‘Amazing Spider-Man’ Producers Talk ‘Venom’ Movie & Spider-Man Joining ‘The Avengers’

Published 3 years ago by , Updated June 11th, 2012 at 11:33 am,

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The press junket for Amazing Spider-Man provided producers Avi Arad and Matthew Tolmach with an opportunity to discuss such topics as the Venom movie spinoff, and how it will imitate TASM‘s modernized, grounded portrayal of the Spider-Man universe.

Arad and Tolmach also hinted at their intention to follow Marvel Studios’ example and maintain narrative continuity between all upcoming Spider-Man films (similar to the planned DC superhero universe). Furthermore, Marvel’s Avengers success has increased the likelihood of a cross-over featuring Spidey, according to Arad.

Here’s what Arad and Tolmach told Crave Online, with regards to the Venom spinoff:

“As you know, Venom [in the comics] is defender of the innocent. The only guy he really, really hates is Peter Parker, Spider-Man. The reason you didn’t see more development on Venom in the comics is because this power that he was given, he knew who Peter was, he knew who Spider-Man was, so go kill him already. We always struggle with storylines and you see the new Venom books. It’s Flash in Iraq. We know that if we put him in a certain position and concentrate on the human, not on the creature, which I thought was a really good beginning in ['Spider-Man 3].”

Spider-Man 3 was heavily-criticized by fans for not devoting a sufficient amount of screen time to developing Eddie Brock/Venom. It didn’t help that the character was watered down into a stereotypical sleazy photographer, motivated by his own self-interest – instead of the over-ambitious journalist whose suicidal and vengeful desires fuel the Venom symbiote, after he is disgraced in the original “Amazing Spider-Man” comic book storyline. Tolmach conceded as much during the interview:

“The truth is he also deserves his own movie. We’ve been sitting around in a room talking about Venom stories and it’s a really full bodied complicated character, Eddie Brock and this character. Maybe people feel there wasn’t enough of a chance to unravel it, but we’re all in on him.”

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Previous reports that Chronicle director Josh Trank was circling Venom has helped to generate positive buzz, and inspired hope for a more nuanced iteration of the Eddie Brock/Venom character – similar to the anti-hero/villain who defends “the innocent” in the comics. Although that stone was left unturned during their TASM interview, Tolmach and Arad did offer assurances that Venom will “stay close to the bible, stay close to the emotional story” of Eddie Brock.

However, Arad also alluded to the idea that Venom will modernize the character, saying (in a separate interview with Hollywood.com):

“[Pseudo-sceince] is becoming science. All these tidbits about webs, artificial webs, is a huge industry now. Spiderwebs have unique qualities that will be huge for communications, fibers, and so forth. So we have taken the approach that we want to make the huge amazing movie about Eddie.”

Arad’s comments are worth noting, as it’s been pretty much acknowledged by now that Amazing Spider-Man primarily draws from the more contemporary “Ultimate Spider-Man” comic book continuity. Yet, in spite of that, the decision for Peter Parker (Andrew Garfield) to utilize self-made web-shooters seems like more of a throwback to the Stan Lee/Steve Ditko Spider-Man comics from the 1960s. That is, unless you look at it from the perspective that Arad mentioned.

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Pete builds an artificial web-shooter in 'Amazing Spider-Man'

That the worlds of Amazing Spider-Man and Venom will “make sense with one another” in terms of tone and their comparatively realistic design, is essentially a given (according to Arad and Tolmach); hence, the two universes could organically mesh together in a future Amazing Spider-Movie sequel. Arad also offered a glimmer of hope for fans who’ve been hoping that the web-slinger could show up in a future Avengers sequel:

“Everything is possible. If something like that happens, it’s great for Disney, it’s great for Sony. If the right story comes in, we are now working on ‘Venom’ first. It’s our first out. So our thinking is in the right direction. ‘Avengers’ to me was an expected success so I never looked at it because ‘Avengers’ was successful.”

Will Sony make a serious push to get in on the billion-dollar pie that is Marvel’s Avengers franchise? The financial incentive is certainly there – and, as everyone should know by now, that’s ultimately the bottom line in Hollywood.

To cap all that off: check out a recent featurette for The Amazing Spider-Man, focusing on Rhys Ifans as Dr. Curt Connors/The Lizard:

The Amazing Spider-Man swings into theaters around the U.S. on July 3rd, 2012.


Source: Crave Online, Hollywood.com

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  1. This guy doesn’t seem to know Venom very well. I think he thinks he’s an expert after reading the recent series. Venom is evil incarnate. When bonded too long he takes over and the host becomes an animal. Anyone remember them feeding Skrulls to venom during the Dark Avengers? He gave Brock cancer and messed Mac Gargan so badly he was a drooling moron. This is the monster I want to see. Not some “misunderstood” Spidey knockoff. Do him right and make him the monster.

