Zack Snyder Talks ‘Batman vs. Superman’ Story; Teases New Costume Reveals

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2014, as far as the superhero cinema genre is concerned, will go down as the year of Marvel comic book movies, with new Captain America, Spider-Man, and X-Men films having been released, along with an intriguing newcomer to the big screen in Guardians of the Galaxy. Meanwhile, over at DC, there are big projects on the horizon; not only are multiple DC comic properties slated to become modern TV series by late 2014 (The Flash, Gotham, and Constantine chief among them), but director Zack Snyder is putting together his Man of Steel sequel, currently known by the public as Batman vs. Superman, for a theatrical release in 2016.

Those who’ve been following major casting announcements for the Man of Steel sequel – Oscar-winner Ben Affleck being set to play Batman, Fast & Furious alum Gal Gadot signing up to portray the new screen incarnation of Wonder Woman, and Oscar-nominee Jesse Eisenberg taking on the role of iconic Superman villain Lex Luthor – should understand one thing all too well by now: Snyder has a vision for this movie and he is going to see it through to its logical end, no matter how much concern, doubt and/or anger fans voice along the way. That means the filmmaker’s promise to “explode” the Superman and Batman film universes should definitely come true; whether that will be for good or bad, remains to be seen.

Then again, Snyder has never been one to shy away from projects that draw passionate responses and/or come attached with lofty expectations from onlookers, so in a way the Batman vs. Superman movie is really just business as usual for the director. Indeed, as has been pointed out before here at Screen Rant, much of the pressure on Snyder has long been self-applied, and that remains the case with the next Superman movie installment – in ways other than just the contentious casting decisions for the film that’ve been made, that is.

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During a recent interview with Forbes, Snyder indicated that was an active player in the push for Batman to serve as, in essence, the antagonist opposite Henry Cavill’s Kal-El in the Man of Steel sequel, partly due to Snyder’s own love for the character – which, to no small degree, was strengthened by his admiration for how Frank Miller’s The Dark Knight Returns comic book approaches the superhero and his world. However, Snyder also emphasized that the idea of bringing in the Caped Crusader to the Man of Steel universe only came about after the first movie was complete (e.g. Man of Steel wasn’t just an excuse to get to a Superman/Batman story):

I gotta be honest, it definitely was a thing that… after Man of Steel finished and we started talking about what would be in the next movie, I started subtly mentioning that it would be cool if he faced Batman. In the first meeting, it was like, “Maybe Batman?” Maybe at the end of the second movie, some Kryptonite gets delivered to Bruce Wayne’s house or something. Like in a cryptic way, that’s the first time we see him. But then, once you say it out loud, right? You’re in a story meeting talking about, like, who should [Superman] fight if he fought this giant alien threat Zod who was basically his equal physically, from his planet, fighting on our turf…  You know, who to fight next? The problem is, once you say it out loud, then it’s kind of hard to go back, right? Once you say, “What about Batman?” then you realize, “Okay, that’s a cool idea. What else?” I mean, what do you say after that? …But I’m not gonna say at all that when I took the job to do Man of Steel that I did it in a subversive way to get to Batman. I really believe that only after contemplating who could face [Superman] did Batman come into the picture.

Snyder also spoke about the many relevant anniversary events connected to Batman vs. Superman – like how this year marks the 75th anniversary of the first Batman comic ever published – before quickly jumping to a topic that he seemed even more enthused about (and one that fans are equally interested in): the new superhero costumes that will be unveiled in the film:

… The thing also that’s really fascinating for me is that, even just in the tests we’ve been doing, the costumes, right? You basically have Batman and Superman — and this is without Ben [Affleck] and Henry [Cavill] in the costumes, but just like the stand-ins, just testing to see what the costumes look like. And  you have them standing there and they’re standing in the same shot — and then we have Wonder Woman, you know, all three of them in the same shot. Even just for a test, you really have to go, “Wow, that’s crazy!” Not only is it the first time that I’m seeing them, it’s the first time they’ve ever existed together on screen in a movie. And that’s kind of a huge deal. Even just Batman and Superman standing next to each other… [I]t’s kind of epic. You do sort of sense the weight of the pop culture iconography jumping out of its skin when you’re standing there looking at the two of them and Wonder Woman. It’s crazy. But it’s fun. I mean, I have the first photo, I’ve got it in my archive because I was like, “Okay, I better keep this, it’s gonna be worth something,” [laughs]!

