Who Should Lead The Avengers? Captain America vs. Iron Man vs. Thor

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It’s hard to believe, but we’re officially less than nine months away from The Avengers, perhaps the most ambitious superhero movie in cinematic history, and the one film that will definitively prove whether or not Marvel Studios’ ambitious plans to weave multiple films together over several years will work with mainstream audiences.

With the recent releases of Captain America (see our 4/5 star review) and Thor (see our 3.5/5 star review), there are no more lead-in films to Joss Whedon’s epic superhero team-up. While that may be a bummer to fanboys who have enjoyed one of the better superhero movie summers in recent history, there is some consolation.

Now that all the solo films have been released, we’ve learned all there is to know about each individual member of The Avengers. In other words, we can finally start debating The Avengers in earnest, and I’m going to kick off the conversation!

In the comic books, Captain America has more-or-less always served as the leader of The Avengers. As such, Steve Rogers will also be the leader of the team in The Avengers film. However, as any fanboy knows, movies are a different animal than comic books, which begs the question: should Captain America be the man who gets to yell “Avengers Assemble!” on the big screen?

In the Marvel movie universe, there are really only three viable leaders for The Avengers: Captain America, Iron Man, and Thor. At the risk of starting a massive argument in the comments, we’re putting each of the heroes to the test to see who would be the best leader for the team.

Here are the rules. Each hero will be rated in five categories: Character, Leadership Skills, Weapons, Style, Intangibles. The winner of each category gets three points, the runner-up gets two points, and the loser gets one point. After five categories, we add up each hero’s points to determine a winner. (Remember: This is just hypothetical. Captain America will more than likely be the leader of The Avengers when the movie hits theaters next year, but let’s not keep that from spoiling the fun!)

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Skinny Steve Rogers in Captain America First Avenger Who Should Lead The Avengers? Captain America vs. Iron Man vs. Thor

Captain America, Thor, and Iron Man are all great characters, but which one of the three has the greatest moral character? Let’s break it down.

As another famous Marvel hero once taught us: “With great power, comes great responsibility.” While all three of our would-be leaders have great power, not all of them exercise great responsibility.

In the Iron Man films, Robert Downey Jr. plays Tony Stark as a hard-drinking, womanizing, and aggressively sarcastic man whose genius is only rivaled by his ego. While Iron Man acts heroically, he doesn’t seem to act out of an innate goodness, but rather to inflate his celebrity and improve his family’s legacy (especially in Iron Man 2). Iron Man is undoubtedly a great hero, but he doesn’t always demonstrate great integrity, which is why he’s at the bottom of the list.

Like Iron Man, Thor is another hero whose ego sometimes kept him from doing what is morally right. Instead of fighting for something worthwhile, Thor simply fights because he’s bored, putting his entire civilization at risk in the process. Unlike Iron Man, however, Thor learned from his mistakes after his powers were taken away. Maybe if somebody stole Iron Man’s suits, he would have had the same epiphany. Despite his redemption, Thor’s initial arrogance keeps him out of the top spot.

The clear winner in the Character category is Captain America. As played by Chris Evans, Steve Rogers is a brave and selfless soldier with an unshakable desire to do what’s right (even though his 90-pound frame refused to cooperate with him). When he takes on the mantle of Captain America, Steve doesn’t let his newfound powers go to his head, instead showing that his greatest strength was always his integrity.

VERDICT: Captain America (3), Thor (2), Iron Man (1)

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  1. Buffy

  2. very interesting article. I also think its clear that Cap will be the leader. But i´m just as curious as Bruce Banner´s role on the team. In some stories he´s just a scientist who works with them and in other, the Hulk is a full member. For a while it was thought that the Avengers movie whould be about the team assembling to take the Hulk under control (still a possibilty). But i like the idea of the Hulk being a wild card on the team showing up unexpectidly when they need him the most.

