or appear in their civilian identities somewhere in the middle of the movie for some reason or in both ways, who know but i am sure that all the 7 will appear in this movie

    • They could show news clips describing actions taken by them all and then maybe a little news segment of a reporter or panel of reporters questioning their motives/morals so that the heroes can be shown without being in the main story, but also without taking away from it.

  4. is it safe to assume that we are at the point where we do not need ( or mostly don’t want) anymore origin stories??? yes flash can show up and a very large portion of the movie goers will know him or green lantern and be very familiar with them. If you are still need of origin stories, you have a year and half to go study them all.

    no more origin stories!!!!

    • I agree. A better way to explain their origin stories is by doing a 3-minute scene in the BvS film where Batman explains all 6 heroes info like real name, powers, weaknesses, etc. to Alfred. And the fact that he already knew Clark existed he just didnt know if he’s a threat or not.

      • That would be really cool, like really!

      • Yeah that’s actually the best idea ever!! This needs to be noticed!

      • I like this. also, at the end, when they all assemble into a sortof group…at the very end….we need to hear someone say offscreen “hey guys…sorry I’m late” and then the camera pan over to Shazam/CM/(the Rock) waving with his biggest goofy grin/smile….and then we need to end w/ Batman muttering something to superman…

      • Great idea to kill the mystique and element of surprise by just summarizing each character right at the beginning like that.

      • I agree completely. The idea of that is realistic and seeing as the movie is the “Dawn of Justice” I’m sure all founding members will make a short cameo in the movie or even each have there own personal scene and by the end a new threat arrives big enough for them to know it can’t be handled alone and they unite or they find it best that they work together after the conflict that passes between all the characters. Last scene is them all meeting coming together for the first time. I can see it now.

    • Do you really think that the large amount of audiences that will watch this film, give a damn about reading the origin stories online? The whole point of movies is so that you escape from this world and get pulled into another, forcing people to do their homework on each character contradicts that, movies are not there to be researched, they are there to be enjoyed! Audiences should be able to enjoy a film on it’s own and if that requires origin stories or flashbacks then so be it. Besides most people are tired or retelling origin stories like Batman and Spider-Man but most audiences aren’t familiar with the origins of Flash, Aquaman and Wonder Woman, some will watch the Flash show but that’s 3% of the audience of Batman v Superman.

      • You are correct, the majority of moviegoers won’t do that kind of homework.

        However that same majority also won’t need feature length origin stories. They would be satisfied with the most basic need-to-know details about these characters, and that can be handled in one movie.

        We can compare it to movies like X-Men or Watchmen. They managed to introduce several superhero characters in one movie.

    • I can get behind that idea. I’d also like to point out, that the comics don’t necessarily start off with an origin story as issue #1. DC could take that approach to it’s movies as well. Introducing the characters, showing what they can do, and then going back and telling the origin story later.

    • Batman could even explain all their origins to all of them in a group and just blow their minds. I remember a scene from the cartoon where they’re all trying to decide if they should take off their costumes and dress normally to avoid detection but nobody wants to do it until Batman just lists off all of their secret identities. Hilarious.

      • Yes. I remember this little bit . It happen when people of hawkgirl’s planet attack on earth. Bt I think Flash was hesitate to reveal his identity, then Batman just show that he is Mr.Wayne, then everyone reveal there identity.
        Wonder woman also compliment about flash’s hair.

        I knw my English is very bad. So Sry for it.

        • Don’t be sorry; your English is perfectly fine.

          I like your comment. And Flash’s hair…lol :-)

  5. So, he will be the roadrunner.

  6. Just throwing this out there, but what if he’s playing Hermes? It would explain why they need to change his legs, and it could make sense considering the fact that Wonder Woman is there. Who knows, maybe he even brought her there.

    • Could be, good observation.

  7. So Far,all this stuff is still speculation candy! Zach Synder has a very BIG job on his hands,and i sure hope that he’s able to deliver great results with “BATMAN V. SUPERMAN”
    but all this talk about adding other “Justice League” members,gets boring after a while! the Grant Gustave actor playing “THE FLASH” for CW’s new TV series in the Fall
    seems an interesting choice of casting-but i’m still not impressed by that new costume!
    if Synder does use The Flash in his movie,then i sure hope he looks way much like the Flash that i fondly remember from comics of the 1960s. having tried to watch Synder’s
    2009 “WATCHMEN” movie many times,it still puts me to sleep! i sure hope that that isn’t
    the case in 2016,because a lot is riding on this-especially with Marvel/Disney’s Box
    office supremacy,since DC/Warners has a lot of catching up to do! don’t know about the “Wonder Woman” casting though-she still looks like a “XENA” rip-off!