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DC Comics’ New 52 designs for Batman and Wonder Woman could have an influence on their looks in Batman vs. Superman, much like Cavill’s outfit as Supes takes its cues from the New 52 iteration (see: no red trunks, more armor-like costume, etc.). Snyder, during the same Forbes interview, claimed he wasn’t sure when the official costume reveals will happen, but he expects them to be significant events (much like the initial unveiling of Cavill as Superman was a couple years back):

Unfortunately, I don’t even know the timeline… Because the movie takes place so far from now, it’s hard to know exactly. That all gets tied to marketing and strategies for the movie. It’s not just a free-for-all, which I’d love it to be. Because I take a picture of the suit with my camera– I’m actually staring at one right now in my office. And it’s just massive on my wall in my office and it’s epic, let me tell you! And I’m like, “God, I want to send this to the Internet immediately.” But I know I’m not allowed to [laughs]! I do value the sort of excitement of the way the film is [revealed]… the pieces that are released and sort of trickle out to everybody, and those reveals are exciting milestones for us.

Nothing concrete has been revealed about the Batman and Wonder Woman costumes in the Man of Steel sequel yet, beyond costume designer Michael Wilkinson (American Hustle) offering his assurances that Wonder Woman’s outfit will be “relevant” and Kevin Smith’s promise – based on what he’s gotten to see from the sidelines of pre-production – that Batfleck’s costume stands far apart from those worn by the previous flesh-and-blood Batmans before him. As such, you ought to feel free to speculate to your heart’s desire, with regard to how the DC icons will be dressed in Snyder’s latest ambitious venture.

For much, much more from Snyder – on topics ranging from interpretations of his previous work to his feelings about the “rivalry” between Marvel and DC – you ought to checkout the full interview with Forbes.


Batman vs. Superman is currently scheduled to open in U.S. theaters on May 6th, 2016.

Source: Forbes

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  1. “Not only is it the first time that I’m seeing them, it’s the first time they’ve ever existed together on screen in a movie.”

    This is why I think its going break records and destroy whatever its against, even if it’s Cap 3. And I’m saying that as someone who loves the MCU and thought Cap 2 was much better than MOS.

    But come on, Superman and Batman in the same movie!

  2. If it’s a Man of Steel sequel why is it call Batman vs Superman

    • Ignoring the already oft-discussed possibility (probability?) of the name simply being temporary, a place holder, I’ll hazard a guess: Batman fights (whether physically or philosophically) Superman…? 😉

      • I have no penis, Batman?

    • If we take into account all the articles and discussions and info released from the filmmakers since last year, then it’s clear that it’s not just Man of Steel 2. It’s Part 1 of building towards Justice League.

      The working title (official title hasn’t been announced yet) is Batman vs. Superman precisely because those are the 2 main characters, precisely because it’s not just a Man of Steel sequel.

    • That’s the way Zack Snyder called it. So don’t get sidetrack here.

  3. just another film.. no caracer notihng… i hie snyder gets it right with betetr edits and no fast cuts… ben was and always will be the wring choice.. the film should be betetr though.. hated the costume though. snydr at least change it man.. smh

    • spellcheck? jeez.

    • Dude, you must never comment again…. This comment gave me cancer.

    • Anybody have the Redneck to English dictionary?

  4. I liked MoS quite a lot in the end. Hand on heart, I didn’t enjoy it on first viewing at all. It took until at least the 3rd viewing for me to really get on board with it, but now I’m sold on Snyders vision.

    I can even get behind Batfleck – So long as he’s written well, Affleck will do a good job. Everyone likes to slate DareDevil, but the biggest problem with that movie was the script, not Afflecks acting.

    Eisenberg, I’ll take some convincing on, but I’m trying to stay open minded. He’s a decent actor, there’s no denying that. Right now, I feel like he’s a horrible casting choice, but hey, prove me wrong.

    Gal Gadot though. She still really irks me. I just can’t rationalize it. She’s a terrible actress, just awful. The Fast & Furious movies are a guilty pleasure of mine; I saw the first one at the cinema for my 21st birthday, and I’ve loved them ever since (except Tokyo Drift – there’s no excuse for that one).. Go back and watch her performances though, she’s the worst thing about those movies, and that’s quite an achievement given the level of bad acting. Is she beautiful? Sure. Is she Wonder Woman material? Come on. I’d actually be happier at this point if Snyder had gone with someone that a) looked the part, but couldn’t act, or b) a superb actress who doesn’t have the right look. I just can’t understand what Gal Gadot brings to the role. Hey, I hope I’m wrong, but the casting has had plenty of time to settle in, and I just can’t get on board with it..