    • i also thought about the plot with the team assembling to control the hulk. a good plot would’ve been that loki uses the cosmic cube to somehow control the hulk, or separate the hulk from bruce banner and control the hulk. they both rage havok throughout the cities of our beloved country, and our armed forces’ weapons prove useless. so, the avengers assemble! but, i know that’s not the case.

      • I find this plot-point interesting. As we saw in the final scene of Thor, Loki was (assumably) getting the cosmic cube for his own ambitions. It would be interesting to see how the Avengers will “sway” the Hulk. I don’t think it likely, as they will more likely battle some super villain to save the world. As far as I know, a super villain hasn’t been announced for the Avengers movie… so, that card isn’t off the table!

        • At the end of Incredable Hulk, Bruce Banner (Norton) showed at the end that his eyes were turning and he was smiling… Maybe he is in control of the hulk? if so, then SHIELD wouldnt have to kidnap him and blackmail him to be a member or whatever some people think they might do…

          Hulk (IMO) doent need to be forced to join, just asked nicely… :D

          • But even if Bruce does gain control, Loki could usurp that control through magic or the Cosmic Cube. I think it quite possible that this will be the plot of the movie. Eventually, Thor confronts Loki and the Hulk/Banner regains control.

  3. An impressive breakdown. I have no fault with it.

  4. Since Cap has no clue what´s going on in the 21st. Century, I´d say Iron Man is the better choice.

    • i would think so too. this first avengers film will probably have ironman leading, BUT cap serving up as co-captain. the movie will probably revolve around all “unfit” ironman is to being a leader, so cap will take over either at the end or in the second film.

      • I agree, and thought of this allong time ago.

        How I see it: in the movie, the avengers assemble. But who will lead?? I think that (atleast I hope) the three main characters will fight (not physically) this out.
        Presumably shield will choose a leader (probably cap. america), but thor and iron man disagree due to their ego’s and (power?,) they will NOT follow commands. but in the end of the movie or midway both iron man and thor realize that cap is better and more suited to be the leader.

    • Agree 100%!

  5. GIVE ME THE MOVIE ALREADY :((
    I CAN’T WAIT NO LONGER

    • oh poor marti, no doubt u would be a failure in life, grow up and work and make ur own name

  6. Hero wise CA is the obvious leader … But in movies is about the actor … And who is else is better at leading a cast than RDJ …

    • Samuel L Jackson… :D

  7. The obvious choice would be Tony Stark/Iron Man, because he was the FIRST and (IMO) the best leader of the Avengers. He was the guy who gave the funding, the base, the technology, the EVERYTHING.

    Cap would also be a good choice as team leader further down the road (i.e. not in Avengers 1) A man that has been asleep for 70 years and has no idea what’s going on or how the modern world operates couldn’t possibly lead a team of superheroes (it would all fall apart). In the comics – Cap became leader LONG after he was awoken in the present day… During his time as a team member (not a team leader) he learnt how the “new world” works and how the people see the superheroes – after that experience he eventually went on to lead the team.

    Now… Thor? Why is he even on the list? Throughout my many years as a loyal comic book reader I have NEVER seen Thor lead the Avengers (it would just be so wrong ;))

    • He can be our teams figure head but as of on the field barking order when the sh** hits the fan I dont know. IronMan has such wonderful toys but he really does have any strategy. He is more of a brawler with big guns. I believe the Ironman 2 Tony/Rhodey team up against the boss battle best showed that. It was kinda lucky that they were able to defeat Mickey Rourke. IMO none of the big 3 movie counter parts really shows they are ready to lead the team to battle and give orders without being questioned. If I was Hawkeye or BW, I wouldn’t take to kindly to their orders. In fact I’d laugh and call Fury.

  8. captin will be the leader becasue she his the ultimate avenger. he is the only one with the skills to be there leader!

  9. Captain America!

  10. You know who should REALLY lead the avengers? Batman.

    • Hahahaha

    • Until he gets shot point blank or has something thrown at him. His gadgets can only do so much.

