Comments on: Chris Nolan On Batman 3: Worth the Wait?

By: Christopher Nolan Sucks

Christopher Nolan Sucks — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 23:13:53 +0000

I'm sorry. TDK was for wannabe Batman fans who have no fealty to the source material and think in linear, non-abstract ways. They are the people who fall for gimmicks when a storyteller incorporates gratuitous time-consuming flashbacks to compensate for a lackluster narrative; or decides to dress Dorothy of Oz in chains and leather like some futuristic biker whorelita. I have loved Batman and Joker all my life — and I saw a second-rate, gimmicky director turn the Clown Prince of Crime into a perfunctory, classless villian. Anybody who could afford a ticket can claim to be a Batman fan. Warners doesn't care if the product they put out there is faithful to the source material as long as it makes a buck. I'd watch Nolan's films over Shumacher's… but time will reveal them to be shallow drivel. The great Batman film has yet to be made. I can't wait till Nolan is off Batman (who cares about box office numbers? You think quantity proves quality? It just shows me how delusional and empty people are).

By: Christopher Nolan Sucks

Christopher Nolan Sucks — Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:13:53 +0000

By: chris

chris — Sun, 16 Aug 2009 02:30:21 +0000

this is a late response i know but the caped crusader? come on…… i think the dark knight returns would be a grest title cuz hes on the run frum the law and under the radar… think of it this way if hes runnin frum the law hes dissapeared crime is at high again since hes been gone…. now he comes bakk in the next movie… and so he returns…. and playing into the comic if they wre to have the joker return played by a different actor this would play into the comic…. batman could break his rule as he did in that comic… and speaking of harley quinn maybe he while in arkam makes friends with sum other psycopathic girl who worships him and she escapes with him… thats what i think would be a good story plot for da sequel whenever it comes out… oh ya and eddie murphy as the riddler? i hardly think that anyone could take him seriously in a movie of this high of a magnitude….

By: Paul

Paul — Mon, 03 Aug 2009 21:25:00 +0000

Calling it Batman: The Caped Crusader is kind of
weak if you asked me. I never liked that alias for
the Batman, especially with Nolan’s darker approach
to the comic-book superhero. The name just makes me
think of a pirate.

By: Amol

Amol — Fri, 31 Jul 2009 03:30:02 +0000

You ARE some fan, somefan!
Yes, even for the most optimistic, Summer 2012 seems to be the earliest we can see The Bat making his moves in a fresh movie. An earlier date is improbable. That unfortunately is the way Nolan works but gives us top-class movies EVERYTIME anyway so …no complaints from me.

By: somefan

somefan — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 18:42:41 +0000

I see this happening Nolan Completes Inception and WB”Warner Brothers” Promtes it for next year, David Goyer Himself states somewhere i read, that there are writing a scripit “as we all wait of course”, if Nolan feels good about turning it into a third film he’ll start casting sometime late 2010 and start filming sometime 2011 for 2012 summer release date.

