Hans Zimmer ‘Might Not Feel Right’ Scoring ‘Batman Vs. Superman’

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For Man of Steel, Hans Zimmer took on the task that many Hollywood composers would outright refuse: attempt to craft a Superman score that would somehow be able to stand outside of John Williams’ iconic shadow. His solution was to work with director Zack Snyder to craft something not better, but different.

The new Superman theme gave many goosebumps, but it seems that Zimmer is in no hurry to sign on for the sequel, Batman vs. Superman. In a recent interview, the composer explains why he’s unsure, and why a return to Batman “might not feel right.”

This news is anything but a bombshell, since Hans Zimmer isn’t exactly in need of work, and made it clear from the very first announcement that the dark knight would appear in a Man of Steel sequel that he “thought he was done with Batman.” For his part, Zimmer has supported the decision to cast Ben Affleck as a new caped crusader, but has maintained that a second crack at Batman’s music isn’t something he’s aching to take part in.

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It’s safe to say that for an entire generation, Zimmer has brought a new level of drama, suspense, and quality to Batman’s onscreen appearances, supplying the score for every one of Christopher Nolan’s Dark Knight pictures. With that still fresh in his memory, Zimmer explains to Vulture that he has serious reservations, and at this point is leaning towards not revisiting Batman, in whatever film he may appear:

“Honestly, I’m just sort of grappling with that right now… Quite seriously, the thought right now is that no, I don’t want to go and take what I did with Chris and just plonk it into another movie. There isn’t one good reason to do it, and there are so many good reasons not to do it.”

Besides supporting director Chris Nolan and Christian Bale in their belief that “three Batman films were enough,” Zimmer’s comments make a strong case for why a new Batman – specifically set in the far more optimistic, hopeful world created by Zack Snyder – should be left to a new composer.

That being said, Zimmer has the luxury of choosing whichever projects he wishes. And after a strong experience working with Zack Snyder on Man of Steel, there may be reason to hope that Zimmer will bring a completely different take to Batman in the upcoming sequel. But much of that depends on the direction Snyder wishes to take Bruce Wayne; and while Batman vs. Superman production may be progressing faster than some might expect, it seems Zimmer has yet to even meet with Snyder about continuing their relationship:

“I really enjoyed working with Zack Snyder, so part of it would be a personal decision… At the same time, I wouldn’t want to put the ideas I used in the Chris Nolan Batman movies into a Superman movie. It just wouldn’t feel right.

“I’m a procrastinator, and right now, I don’t want to make a decision… Zack hasn’t talked to me about it, so I don’t have to worry about it! I’ll worry about it when I have to worry about it, and then, if I’m lucky, I’ll have an idea. If I have an idea, I can do something with that, but if I don’t have an idea, then my good idea is going to be, ‘Get somebody else.’”

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At this point, the overwhelming evidence seems to support the idea that Snyder and screenwriter David S. Goyer’s idea for a new Batman in a Man of Steel universe is very different than Christian Bale’s. Ben Affleck explained that was mainly the reason he accepted the role, so if Snyder is as good at making a story pitch as that would imply, that same pitch might just be able to get Zimmer’s creative juices flowing.

We’ll have to wait and see, but if we’re honest, having another composer step into Zimmer’s role would be a bit of a disappointment. His scores are some of the most iconic in recent memory, and the idea of having him shape the sounds of a Superman trilogy is too tempting to pass up. Hopefully, he’ll feel the same way.

What do you think of Zimmer’s comments? Do you respect his desire to do something completely different, or pass the job to someone who can? Or is a bit of distance between the Man of Steel films and The Dark Knight a good thing? Share your thoughts in the comments.

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Man of Steel 2/Batman vs. Superman will hit theaters July 17, 2015.

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  1. I’m hoping he ends up working on it, he’s more than skilled enough to offer something completely fresh and different for the same character. Here’s hoping Zack’s pitch inspires him like it inspired Affleck. Though if he ends up refusing, no harm done. He’s delivered an excellent Batman AND Superman soundtrack already so we have those. Also, wouldn’t the sequel somewhat use Man of Steel’s soundtrack? I mean, the whole Dark Knight trilogy mainly used the same music.

  2. I kinda feel for Hans Zimmer. He’s in quite the dilemma; He has succeeded in introducing a superb new Superman theme. And he’s ALREADY succeeded in scoring the latest Batman theme.

    Now what can he do? Re write ANOTHER NEW Batman theme?

    He’s in a tough corner.

    If it weren’t for Batman being in the MOS sequel, I have no doubt he’d be stoked to score the next MOS flick.

    It will be very interesting to see how Zimmer and Snyder deal with this quagmire.

    • I can’t say that I would blame Zimmer for passing on a Batman vs. Superman film. Knowing Zimmer’s dislike for rehashing old ideas, the thought of a fourth Batman film makes very little sense for him. I think it says a lot for his working relationship with Chris Nolan that he was even willing to do three Batman films.