    • i want resident evil girl lead dem really, she is soooooo hot damn my

  11. Captain America, who else but? Seeing someone in such patriotic, All-American attire waiting for instructions and not taking point just doesn’t ring true. Plus, Cap’s got the resume. As badass as the other heroes’ adversaries have been, who’s worst than the Nazis? It’s your team, Cap, SADDLE UP !

  12. Good article, I agree. And about Cap being sleep for 70 years or having no knowledge of the 21st century, that’s fine actually. The movie could easily take place a few years after he had been awoke (most likely won’t). I could see Iron Man attempting to lead in the beginning only to have Caps take over in the end. Of course it should happen natural and fluid over the course of the film, not feeling forced and ‘assigned’.

  13. I agree with most of your rankings except the last one. For intangibles, I’d give it to Iron Man because of the genius thing and bump down Captain America because he’s got no clue what’s going on in the present day. When you recalculate the points, that gives them all exactly 10, I believe.

    Therefore, everybody wins! They’ll probably spend the whole movie fighting over who’s in charge.

  14. I would have to go back to the roots, the origin of these characters, which are after all the seeds from which the movies grow, despite the differences between the comics and movies in their upbringing. As a reader from the 60s & 70s of these comics, I would have to say Captain America is the only one able to lead The Avengers properly, otherwise he might become a diminishing minor character being shunted to the side in favor of the flash and dash of the other two bigger movie characters. His overall style imbues leadership (if only our nations leaders and politicians could shine like this!). So definitely #1 would be Captain America. Thor just doesn’t have it, either in the comics or movies. The movie Iron Man does not have the leadership ability as written in the movies either. Having said that, I have always loved Cap & Iron Man in the comics when they are at their heroic best, and in the old comics (60s, 70s again…comics plummeted into garbage in all aspects pretty much after that, across the board and irregardless of which comics and comic companies we are talking about), Iron Man was second to none in the ability to lead The Avengers in Cap’s occasional absences. We are talking about the comic book Iron Man as a respectable #2. Although in the comics, again, only Cap was a clear-cut #1 with his organizational abilities, intelligence, steady-at-the-helm hand, battlefield general abilities and skill. Being a leader in anything takes skill and smarts, even more than “big-gun-power”, and Cap definitely had skill and smarts. Nope, Cap all the way, be it movies or comics. I hope those writing the movies will always remember that, despite their penchant for often seeing how far they can twist “the way things should be” until that way snaps right off! Love the comics (60s/70s, of course), and love the movies (although I would have written parts of them different, to conform more with those comics in many aspects).
    As an afterthought, I might add that when the movie writers took another team leader (the much-beloved Cyclops in the X-Men) and shunted him to the side, the movie became more or less “The Wolverine Show”, and team battles became more or less a mish-mash of directionless heroes flailing their powers about. The movies were fairly good, such as they were, but lacked that team leadership charisma needed on a team such as The X-Men. They needed their “ring-general” (Cyclops) in the field. Jean Grey and the lovely Storm at times practically surpassed Scott Summers’ level of leadership in some scenes, and while the girls might be great eye-candy I would love to have on my arm for a date, the field-leadership of Cyke was sorely missed, and the movie suffered immensely for it. Some people are born to be leaders, and the parts (Cap, Cyke) should be written as such in the movies for them.
    I work for Wal-Mart (17+ years), and I have watched an excellent company that was all about quality customer service, great value for the dollar, top-notch appreciation of our customers (whom I love), and family values and team-work be driven straight down amongst the lavatory plumbing quality, service, and fairness-wise by horrendous policies and despicable leadership on all levels. It is a crying shame, and founder Sam Walton must be spinning in his grave in shock and disgust at what has been done to his company. Likewise, the ethics and morals of our country as demonstrated by our leaders and politicians is awful nowadays, just a matter of directionless power politics, also. The morals, ethics, and qualities of such great former Presidential leaders as Reagan, Teddy Roosevelt, and Abraham Lincoln seems forgotten. Nowadays leadership, to use the term loosely, is paltry. Whence ethics and purpose? The point is, please don’t let this happen to our superhero teams, don’t let the proud and noble fall due to less than the best leadership possible. IE: Cap as Avengers leader all the way (& if a reboot of X-Men happens, Cyclops all the way also)!

