‘Avengers 2′: Joss Whedon Says Ultron Will Juice Things Up

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When a superhero team features as many heavyweights as The Avengers, it’s a challenge to find a villain to throw at them who will actually pose a threat. In the first Avengers film, Loki had to enlist the help of an entire alien armada to fight on his side, and even they eventually got beaten down. The Avengers are at their weakest when afflicted by in-fighting, but since they seem to have learned to put aside personal differences for the greater good, it will surely take a serious challenger to cause them trouble in the sequel.

That new challenger was announced during Marvel’s panel at this year’s Comic-Con, when writer/director Joss Whedon came on stage to introduce a teaser for the sequel, which would be titled The Avengers: Age of Ultron. The character named in the title is a deadly robot originally created by Henry Pym (AKA Ant-Man), who has appeared in the Marvel comics since the late 1960s and has fought the Avengers many times, in a number of different forms. It was a little surprising for those who were expecting to see Thanos take centre stage in the sequel, but Ultron has apparently been waiting in the wings for a while.

Speaking to Total Film, Whedon said that his desire to see Ultron go up against the Avengers on the big screen had actually preceded his official involvement with the franchise:

“I was pitching Ultron before I took the job on the first movie. I was like, ‘I don’t know if I want to do this, but for the second one, you should totally do Ultron.’ Because he’s been a thorn in their side as much as any other character over the years and particularly back in my history… He’s somebody who can juice things up and he’s a real problem for the Avengers. That’s not always easy to find. It’s not like the Vulture is really going to give them a hard time for 20 minutes.”

Ouch – take that, Vulture. In fairness, while the old bird might be able to rival Tony Stark in the fields of mechanical engineering and electronics, Ultron has the kind of power and durability that could make him a real match for Earth’s Mightiest Heroes. Although Ant-Man will be getting his own stand-alone movie a little bit further down the line, we recently learned that Ultron’s origin story is being rewritten for the movie universe, which means that he could well have abilities that haven’t been seen in the comics.

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The fact that Ultron’s entry into the series has been planned since before the making of The Avengers raises some interesting questions. Marvel Studios President of Production Kevin Feige has said that he and Joss Whedon were discussing content for Age of Ultron whilst on the set of The Avengers, which means that they may have already begun laying the groundwork for the character’s introduction in subtle ways.

Do you think that Ultron will prove to be a worthy foe for the Avengers, or is there another character that you would rather have seen in the robot’s place?

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Thor: The Dark World is out in theaters on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014The Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on November 6, 2015, and unannounced films will be released on May 6 2016, July 8 2016 and May 5 2017.

Source: Total Film

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  1. Anybody think coulson may be ultron of sorts?

    • No dont think so. He could be an LMD since the real Coulston is dead? Think Coulston’s time with avengers is done, he’s got the tv show now.

      • Who the f*** is Coulston? I don’t remember a character by that name fron any of the Marvel films.

        • Then you haven’t been paying attention. At all… ;)

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phil_Coulson

          • Lol nah, I think he was just ripping on me for my spelling of his name…. The “T” is silent, I swear lolol

            • Ah, the good old grammar flame. Oh the joys…..

  2. So… What’s Thanos doing?

    • Thanos is out and about in the galaxy doing whatever (which will prob be explored to some degree in GotG)

    • Why does that even matter?

      • @kyle people want quick resolution to problems/villains? Idk. The shared universe thing is a new concept for movies, since thanos is shown in avengers 1, the expectation is that it would segway directly into avengers2 like so many typical “serial” franchises (for example: Fast and Furious). But marvel is doing it differently, people will have to get used to it. Thanos might never directly be the big bad for avengers..

        • The expectation has been (at least with people I know online and in person) that Thanos would be pulling strings in the background throughout the various marvel films, and it would all culminate in Avengers 3.