    • Ok, I agree with the Daredevil comment. I can still watch Daredevil and semi enjoy it because of the way Affleck portrays him. The script is definitely what killed that movie, not Affleck.
      I’m right there with you on Eisenberg.
      I don’t agree with your point on Gadot though. I don’t think Fast & Furious showed her enough to form a solid opinion on her acting ability.
      I think everyone needs to keep an open mind on ALL the actors until the movie actually comes out. I know everyone throws this out in this situation, but I have to, who thought that Heathe Ledger would make such an iconic Joker? And now he IS the joker for most people. I personally think Mark Hamill could pull it off just as well and I think anyone who has heard him voice the joker in the animated Batman and seen his Trickster from the old 90’s Flash series (that I was sad to say only lasted one season) would agree.
      From your comments, even though you don’t like Gadot, I think you are more one that will keep an open mind until seeing it. This response is more for all those who love to hate.

  5. Yawn, 2016 is still a long ways. Wake me up when it hits theaters . Zzz

  6. just watched captain America 2, and I have to say, batman vs superman has nothing to worry about. Capt. 2 was ok; had good action, good effects, and decent acting. but the overall movie was no better than any other average movie marvel has put out besides iron man 1 and avengers. So many times they try to make you take the movie seriously but yet at the same time defies all logic and pull BS out of their butts. not to mention they seemed to pull the old “is he dead is he alive” trick on about every single character about 5 times each. Sorry I no this isn’t really the place to be bashing it, but based on all the reviews, I had really high expectations on this one and it was a huge let down in my personal opinion… hail hydra

    • I totally agree with you Cap 2 was over hyped. Better than the Avengers my A$$. The Falcon was a letdown also. It was Ok but it could never compare to seeing Batman and Superman together.

      • Hahaha glad to see I’m not the only one. And I agree with you on the falcon, every time I saw him it pist me off because he was always wearing faded jeans and Walmart running shoes… not to mention all the iron man references throughout the movie and they never even give us a Lil quick cameo

  7. I can’t wait for this movie!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. Batman with Iron man technology… Let’s go!!!

  9. At first I mistook his going to the Marvel universe as doing a Marvel movie but seems like he more meant entering the universe through watching the movies. Though we know he almost made a few Marvel movies back in the day lol. As much as I wouldn’t mind that Im glad we have him working on DC movies, he seems to really be pushing for more DC stuff onscreen.

  10. I’m till going with the grey/black suit from the comics. By far the best suit out of all of them shown previously throughout the years. I do believe we’ll be seeing more then one suit, possibly a mechanical suit. IMO

    Thank you

  11. Read the entire Forbes article and it is clear Zack has a clear vision and is passionate about what he does. I’m on board for Man of Steel 2. BRING IT ON!!!

  12. I call BS. It was always WB intention to bring Batman into the mix, remember the easter egg in “I am legend”? plus Nolan was brought in to consult on MOS. WB is planning the JL universe just fine. If they would just cut the BS

  13. WHY? Why does Snyder AND Warner Bros insist on ruining this franchise by the Nu52? IT SUCKS and so does their costumes. Make it stop!!!!!!!! I hope this sh*tfest blows up in their faces and someone feeds Zack Snyder his nuts for breakfast. DC Comics needs to follow Marvel more so that can at least know good from bad. DC/Warner sucks and destroys every movie they do now days.

  14. In what world could Batman defeat Superman in a physical fight? I mean seriously…
    When Superman fought the villains from his home planet in Man of Steel, they were hitting each other so hard that they were knocking each other through skyscrapers, into orbit and bouncing each other off of satellites. Period.
    If Superman hits that man (full force) even one time and Batman doesn’t die, I will walk out of the theater. He is not in an “Iron Man” suit.
    Maybe he has kryptonite? But if that man does have a piece of kryptonite on him, there really won’t be a fight will there? Unless Batman pulls it out after they start fighting… But if they start fighting without the kryptonite already out, then Batman is dead.

    • In what world could batman beat superman? in a stupid snyder film

      • Skill is EVERYTHING you need to win a fight. Clearly you guys know nothing about winning fights.

        • Sure we do! When in doubt, bring kryptonite

  15. All I want to say and I hope the right people hear that Christopher Reeve and John Carpenters music are the backbone of modern Superman. Man of steel finished in the Reeves form which is gold but the music is as much him as the music is Star Wars. I really enjoyed Superman returns because it really tapped into the Reeves movies history and that needs to come back. I LOVED man of steel but the people that have loved and grown with these hero’s on the big screen want the love to live on. Enough said.

  16. This is completely overhyped and gonna suck bad. Fanboys just wanna see Batman beat Superman w help of gadgets and kryptonite while taking advantage that Superman is too good to kill him? The hell? This is so meh