    • You need some paragraph breaks in that wall-o-text.

      How did talking about comics segue into a discussion of the nascent character of Wal-Mart and Sam Walton?

      Sorry, Sam Walton was a myopic scum depository who helped speed the death knell of many consumer products being made in the US & helped feed the addiction of the US population to low priced crap made in the Far East.

      Without Wal-Mart and other bottom feeder retailers stretching the US consumer’s buying power in unsustainable ways via foreign trade, a majority of the US populace never realized how much wage stagnation, currency devaluation, and inflation was really affecting them.

    • WOW! I read the first 3 sentences and got bored. Hehehe ;)

    • I know I’m late to the party, and you are entitled to your opinion (I say that a lot these days, it seems), but seriously, comics fell to s*** after the seventies? Going to have to vehemently disagree with you on that one. Plenty of good books from the eighties, nineties, and beyond. Heck, I can give you a few reading suggestions if you have the desire/curiosity/time to read some of the books you’ve missed.

      In the interest of fairness, I’m a child of the “modern” era of comics. As a kid firmly in the Marvel camp, I always raged against Superman being “boring” and “overpowered.” Then I read a Superman comic. Then I did my homework and found out about the Crisis on Infinite Earths and the differences between the golden, silver, bronze, and modern ages and their interpretations of characters.

      Man of Steel is, IMO, a fantastic book, and the definitive Superman for me. I cannot stand the silver age version (from the seventies). The story of the “god” (yes, I know he’s not a god, but you get the reference) who wishes desperately he could just be a regular man was much more interesting to me than the “Clark Kent is a performance to mask the true identity” (Superman) within. In fact, Clark is the real personality in the modern books.

      There’s plenty of garbage from these eras as well, but then again, there is plenty of garbage from the time you like as well.

      Okay, enough pontificating for now.

      My favorite hero ever: Spider-Man. My favorite Spidey story: original Clone Saga. From the seventies. So, touche, sir.

  15. As far as the movie and the character’s on screen presence goes,I just don’t see Chris Evans in the leadership role commanding those characters.He’s way too much of a baby face for them to take seriously(I’m talking characters not the actual actors now).

    I would say that none of the three really work as the leader,so my vote would go off the grid and say Nick Fury.Sam Jackson just demands that type of on screen respect that is needed to lead the team,even if he isn’t in the field with them,but he should be.

    Personally,I think that this is going to be one of the biggest flaws of the movie,and I think it will show glaringly when it finally does come out.I can easily see that half of the movie,or the subplot,having way too much to do with who the leader of the team is.

    I think that if the leader isn’t Stark or Fury,it’s going to have a hard time working for me.

  16. well, you know, is like i always sayd: “if you go to the crap, never be alone, because is the crypi crap”, em i right? wll, i pienso que captain mengano is the best and the bas in this terren

    • @ assemble

      Just like Jules Winfield said,”English mutha f#%$&r,do you speak it!”

      Seriously though,I have no idea what you are talking about.

  17. captain america!! or iron man altho thor is bad ass he would be pretty good to lead too =)

  18. Who should be the leader of The Avengers?

    Stark- The one with iron suit.

    Rogers- The super soldier with a shield.

    Thor- The man who has a beard and a hammer in his hand.

    My guess would be Captain America not because he was the leader of the team in the comic books but because he is responsible and more focus where Iron Man is the funny one and Thor is the protecter in the group, willing to save Earth so he can save his love and Asgard.