          It’s become clear to me that some people haven’t put that together, because I keep seeing these comments “where is Thanos for Avengers 2?” when I’ve never expected him to be the baddie in Avengers 2. I thought everyone knew that the climax of a trilogy occurs in the 3rd film….I wouldn’t expect Thanos to be the main villain screentime-wise until Avengers 3.

    • He’s mackin’ of course.

      • Checkout this fan made Age of Ultron Teaser:

    • @Scotty

      I know, right! Way to imply something and not deliver Marvel. That wasn’t Ultron at the end of Avengers.

      • its always been assumed Thanos was going to be kept in the backgroung till Avengers 3, im pretty sure joss whedon said something along those lines in an interview

      • That’s pretty linear thinking. You actually thought Thanos HAD to be the Avengers 2 villain just because he showed up at the end of Avengers 1?

        • Pretty linear? My bad.

          It wasn’t really Thanos at the end of the Avengers. It was an actor paid by Ultron… is that it?

          • hm?

  3. The Ultron story could go two routes.

    A) Tony, retired, is bored and is building things, like robot servants, decides to upgrade the s*** out of Jarvis until Jarvis basically become Ultron and takes control of the robot servants etc. This forces Tony to come back because he feels he has a responsibility towards his actions.

    B) SHIELD Phase Two begins and they create an army of Ultrons using old Hydra Tech and maybe the Extremis Virus (because remember, that’s supposed to come back too). Of course, they lose control of Ultron, and the Avengers lose faith in SHIELD and break off from them, becoming their own thing.

    • If that happens with Jarvis and everything, I hope they force him out of The Avengers for their own safety. Would be a good parting for RDJ to not have to show up constantly.

      Seriously, you can’t just brush something like that off. Nick Fury would have no choice but to let Tony go for the sake of everyone else.

    • My take on it is that we’ve already seen that JARVIS’ programming was damaged in IM3, so what if that damage continues to spread and influence him. Tony is retired, and I think he’ll stay that way, meanwhile JARVIS will be secretly using Tony’s facilities, and using the Iron Man designs stored in HIS databanks, to design his own suit and transfer his consciousness into it. He will then become evil, make an Army of Ultron robots controlled by him, and/or use his hacking/computer infiltrating programs to cause some sort of havoc with somebodies’ important data. Maybe he’ll mess with SHIELDs’ hellecarrier fleet or something?

      • i think this too, except i dont think tony will stay retired, he’s too popular and RDJ has said he likes being a company man. I personally hope that what they said about extremis returning is how tony becomes iron man again, hopefully bringing ‘bleeding edge’ into the movies, thats what i thought when he said “i AM iron man” at the end of IM3 :)

      • If you look close at the end of iron man 3 where Tony drives off with dum-e at the back, you can see Tony looking in the rear view mirror at dum-e as if he has an idea.

        2.) If you look really close ate scene in iron man 3 where pieces of the mark 42 is being hurled at Tony you can see that dum-e is moving his pincers directed at where pieces of the mark 42 is laying in a way that suggests that he is controlling something (the mark 42), and also the part where stark says I’m the best if yo look very close at the back you can see dum-e removing a piece of the mark 42 that’s stuck and hurling it so hard at Tony that it sends him flying.

        Origin theories for Ultron leading up to Avengers: Age of Ultron.

        -Dum-e has been upgrading his A.I without stark’s knowledge since iron man 1 when he helped Tony build his iron man suits.”You simply rule from behind the scenes. Because the second you give evil a face you hand the people a target.”

        -Dum-e has overwritten jarvis programming turning him into Vision.

        -Dum-e was posing as jarvis when Tony used Jarvis to hack into S.H.I.E.L.D and his A.I was corrupted after hawk eye shot that arrow on the hellicarrier to malfunction the hallicarrier’s systems

        -After the events of iron man 3 Tony builds a robot with dum-e’s A.I to replace iron man and names it Ultron.