By: Amol

Amol — Thu, 30 Jul 2009 12:54:36 +0000

Possibilities: Best: Nolan comes back (and then the long-wait does not matter). Worst: Nolan rejects Bat-3 and the next director is anyone of those who HAD previously directed any form of Superhero movie. Just another comic-book movie is not what we are expecting of Bat-3. All Non-Nolan Superhero movies were exactly that. Made for Children.
Environment: There exists a substantial maturity gap between Nolan’s Batman and any other Non-Nolan Superhero (Batman included). Burton’s Batman (1989-82) was not campy but was overly dramatic and hence not so realistic. By ‘real’, here I do not mean ‘Batman is Real’ but mean a world where behavior of humans and rules of Physics both hold true, are reasonable, are not distorted and every aspect of the environment is HANDLED CORRECTLY DEEP INTO ITS DETAILS. Nolan did that and Burton did not.
For example, the two major aspects of The Joker in the critically-acclaimed novel ‘The Killing Joke (1988)’ are: 1. How the character becomes ‘The Joker’ 2. How he behaves after becoming ‘The Joker’. Burton implemented the First aspect correctly and Second incorrectly. Nolan, sensibly, rejected the First to give ‘The Joker’ a feeling of ‘Completeness’ and implemented Second correctly to give Joker the realistic tone. And Ledger has an Oscar to prove that. Nolan’s handling of origins of Batman in ‘Batman Begins (2005)’ was the best ever for any Superhero in any movie. It was deeply engrossing and that resulted in people having developed strong attachment to the character in both ‘Begins’ and ‘The Dark Knight (2008)’. Burton on the other hand, brought the Batman suddenly on-screen without much conviction or justification to it. So Keaton’s performance, bad, decent or good, never had a hold on me. Anyway he was physically GROSSLY misfit as Batman and too much of a jerk to be Bruce Wayne. Females get attracted to smooth playboys like the Wayne played by Kilmer in ‘Batman Forever (1995)’. Burton’s Bat-movies were not bad but were adapted for children, hence more easily comprehensible. Even the critically-acclaimed novels (The Killing Joke, The Dark Knight Returns, The Long Halloween, The Dark Victory, A Death in the Family) handle Batman more maturely. Nolan’s Bat-Environment is a mature one and willing to wait till Nolan gets it correct for the third one going in with zero-expectations and full efforts. Anyway WB is not obliged to give us a Third Batman. So let’s wait.
Action Scenes: Batman attacks are silent, sudden and out-of -the-blue. He attacks to put down his prey in a single blow just like a real bat. Keeping that in mind, the fights in ‘Batman Begins ‘ by Nolan were a correct approach and I DON’T want to see Batman visibly clear during fights as in TDK. Anyone interested in sadistic More-Slam-Bang approach should stop watching Nolan Movies and start watching Van Damme and John Woo movies.
The Joker: The Character is always Larger than the Actor. Somebody will surely take Ledger’s place someday, …but at least not in future Nolan Bat-series. The Joker has MADE HIS POINT in TDK and his arc is over and done with. A mention of him in Bat-3 is no problem but even a single minor glimpse of him being alive in Bat-3 will definitely affect the Ledger’s Joker negatively, even though a little. This is the Movies, not the forever-going Comics/ Novels. Let’s get Penguin (No Man’s Land), Black Mask (War Games), Bane (Knightfall) or Riddler(any novel) instead. And yes…, saying that Ledger’s Death was the reason TDK made it to the Fourth Place of All-Time World-Wide Box Office is like saying Titanic(1997) made it to the top because that chick went nude in that scene. TDK was appreciated by both critics and public alike for everything in it. Titanic had only outstanding ‘Direction’ and ‘Technical Achievements’ as its Plus Points. Waiting for ‘Inception (2010)’ …

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By: 37 radius

37 radius — Fri, 10 Jul 2009 00:21:44 +0000

Oh COME ON Nolan. I was going to become a huge fan of your films but you ruined it with some awkward parts in your second Batman. Also your second film was disappointing, there was not enough action in there also the way you did your characters felt like cold gravy. There`s no way i can become a fan of your films unless you recover from some of the mistakes you made in The Dark Knight and provide some sort of intense sequencing with the flying and the air coordination to make me feel the pound on Batman and the gossiping villains. PLEASE MAKE THIS FILM THE MAXIMUM YOU CAN DO WITH BATMAN.

By: Chris

Chris — Mon, 06 Jul 2009 18:51:12 +0000

There’s about 5,000 of these movie sites that continuously put out these bogus quotes. “A source said…” Please. I’m not believing that again. Remember when “a source” said that Nolan’s signing on to do Inception meant he was doing Batman 3? Remember? A source said so. It must be true? But wait turns out that wasn’t true. These “sources” are a lot like those sources in gossip magazines like Us Weekly and People Magazine. Yet once again a source comes out and says some new quotes from someone inside WB. People are milking this Batman 3 thing a lot because they know people such as myself are eager to find out if and when there’ll be another movie.

I hope Nolan comes back, but honestly I don’t know. And I sure as heck am not putting all my chips on trusting these quotes.

By: Matt

Matt — Wed, 01 Jul 2009 09:38:50 +0000

I personally am willing to wait a few more years if it means the third movie will be as good as batman begins and tdk. I think a break would do them some good, there is no hurry and no reason for nolan or anyone else to give in to the pressure. The movie will never top dark knight money-wise or even as far as villains go, they need to come up with an entirely different villain. Joker was a psychopath who had no motive, maybe this time they can have a calm, almost sane villain who has a very clear purpose, like Ras al Ghul in the first one. But if it means waiting an extra year or two to finally get a batman trilogy, then so be it. They need Chris Nolan and replacing him just to make a deadline is unacceptable.