    Now, when Carnage is introed then you can have him teaming up with Spidey. That is the point where he fights on the right side, but he is by no means a hero. Currently he is a weapon for a hero, when used right, but he is making Flash insane as we speak in the Marvel multiverse.

    As for Spidey in the Avengers, I’m not gonna hold my breath.

    • I agree with this guy. Yet it would have the follow a story. That’s for sure. And the idea with them teaming up against Carnage=perfect crossover into a future Amazing Spiderman movie.

  2. I’m all in favor of Sony rebooting Venom and having him kick some Spidey ass, just recast him with somebody who isn’t a 90 lbs weakling and we’re good to go. I do think that a stand alone Venom movie would be a bad idea. People want to see Spidey and Venom go at it. Just my opinion though

  3. Venom would be a perfect villain for the Amazing Spider-man series as he is a dark character and the movies are suppose to be dark and gritty he would fit right it. I would watch a movie with him in it, but i don’t really think there are enough story lines for him. make The Amazing Spider-man 2 or 3 have Venom as 1 villain and devolp him

  4. Hi

    Just seen the trailer for superman on Imax looking really good as a skateboarder I think he needs to be more particular about his music ie top bands like ‘Iron Claw’ songs such as top skateboarders use are Pavement Artist or Sckullcrusher drop the skateboard as it is underground maybe spiderman is too conventual for one We thought the 3D was awesome we don’t usely go but will this time perhaps more underground music next time…………thank you for all the hard work on this movie


  5. Sorry I mean’t Spiderman of course sorry Superman………………..ha………

  6. Used superman meant spiderman………..ha

  7. Why have a Venom only movie?? I don’t get it. Perhaps one of the best villains in the Marvel universe and they are going to make him a ‘do good er’? This is not pleasant news for me, Venom should be a nasty piece of work driven by rage and wanting to destroy Peter Parker. Venom was so short lived in Spidey 3, that was the most disappointing thing about that movie.

  8. to expand the spidey universe, put black cat for another solo film…maybe?

  9. As long as they feature Carnage at the end of the Venom movie[after the credits] I’ll be happy.

  10. here`s the thing that i have to ask you about regarding realism if spidey made a crossover into the avengers` movie world while being in his own films: when any major attack happens anywhere in the world, it goes all over the global media coverage!!!!!!! if you were, hell, the hulk, if you knew something such as a giant lizard attacking an ordinary innocent hometown in any state anywhere in your country, wouldn`t you help spidey or heck even take the creature down yourself, if knowing that the lizard doesn`t stand a chance against you? even if they used lizard again in the next ASM film would this be something you wouldn`t hear about on your local news while you are an official superhero? pardon me, has the films` history not made the avengers official superhero officers?

  11. and i`m not sure how this CAPS LOCK thing will help but WHY VENOM GETTING A SEPERATE FILM??????????????????????? WHY AIN`T THE SPIDEY FILMS `NUFF FOR HIM??? WHAT`S ITS POINT ANYWAY????????????????????????????????????/

  12. A venom movie will be about as successful ghost rider. venom is a villain and thats all he should be, without spiderman he is not going to succeed. avi arad just talks out of his ***, he really doesnt know anything about venom (or spdierman for that matter), if he did, venom would have been better introduced in spiderman 3, since arad and sony are the ones that wanted venom in sm3. arad is just a sleazy movie producer, just in it for the money. that bs about spidey in the avengers is just lies, he will say anything if it gets attention. he previously stated amazing spiderman could fit into the narrative of the previous spiderman movies, which we all know it cant. as much as i would like this new spidey in that shared universe, introducing him at this point is nearly impossible due to so many reasons.

  13. Ok, so here`s the deal. i`ve read 3 or more of the comments you people have posted and it made me wonder if you had a good education in the english language. I might skip your comments if i read something i don`t understand.

    • Dearest expert,

      Your tenses conflict. Have read, have posted = Simple Past Perfect. In the same sentence you say had education = Past Progressive.

      Calls to mind something about glass houses and rocks. Wait, maybe it was pots and kettles. Bottom line -> you = hypocrite.

      • Furthermore, your first post was a run on sentence from Hell.

  14. “meaning that the damage dealt to nyc in avengers would have to be added to spiderman`s universe.”

    did you know the proper way to say that would be “meaning that the damage dealt with in NYC in avengers would have to be added to spiderman`s universe”?

    • Ok, so here’s the deal. While city is a place, it is also a noun so “damage dealt to” is perfectly fine. Also, “with in” in the context you’ve used it in is one word. And finally, you’ve used poor grammar on this comment thread as well, so try to go easy on everyone else.

    • I have never seen someone with such poor grammar attack others for their minor grammatical errors. This is blowing my mind.

  15. hey what`s going on both those comments i posted were supposed to have been the last 2 comments, neither neither in response to magnolia fan.