        -Ultron is already created and corrupted at the beginning of the movie and pits the avengers against Baron Von Strucker and his men at the beginning of the movie to occupy them while he puts his plans in motion to bring about world piece and wipe out all biological life on the planet using S.H.I.E.L.D’s arsenal.

    • I think your second scenario is closer, and add the AIM angle also. I imagine part of the reason they are ditching that Hank Pym created Ultron is because that simply lacks “plausibility” for a scientist to create some kind of ulitimate intelligent self-replicating technology. I too think it will involve alien technology, among other things, probably what SHIELD has gotten from wherever.

      As I think of it, I imaging Ultron will himself control a lot of technology as well as be a physical force. Which, in a huge way, would make it harder for DC to use Brainiac as a villain. To the majority of movie-goers Ultron and Brainiac could seem to be really similar. The same is true for Quicksilver and Flash. And Marvel will role out Thanos as a full-blown threat long before DC can get around to introducing Darksied.

      • Oh, and perhaps Vision will come about later from understanding Ultron technology.

      • Sure AIM did the revamp of iron patriots systems, they could have gotten some of starks programs in the process. What if AIM creates ultron instead of creating MODOK? I mean MODOK is a man merged with machine after all.. Not that different from a robot whose Consciousness is derived from a digitized human brain/brain patterns.

        • That’s not bad. There were MODOK rumors when it became known that AIM was being introduced. That would be a very dramatic rewrite though.

    • I really want to hear what Paul Bettany’s voice sounds like through a cyborg/robot voice filter.

  4. I think Ultron will be created by Tony Stark using Jarvis programming and brain waves, but a malfunction happens causing him to turn against his creator and humanity. So now his only goal is to eliminate it

  5. So if Stark makes Ultron… Does Pepper become the sort of the replacement Wasp had in thr comics? Insofar as Ultron not being able to hurt her?

    Banking of Stark creating ultron as a jarvis upgrade type deal that goes rogue or perhaps sheild’s misuse of stark tech. Hard to say.

  6. What if Ultron is taken from the future by thanos via the Time gem in the Infinity Gauntlet which he could get in Thor 2

    • So…

      Ultron would be a Terminator

      • Yes LOL

      • Voiced by Arnold! “Mista Stauk, come wit me if you want to live.”

  7. Ultron = Rouge Jarvis

    • [Ultron = rouge Jarvis] => s***** idea

      • Yeah, Jarvis is an A.I. How would he even apply rouge?

        • Lol hed need alot, he’s got a giant mouth lol

        • Skynet? Rings any bells?

    • I don’t know, I kind miss the silvery Ultron, but the gold one looks cool. I’m not sure if I’d be up for a red Ultron.

  8. I’m very excited for Ultron. My biggest fear is we go from the avengers and an army of aliens;to avengers 2 and an army of robots. Now an army of ultrons would be more terrifying but you get my point.

    • Yeah I hope its not the “Block Party Protocol” VS the Avengers.

      Ultron should be messing with technology all over the world in a Skynet style attack. Then you’ve got Thor stopping nuke launches and stuff. Unmanned military vehicles vs the Hulk. And Iron Man fighting an Ultron Starktech suit that is better than his and knows all of the weaknesses of Tony’s tech.

    • Yeah, because if that were the case, the Avengers are in REAL trouble.

  9. Just give us a damn good movie joss.

  10. Yes, Whedon hit the nail on its head!
    I truly want to see a villain that can handle the Avengers and give them a run for the money. The fact that things would not get easier even though there would be more super individuals in the sequel, that death is a huge part of the storyline, and Ultron would “juice things up”- Whedon is heading into a special place for the sequel.

    Like I said before, The Avengers 2 is the film and story that Whedon really wants to tell. He was restricted in what he could do in the first film from a story perspective, but apparently is free to do as much as he can as possible. The deleted scenes and commentary from The Avengers point to the fact and underlines where Whedon intended to all along. The tone is a bit more serious and showcased some introspective moments.