    Rogers is a broken man where he is living in a world which doesn’t care much about the heroic works of the soldiers from World War 2 and have forgotten them with the focus about money, fame, greed and family.

    Steve Rogers has no one in the world he lives now so I think he stills wants to save the world for a reason.

    This list has examples why these guys want to save the world:

    Tony Stark- He’s doing it because of Pepper.

    Thor- He doing it because he loves Jane, wants to save Asgard as well, doesn’t want humans to pay for the mistakes done by his own brother, Loki and wants to make his father proud.

    Hawkeye- It is a job but in the teaser trailer, he gets more focus and he is in love with Black Window.

    Black Window- As well as a job but she loves Hawkeye too.

    Nick Fury- He is the main guy who recruit the team.

    Agent Coulson- It is his job to protect and serve for S.H.I.E.L.D.

    Bruce Banner-One, he loves Betty and two, he realises he has this power forever so he uses it for good.

    And last but not least, Steve Rogers, he might do it because he wants to save the world just like he wanted to served his country in WW2 and because he loves Peggy but she is a old lady so maybe The Avengers should include Sharon Carter so he can have a love interest.

    Overall, I think Captain America is the leader, Iron Man is in second command, Thor is the bodyguard, Banner is the scientist, Hawkeye and Black Window are the henchmen and Nick Fury is the teacher, well that would make sense since they are all in this together.

    I hope The Avengers doesn’t disappoint.

    MARVEL ROCKS.

    • Banner technically is the scientist,but I think that Hank Pym is going to permanently fill that role eventually.

      • Dude lets face it. After what we have heard about the ant man movie, we’ll be lucky if Ant-Man is even a scientist.

    • Who the heck is the Black WiNdow?

  19. I think you’ve mistaken the movie universe’s take on Thor. He isn’t a “God”. It was clear that he was mistaken for a god by primitive man. And the injuries suffered by his compatriot during the assault on the Frost Giants’ world is proof enough that even with their powers, Asgardians aren’t invulnerable.

    That being said, the root of your point, that Thor has been raised accustomed to the “magical” advanced science that humans on the Movie Universe’s Earth are just getting their minds around, is valid. And considering that the enemy will have fellow-Asgardian Loki behind them, and that at the center of it all is the Cosmic Cube, Thor does seem better equipped to lead the team. While Cap has more exposure to Asgardian technology than Iron Man, he never really understood it, rather just witnessed it in use.

    • You make a good point, although it could just as well lead off into an interesting discussion of, “What does even the Marvel comics universe mean when they refer to Thor and the Asgardians as ‘gods’?”

      While I agree overall with the article’s ranking, I think what it mistakes most about Thor — based only on his movie — is that we didn’t actually SEE Thor fighting because he was bored. Yes, he risked his kingdom and its people by risking re-starting war with Jotunheim — but it wasn’t because it was bored. He thought he had a “good reason” — the Frost Giants had invaded first, and in a disturbing manner (i.e. getting past Heimdall); answers were needed, and from a certain military perspective, Asgard needed to demonstrate that it would not tolerate armed incursions that killed some of its people.

      Now, granted — once the actual fighting with the Frost Giants started, Thor was enjoying the hell out of it. (And he did seem somehow more invulnerable to harm than his companions, but I’m not sure what we were meant to take away from that.) But he didn’t just go start things out of boredom.

      I don’t think that impacts this ranking, though. You could use the point to say that Thor makes hotheaded decisions that aren’t entirely militarily sound, when his pride is dinged.

    • @BKCK The Asgardians are still gods, (that’s why I hate when they’re reffered to as aliens, they are more powerful than little green men), if anything they should be called cosmic beings, and I think it goes like this: regular Asgardians are more powerful than humans, and Thor is more powerful than the regular Asgardians.