      His score for “Man of Steel” was brilliant, and exactly what that film needed to set it apart from all the previous Superman films. I don’t think it’s likely we’ll see a new composer for the sequel straying too far from the themes Zimmer created.

  3. I’d pass if I was him, the money isn’t enough. Also, Getting someone else to score it would be better, for everyone involved.

  4. I couldn’t care less! The Dark Knight theme was cool, but TDKR was so horrible it ruined the trilogy for me. I liked Man of Steel, but the new them wasn’t that good! Ask yourself if you can hear the new theme in your head right now? Can you hum it?! Now that Affleck is going to play Batman that’s just another reason to not care.

    • Humming it right now!

      • Also humming it.

        • hum hum hum hum badadadum, badadadum, bum!

        • +1. Wasn’t too big a fan of the movie, but by God that score was beautiful.

          • I have to second that. It’s a good movie that could’ve been better. But what really stood out for me was the soundtrack, it fits perfectly to what’s happening on screen and is just downright beautiful. Bought it as soon as it was released.

    • It’s more than humming. It’s a rocking.
      A rocking of the soul from its foundation.

      • The ‘This is Clark Kent’ track on the soundtrack is awesome too. I actually put it on repeat some times when going to sleep lmao. The Man of Steel theme is also great, slow piano piece and soon builds up. Simple but very effective.

        • That’s a fav of mine too, ColdSc.
          It’s kind of a ballad for Superman.

    • @wil_stryder Are you kidding me! Dude! you just prove to yourself and everyone here of your shallow sense of music. The ability to hum the music easily to yourself doesn’t dictate whether or not the music or score is great!

      Your like one of those millions of people out there who like music just simply because it has a catchy memorable beat to it. That they can “hum” it!?! lame.

    • Honestly, I can’t remember the music at all, so I get wil_stryder’s point. I didn’t care for the movie and the music (what I remember of my impressions) struck me as pretty generic, like the ASM music, but maybe not that bad. I plan on renting it once it’s released on DVD. I try to give these movies a second chance.

      Zimmer would have a difficult task of coming up with another Batman theme if they want it to be different. What will they do. Go completely different, or make it similar?

  5. I want Zimmer to just do the superman part of the score. partner up with somebody else that is wlling to do the batman theme

    • I think that’s a good idea, and use the partner to do the solo Batman film soundtracks. Makes the most sense if you ask me.

      • Ramin Djawadi

    • HANS ZIMMER VS JAMES NEWTON HOWARD

    • I’ve been waiting for someone to come to that alternative. A collaborative effort in its own right, wile allowing Zimmer to maintain his score for man of steel (which was excellent).

  6. I’d like to see him take on the challenge. But I would totally understand and support his decision not to do it given the circumstances.

  7. I’ll respect whatever decision Zimmer makes. I hope he decides to do it though because the idea of someone else doing it makes me nervous.

  8. If Zimmer wants out, they could bring in Danny Elfman. He did great with Burton’s Batman films & Raimi’s Spider-Man scores could be good for Superman.

  9. Zimmer is looking at this as though the glass is half empty. Lets look at the positives here.

    This version of Batman is going to be a bit different than Nolan’s to say the least. How often does a composer have the opportunity to completely redefine something he himself worked so hard to create? It’s just such a unique challenge, and it’s kind of appealing when you look at it like that.

    As Screenrant says though, the man is not wanting of work. I’m dying to hear what he’s going to do with TASM 2. The slightly modified version played during the SDCC footage was pretty cool.

  10. *I also didn’t mean to dismiss the work of James Newton Howard. His contributions to the score certainly helped craft the overall product.

  11. The idea of Hans scoring this film with someone else is a great point. His take on scoring man of steel was one of the best aspects of the film but redoing something he’s already done probably isn’t worth the money to someone whose already got truck loads from his previous work. For any of you who haven’t seen/heard it, you should check out his score of “the burning plain” that he did in collaboration wih Omar Rodriguez of The Mars Volta. They worked so well together and having a similar situation for this movie could bring a whole new element to the film. The person that comes to mind for me would e Clint Mansell, he’s already made one of the most iconic score pieces of this generation and could be a good make opposite Hans.

  12. Partnering with someone would be the best idea, since he knws what people might look for in a batman theme but have someone else`s idea or apporch,just let him focus on superman, but since they are starting over maybe someone else should take the reins…

  13. Hmmm I wonder whose music they used for Superman 75th short?

    • Williams and Zimmer

    • Correct link, hopefully:

    • No. I’ll find another working link.

    • Here we go:

  14. Bringing johnny Elfman and john Williams would be a good idea!

  15. Zimmer’s a solid composer. TDK’s score was good. But TDKR’s score was self-indulgent bombast that drowned out 22% of the dialogue. Best that Zimmer gives his ears a rest.

  16. At least he is being honest with himself…gotta respect him for that. Yes, if he is not comfortable doing the score, then someone else should do it. Gotta be able to put your whole self into something epic like that.

  17. how about Danny Elfman.