By: thandrale

thandrale — Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:03:14 +0000

I’d like to see Man-bat as the main villain and a teamup with Catwoman to catch him. After all you need a cat to catch a rodent. Even a flying one. This would be a very dark gothic horror type film.

By: The Bob

The Bob — Fri, 26 Jun 2009 19:34:20 +0000

I personally don’t want to see anyone else play the Joker in future with this franchise. Johnny Depp would be great as The Riddler. He could definatley pull of the narcississtic personality that would be required to pull this off. I don’t want to see a Robin or Batgirl either. I like Batman solo, but that’s just my humble opinion.

By: AngieBooth

AngieBooth — Thu, 25 Jun 2009 02:40:07 +0000

I would wait as long as it takes for another Chris Nolan Batman movie. I’ve been a huge Batman fan since I was little and ‘Batman Begins’ and ‘The Dark Knight’ just blew me away. I hope Chris Nolan comes back or they just forget about finishing off the trilogy. I can’t imagine anyone else making a Batman movie even close to ‘Batman Begins’. As for the Joker, don’t bring him back. He doesn’t need to be in the next movie. He could just be in Arkham. Bring in a villain that hasn’t been used in any of the movies (PLEASE). I wouldn’t even mind Robin cuz I know Nolan could pull it off. Of course, I’m dying to see Nolan’s Batgirl or Catwoman. We already saw little Batgirl

By: ricardo

ricardo — Tue, 23 Jun 2009 06:24:19 +0000

Hello, first time commenting!
Originally i was not a huge fan of batman. I mean i used to watch the cartoon in the 90’s and did enjoy tim burton’s batman movies. (i was a huge fan of the xmen) but once nolan came out with batman begins i was hooked. I loved his real world take and the psychological factors that he presented in the first movie. and i was glad that he continued that with the dark knight. What i like about his movies is that they are smart. And seeing his other movies i’m sure if he were to helm the next one it would still be great. I’m hoping he still keeps the ideological play that joker introduced by using harley quinn as the main villain, as his accomplice and sort of substitute while he’s in arkham. It would probably be the best way of keeping that element yet without having to cast someone else as the role. i also think that female aspect would play well since bruce would be vulnerable after having lost rachel. Just my two cents, either way, i’m hoping that Nolan does return and that they do take there time in producing the next one. Whats one more year of a difference than the last time it took for production?

By: tasouli

tasouli — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:38:23 +0000

…and I hope Lebron comes to NY…2010!!!!!

By: tasouli

tasouli — Mon, 22 Jun 2009 15:37:24 +0000

when bale signed on for the batman films tehy made an agreement that there would be NO robbin in the movies…so need not worry.
it doesnt matter what nolan or fans or any1 wants there WILL DEF be a third film because thats how movies work..

Ass I have said before there is much to do in a 3rd film and now Bruce really only has alfred. I say if this is indeed the last film have the the villain of teh next movie (penguine or Riddler I am sure) kill off Alfred. In doing that then Wayne WILL trully be alone (Fox doesnt count) and he will have to prove that what a selfless hero really is by continuing to fight and NOT give up even though he has nothing left to lose…there is still many MANY ways to do a 3rd film that CAN work

By: Blaze

Blaze — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 22:43:07 +0000

I agree with you Fenix but if they was to bring in Robin and Batgirl I say make them kids not adults

By: Fenix

Fenix — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:55:32 +0000

Yes absolutely buddy, seeing Batman hurt evading the law at the closing of TDK was priceless. More of that would add to the darkness of the films and really test his strength as a hero. I also agree with a comment on another post that the title should in fact be The Caped Crusader.Definitely no Robin or Bat girl characters! Villain wise I feel maybe he could explore different choices than whats been portrayed on screen. But maybe the Riddler would be good even though we’ve seen Jim Carrey do that… haha. If they did that well than they could pull it off and maybe throwing a more realistic version of bane (if they could do that) would be cool.

By: cantizzle

cantizzle — Sat, 20 Jun 2009 09:47:19 +0000

i agree with fenix, maybe reference him being at arkam (spelling?), but get a new villain. i just wathced TDK again tonight, and they have a direction, because now Batman is on the other side of the law, since he asked commisioner Gordon to proclaim him a villain. maybe start with him being chased down by the law and then cleaning the slate fighting the new villain.