  20. One thing to wonder (purely movies, leaving the comic books out)

    Can Thor actually take directions? We are talking about a God here, someone who barely listened to his more powerful father. And remember, we haven’t even seen Thor and Fury interact yet, as Thor went straight to Asgard after getting his powers back. He hasn’t agreed to anything yet and is still stuck in space…

    I find it hard to see a ridiculously powerful, nearly immortal God take orders from 3 (fury, IM, CA) humans. I wonder if this will play into this movie at all, until he is forced to join the team due to the threat where one isn’t enough.

    Once again, this is JUST USING THE MOVIES, which is all the general public has seen.

    • Na, Thor would want to join… he loves to battle and he’s a very friendly guy (in the comics and in the movie – he has a lot of friends and would help them out no matter what).

      Also, near the end of Thor he said to Coulson: “Know this, you and I fight for the same cause, the protection of this planet, and from now on you can count me as your ally”…

      • good point abotu that last sentence

    • “Once again, this is JUST USING THE MOVIES, which is all the general public has seen.”

      Yes. And in that movie, Thor is NOT a god.

  21. if they go by the zavengers EMH then Ironman would be the leader and it works well because CA is still getting acclimated to the 21st century but either way could work

    • in the cartoons it both captain and iron man but mostly iron man cause hes smart and stuff

  22. Superheros with every power is OK as long as they have villains that can still kick the crap out of em (doomsday, zod, braniac, bizarro, Lobo, Metallo… Pretty much everyone but toyman and Lex Luthor lol) but Thor is a badass, I hope we get the classic Thor Hulk fight cuz that would be epic

    • all the villains you mentioned… they’re from DC comics. where are the villains from Marvel?

      • I was referring to his comment about Superman…

        • Who’s comment about Superman? I didn’t see any comments where Superman was mentioned.

          • lol in the article

            • Oooh! Sorry, man – misunderstood ;)

  23. Great article. Just a point on the hulk, I imagine it will be a Bruce banner who has the hulk undetermined control. As was mentioned, Norton was smiling as he was hulking out at the end of his film. Also when they released the avengers art at comic con of the new hulk quesada said that the hulk doesnt look as ripped or whatever since he’s been the hulk for awhile now leading to the assumption that banner is in control of the monster now.

    • It could be that Banner gains control of the Hulk – he then joins the Avengers out of free will – Loki comes along and tries to steal the cosmic cube or whatever, but needs a distraction: he THEN messes with the Hulk’s head and makes Banner lose control…

  24. I still don’t get WHY screenrant even considered Thor as the leader of the Avengers… Iron Man and Cap are clearly the most obvious choices (if there had to be a third, it would obviously be Nick Fury.)

    Come on guys!

    But that little “peeve” aside: well done on the article Rob! :D It was really well written.

    • Obvious but not logical. ;) If based on Movie experience alone CA would be at the bottom.

      • It was OBVIOUS that OBVIOUS meant LOGICAL ;)… no… I see your point, I would much rather want Tony to be in charge. (You’re not serious about Thor though are you? ;))

        Here’s my list:
        1. Tony Stark/Iron Man
        2. Steve Rodgers/Captain America
        3. Anybody else ;)
        99. Thor ;)

        • Im very serious about Thor. (even though the movie was meh to me) They are not calling the Avengers in because some meglomaniac wants to take over the world, they are not calling in the Avengers because some Russian is irked cause his daddy got the bad end of a deal, they are not calling in the Avengers because a cat is stuck in a tree.

          They are calling in the Avengers because mankind is threatened and no one hero can handle it. For that I want a leader with expierence.

          Cap has none and Tony is a businessman. Thor is the only hero (in the movie universe) that has any expierence on this level. Sorry if there is an alien invasion or some other threat that will/could exterminate mankind I want someone that will lay the smackdown with no impunity. I want a leader that has the expierence (it was implied/stated in the movie he has fought/led battles) it takes to do the job.