  18. Hans will do this. And it’s not just this. And that’s the issue.

    Doing this also means doing solo Batman and Superman films.
    At least that is how Warner Brothers would like it playing out.
    And Hans has done Batman before. Doing it again is daunting.

    More than a one film commitment makes this a much bigger decision
    particularly for a talent in such high demand and his availability for
    other projects will necessarily be limited should he indeed commit.

    Yes, Zack has not talked to Hans about it. About the music,
    not the doing it. Hans knows Zack wants him back again.

    And once Hans sees where the film is going, the kind of
    very different Batman from Nolan he will see, Hans will
    be liberated from his torments and have that idea he
    senses he would need for him to score this movie.

    There is a negotiation going on here too.
    Hans showing hesitation and a willingness to
    walk is, of course, the best hand for him to play.
    Hans deserves a big payday. Hans should insist on it.

  19. If he wants to ever compose another film for Christopher Nolan, he should pass.

  20. Oh, God, PLEASE, Hans Zimmer, say no, and walk off the project! Zach, give Tyler Bates a shot. Even better, give DC Animated Universe Original Movie composer Christopher Drake, whose scores to “Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Parts 1 and 2″ were phenomenal, his first live-action comic book flick!

    • Yes, but keep the zimmer music for superman.

  21. The pitch to Zimmer should be treat Batman as just another character. Leave the new Batman theme to another composer be that in a JLA movie or Batman solo film.

  22. Zimmer scored the Dark Knight Trilogy too? I didnt know.
    God! I agree with him, he better step out for this one and better yet, for any future films. at leat featuring Batman.

    Its so easy and many people think the same…
    To make a good Batman and a good score, Snyder needs to turn his head on Burton´s Batman films.

    Actually we already have a “tired and weary but experience batman” – that was Michael Keaton.

  23. It doesn’t seem to be about money. More like Snyder and Zimmer don’t get along that well. Why would anyone pass up the chance to merge “really phenomenal scores” from both movies (DK and Man of Steel) as most of you claim? :) And it’s one of the biggest upcoming superhero movies ever. Why pass up on that? Any artist would find it a true challenge. Since we’re comparing…John Williams wrote music for 6 Star Wars movies. Did he ever say: Nah, pass. Been there done that.

    Also…people only commend the score when the movie is a success but we never really say “what terrible music!” even if the movie sucked or “the music saved the movie”. I thought After Earth and even Lockout (did anyone even watch this?) scores was pretty good. But who else noticed, right?

    At best, Zimmer’s scores are percussive (those of you humming it sound like humming drums haha). It does set the mood well and does the job but it would be great to hear someone else’s music. There are plenty of amazing musicians out there, minus the common ones mentioned here, who can do the job. :)

  24. Bear McCreary anyone?

  25. I listen to a nine minute score from MOS on a daily basis. An awesome soundtrack.

    I could see Affleck as batman with Justine Timberlake as Robin in a camped up tv series that is a tribute to the Adam West Burt Ward series from the 60′s so I know what they mean that it won’t be like Bale’s Batman.

  26. This project is doomed anyway….

  27. “idea for a new Batman in a Man of Steel universe is very different than Christian Bale’s.”

    And THERE is the single-most outrageous mistake in cinematic history. Ignoring the TDK trilogy in favour of a new take on Batman for the shared universe is essentially like rebooting Iron-Man for The Avengers. If RDJ’s Iron-Man had been rebooted for the join venture movie, the entire franchise would have been rendered pointless by now. And THAT is exactly what these people at WB / DC are going to do with the DC universe…

    I’ve made up my mind… if they are stupid enough to flush the most succesful comic book trilogy down the toilet, I won’t be accepting Batman vs. Superman or any subsequent JLA movie. Either TDK is part of the mix or I’m out. Nuff said…

    • actually, there is a good chance Iron Man will be recast in the future, as RDJ has only signed on for Avengers 2 and 3, but not any more Iron Man movies. Screen Rant reported on this earlier this year: http://screenrant.com/robert-downey-jr-replacement-iron-man-war-machine-movie-blade-reboot/

      http://screenrant.com/robert-downey-jr-signs-avengers-2-3/

      And WB didn’t particularly want to reboot, but Nolan and Bale refused to do any more movies. But guess what, the amazing thing is that Batman is such an awesome character there can be more than one valid interpretation of him! TDK trilogy will always be there to go back to and re-watch, but those who truly love Batman will never object to seeing more of him (also, wasn’t one of the points of Nolan’s movies that Batman was a symbol and could be anyone?). I for one can’t wait to see what’s next!

  28. What if Mr. Zimmer was to work with another composer on this project. Similar to how he worked with James Newton Howard for Batman Begins and The Dark Knight. Zimmer writes the Man of Steel music and the other composer writes the new Batman theme. The would write music seperately and when combined you get one hell of a score…???

  29. Why do either Batman or Superman need a new theme? Daniel Craig’s Bond still has the SAME theme music as all the others. Producers and directors need to give us some credit. it is the same character, despite reboots or restarts. Man of Steel needed the John Williams theme. It just would have enhanced an already terrific film.