  16. I think I would literally die of a heart attack brought on by joy should Spidey go into an Avengers movie in my lifetime. Sadly, I doubt Sony will ever give up the rights to him.

  17. SO does this mean that the slated Spidey sequel will actually be Venom? Are we looking at jumping straight into the recent Venom storyline where Flash Thompson is the hero “Agent Venom?” and if so how do we explain where the symbiote came from?

  18. F*ck spin-offs! I think they should just stick to developing the more mainstream marvel characters (Xmen, F4, Avengers, Spidey) to avoid over-saturation of marvel movies!

  19. Marvel / Sony /Disney just HAVE to do something together that brings Spider-Man into the rest of the Marvel Movie Universe ! It’s a no-brainer ! Everyone wants to see it happen !
    Can you imagine the money that would generate for an Avengers sequel ?!?!

  20. fun fact: apparently marvel and sony were actually going to put oscorp tower from amazing spiderman into the new york skyline in the avengers film, mostly due to the fact that a designer doing fx was working on both films. it didnt make it in the end bc the avengers nyc was too fully rendered and close to completion to put oscorp tower in, but they agreed on it and it almost happened!! so who knows, maybe marvel might throw tiny references of spidey in there in another avengers universe film, i think a perfect non direct reference to spidey would be awuick line with fury saying something like “hill, ive got bigger things going on than __________, ive got kids climbing walls and swinging around queens to deal with” that would be all i need to appease my spidey marvel universe tie in.

  21. Hate Venom.

  22. Just FYI, since I noticed a lot of comments here demonstrate the lack of knowlege about Venom. The original Venom, who originated from the symbiote of the Secret Wars, was a dark quasi-hero. The bond with Spiderman imparted a sense of do-good in the symbiote.

    Also, Venom could not kick Spiderman’s backside. The symbiote’s bond with Spiderman also imparted a permanent care upon the symbiote for Spiderman. So as much as Eddie Brock wanted to destroy Peter Parker, the symbiote would never allow him to harm Spiderman. So Venom could only attack Spiderman through the people Peter Parker cared about.

    I’m not trying to nitpick here, nor am I actually serious here. My point is really that there are like 6 different takes on Venom from Marvel, and so there are a lot of ways they could go with Venom in a movie. The rules on Venom are very flexible because of all that schitzo writing.

    • I agree with this comment. There are several different sides to Venom. Personally, I think it would be cool to bring in a hero symbiote *cough* Toxin *cough* when it was bonded with Patrick Mulligan. Unfortunately, the average joe probably wouldn’t know who he is, and one would have to introduce Carnage and Venom.

    • I think a Venom stand alone movie could be pretty awesome if done right….you can have Venom and Spider-Man be at each others throats while still having Venom portrayed as a grey character. A stand alone Venom film needs to happen after the Symbiote and Brock are introduced in an ASPM film though. You could have Brock/Venom fight some sort of organized crime or hell, even have him fight the Punisher in a stand alone and make it a R rated film like the Punisher was and then bring Spider-Man and Venom back together in a ASPM film about Carnage.

  23. hey by the way there`s a movie already called “venom” that is not the spidey venom coming with a trailer already unleashed so how you going to deal with that?

    • Another run on. And then, “so how you going to deal with that?”.

      How ARE you going to deal with that?

  24. Venom? Defender of the innocent? Lol this guy really has no idea what he’s talking about.

    • And think about it. A solo Venom movie wouldn’t be much of movie. I mean what is he going to even be doing in it? Whats the plot going to be? Cmon, you guys can do better then that. But Venom DEFINATLY needs to be introduced soon. The Venom in Spiderman 3 was pathetic. A scrawny little weakling who isnt even that much in the movie is no Venom in my book. He’s suppose to be a huge, nasty lookin dude. Not some little two-f*ck weasel.

      Just my opinion

    • I think he’s referring to the spin-off Venom comic series where he makes himself protector of San Francisco

  25. venom really!!! it’s so dumb. how bout a movie withe spidey, venom, and carnage. now that would be an amazing movie. people just don’t think!!! >=D

  26. if they make a movie of venom then it will probably be a HORROR MOVIE!!! if its not then who’s gonna stop venom or who is venom gonna stop???????????!!!!!!!!!! if they make the movie i gotta see how ridiculous it might be!!! :P

  27. cool a movie of venom!!!!!! :D

  28. in my opinion, a venom movie wuold be more a spin off for spiderman 3, because in the new series dont have time to include venom, maybe a scene with the simbiote crash in the earth, but still dont see a good oportunity to watching eddi brock in the new series or even a figth with spydie or sometime, in spiderman 3 maybe he look weird but if they make a movie of venom based with raimi series maybe they dot need to work to much in the amazing spiderman if they doit they shitting all!!!

  29. Ahhh! I love Venom! I don’t care how, but I just wanna see Venom get some more screen time! :D