          The only character (IN THE MOVIE UNIVERSE) with that kind of expierence is Thor. Vote Thor 2012. (hahahah sorry sounded like a political speech)

  25. I have to say for the first movie, Iron Man should be the leader, because Cap and Thor are fish out of water on 21st century Earth and couldn’t lead a team yet.

  26. Well As a Thor, Ironman, Cap, Hulk, and Avenger fan from the beginning I would like to point out that their are a few things that have not been brought into play that I would like to point out.
    1: Cap was not there to help start the Avengers
    2: Shield had nothing to do with the original Avengers
    3: This movie is gonna full of various universe’s (ultimates, whatever)
    4: Thor did lead the Avengers for short time spans. Such as when the Avengers met the X-men (look that one up, lol)
    5: Ironman was the money man, not the government.
    6: I think the Hulk will be more like the new Avengers cartoon. Back to what he was for years.

  27. Funny thing is I thought we were speaking about the movie characters not the comic characters.

    If we are only speaking about the movie characters it would have to be:

    Thor
    Ironman
    CA

    Thor is the only person with any longevitiy of leading (Warriors 3 and Lady Sif) in battle is him. this is based on who he is and the little bits of conversation they had when Thor was banished.

    Ironman has never led anyone however he has run a company. While not the same thing it still is more expirence then CA…

    CA has had No military training except for basic if that. He has had no formal leadership training and we never saw him utilize any leadership talent other than being the first (which makes sense) in line. Couple that with he was only doing it for a few months. The US was in it for 3 years we only saw a partial of those 3 years as he fought Hydra.

    CAs biggest asset was his heart and that does not make a great leader. At least in the books he appears to have had a great deal of military expierence. The movies not that much.

    “Through his extensive military training” I saw no extensive training it was not shown or even implied. He appeared to only attend basic if that.

    Tangability, a god and warrior born beats out intelligence and ‘regular guy’.

    I whole heartly disagree with your assesment based on the MOVIE characters.

    • “Heart? That does not make you a great leader, it makes you stupid” I can hear Tommy Lee Jones saying it now.

      • @Ignur Rant: haha! :D I agree 100%

        And @Aknot: Thor is a reckless (and somewhat incompetent) guy. Thor is the guy who smashes first and asks questions later. He also has no understanding of earth and it’s people (like CaptainAmerica said: “fish out of water”). The leader for the Avengers should be a brilliant strategist at the very least (i.e. Tony Stark).

        • Thor has learned from his mistakes. Im not concerned about if he knows about Earth and its people.

          Thats like saying Tony Stark is reckless and irresponsible. I mean he did get drunk wear the armor and almost kill a bunch of people….. yeah leader material right there. ;)

          Again if its a enslave/destroy the earth type of menace (Thanos, Skrulls, Loki) Stark and Cap can take a back seat. If its an earth bound menace Hydra, A.I.M, The Backstreet Boys, let Cap or Stark lead it.

    • CA has what we call baptism by fire.

    • Cap was the leader of several successful raids against Hydra, as shown in the military montage. If you can get the Howling Commandos to follow you, you’re a natural leader.

      • Or a human target so you can do your job while he takes the brunt. Watch the movie again. Cap ran interference. ;)

        Were they the Howling Commandos or were they people that just met after being held captive and wanted a job/revenge to get done.

        We need to make sure we are either basing it on the books or the movie as they are not always the same. They may look the same but they are not.

  28. the HULK…

  29. If Marvel could tie in Loki actually controlling Banner at the end of Incredible Hulk thst would be clever.

    Even if Tony “leads” the team I think Cap will be the one to bark the combat orders and come up with the on-the-fly battle strategies. Though Cap didnt really come off as a brillant strategist to me in the film besidea going through the front door LOL. But in reality Agent Coulson should be leading the team. He clearly garners the most respect as seen in all his movie cameos.

    On a more important note, I want to see a mead drinking contest between Cap, Thor and Tony. Since Cap cant technically get drunk, I wonder who would take second? Clearly the best way to decide team leader.

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