    • Do realize the costume Grant Gustin is dawning in the first season of The Flash will not be the costume he will dawn the whole show. The producers have commented that they will be using the blue print of Arrow and evolve the character, he will start as Barry Allen the fastest man alive and become The Flash and you can count on the costume evolving as well. And not to mention that the news paper at the end of the flash pilot has a picture of him wearing a more familiar suit. I mean seriously the one he wears first doesn’t even pop out of a ring, do you really think the show won’t utilize that in the show? Like they’ll do Grod and Reverse Flash without the suit that goes in his ring

      • Why do you guys keep saying that? Look man, at this stage DC cannot catch up to Marvel. They are doing their OWN thing, and Marvel has a formula that works for them. They shouldn’t be trying to be their competitor, and I sure as hell hope they aren’t trying to copy their movie style. Have some balls, and make the type of comic book films they’re interested in.

        Let Warner/DC be judged based on their own merits, and what works for them. Stop comparing them to Marvel’s MCU, and realize they have totally different approaches. This kind of diversity is healthy for the superhero genre, and keeps it fresh so we don’t hit the genre’s fatigue soon.

  8. I really hope this is true. I also want to see Hal Jordan. Plus it would be great if J’onn J’onzz is shown too. The Martian Manhunter is one of the best members on the team and I can’t wait to see him. I think Peter Mensah would be awesome as J’onn.

  9. “an event the size of Kal-El and General Zod’s leveling of Metropolis”
    Andrew….C’mon, again it was Zod’s World Engine that did the bloody damage. Please!

    • Pirate does have a point Andrew.

    • ^ This + 7 Billion…! (As in for every single human being Superman saved on that day).

      Ooops! But, oh, maybe we shouldn’t mention that seeing as it makes complete F*****g sense & the facts support it 100%. Is the obvious truth here like telling our mom how much we love her kissing us at our school’s front-steps?

      What happens then if one of us saves a neighborhood from a bomb? We’ll have to re-evaluate our vigilante careers! Saving the world could well be the end of your world as you know it…! Green Day! lol

      :-)

  10. If it’s true I think he should look like The Flash from Injustice gods among us

  11. With those legs, he could be Magog.

    Doesn’t he have hoofed feet and goat legs? There is one character who does I know.

  12. I think for the most part that we won’t be seeing the entire team assembled at the end of the movie. I’m more or less thinking that snippets of the team as they are, will be featured on the evening news in reel footage or captured cell phone video doing rescues thru out the America or the world in general.

    I can imagine Batman,thru his eavesdropping satellite keeping tabs on the other heroes as they emerge. Even to the point of informing Superman when they meet about the existence of the other heroes of the world.
    I’m sure Batman will let Superman know about his disdain for super humans with god-like powers.

    But overall, with the exception of Wonder Woman, I don’t think the other heroes will be seen on a real interacting basis, though I wouldn’t mind it.

  13. And so the latest rumors surrounding the continuing adventures of this latest incarnation of Superman train wreck just keeps chewing up track.
    Wonder Woman looks like a scrawny strip club pole dancer who raided Xena’s wardrobe for her latest dance routine.
    Then there’s Ben Affleck. ‘Nuff said there.
    The there’s Jesse Eisenberg as a new take on Lex Luthor. *ugh* ’nuff said there too.
    You reach a point where all you can do is just shake your head.

    • Interesting analogy. But this Superman train didn’t actually wreck. It went all the way to the station and it picked up a huge bunch of passengers. You stayed back at the station with a few others, but that doesn’t really qualify as a wreck.

      It’s perfectly okay that you’re unhappy with it all. But that’s like just your opinion, man ;)

  14. Personally I’m excited about all this news. I think the film justice league should have them all.
    Superman, Batman, Wonder woman, Aquaman, Flash, Green Lantern, Cyborg. I would also like to see Martian manhunter but since Goyer hates him maybe justice league 2.
    But about all the team up and rushing into things. If its done well then I hope it will go good. it will be good to have a team up movies so soon after one another. I mean look at Guardians of the Galaxy and the Xmen movies. So many heroes yet they dont need a origin story or a separate movie.

    I mean look at avengers. After we all saw Avengers did we really want a captain america 2, Iron man 3, thor 2. No we wanted Avengers 2 and not wait three years.

  15. I also love the Idea of a Flash, Green Lantern team up movie. That would get two heroes off the ground without it being too much of a risky box office bet.

  16. Wonder Woman comes to earth in a storm and there is tons lightning, thereby creating the Flash (whose back story is laid in his forensic work on Zod’s body and other related research). I could see him being a scientist at Lexcorp. instead of police. He could discover his powers (fall in the Batman camp – Superman must be stopped), and give some assistance at the end of the film. I love the idea of the Flash Green Lantern team up movie – Dawn of Justice is getting crowded to launch so many origin stories…

    • Flash is only rumoured.

      Also, we don’t know that BvS will launch all their origin stories too. They might just be appearing briefly.