    Ultron being a rogue, corrupted Jarvis is actually an intriguing subject and avenue to take the story. Some may complain about the origins being reworked, but if Whedon has been planning this since the beginning he may have good reasons and a really context to work with this new Ultron that would satisfy his approach into a “darker, more personal” storyline for the Avengers.

    I am interested to see what Whedon has in store for us, now that he telling the story he wants to tell and no longer held back and limited.

  11. I think Ultron is JARVIS going rogue. He already built suits for Tony, and controlled them independently from Tony.

    How do we know all the suits were destroyed at the end of IM3? How do we know JARVIS’s problems in IM3 didnt cause him to go bad some how? Maybe he’s ticked off because Tony made him destroy all the suits? :)

    I think IM3 will play a factor in Avengers 2 more than we might realize. IMO.

    • You know, there was multiple times in Iron Man 3 in which I felt Jarvis was a bit different than what we seen before…

      I mean Jarvis sending Iron Man into Mississippi like that just seemed so weird. Jarvis controlling the suits independently is definitely a big thing to keep in my in mind. Along with the fact that Tony Stark spend most time of the film controlling his suit externally and dependent on the machine, maybe a slightly corrupted Jarvis takes note of the machine being bigger than the man.

      Hopefully Iron Man 3 is not too huge in Avengers 2, but I can see it.

      • I think Jarvis was doing that to protect Tony, keeping him incognito for his own safety while at the same time helping him find what he was looking for.

      • Why does Jarvis have to be corrupted.

        He’s (he’s lol) IT’s an highly sophisticated AI programme.

        Maybe it’s not corruption, maybe it’s evolution.

        And even if Jarvis has some fail-safe Asimov type “3 Laws” built into him (IT), if you’ve ever ready the book I Robot (forget the film, it’s okay but the book is MILES better) then the only logic solution to the 3 laws is that the machines take over…. for our own good.

        And this is the kicker…. for the good of the SPECIES, individuals will be allowed to be sacrificed.

        Which is where you get the conflict with the Avengers because logically they will resist so therefore they will need to be “neutralised”

    • Could be, but Jarvis is supposed to be “normal” (we know it’s not of course but that’s the world they need to maintain) Earth technology. They might want to make it clear that Ultron is way beyond that. It could be some combination of Earth, Alien, Asgardian technology used by some group like AIM. After all, they’ve said that CAWS is the movie that will relate most to Avengers 2.

      • +10!
        Dude! i can totally see that happening!

        -What ever happened to the destroyer armor? if you guys read the complementary comic book explaining what shield was doing building up to the Avengers (i think it was called “Fury’s busy week” or something)
        There you catch a glimpse when shield is taking the destroyer armor n that’s why Coulson had that destroyer weapon when he shot Loki! They could use the metal or Exoskeleton n get Ultron out of there with Jarvis or another Artificial intelligence as being Ultron’s consciousness. :D

        Just a thought.

        • Forgot about the Destroyer armor. Get Scarlet Witch to get it powered up again, then use a Shield knock off of Jarvis to operate it.

          Item 47 short showed Shield reverse engineering the Chitari tech. Plus whatever Shield had worked up from the “Phase 2″ program of Hydra tech.

          Combine all that together and you’ve got a technological chimera that could bring the hurt.

    • If you look close at the end of iron man 3 where Tony drives off with dum-e at the back, you can see Tony looking in the rear view mirror at dum-e as if he has an idea.

      2.) If you look really close ate scene in iron man 3 where pieces of the mark 42 is being hurled at Tony you can see that dum-e is moving his pincers directed at where pieces of the mark 42 is laying in a way that suggests that he is controlling something (the mark 42), and also the part where stark says I’m the best if yo look very close at the back you can see dum-e removing a piece of the mark 42 that’s stuck and hurling it so hard at Tony that it sends him flying.

      Origin theories for Ultron leading up to Avengers: Age of Ultron.

      -Dum-e has been upgrading his A.I without stark’s knowledge since iron man 1 when he helped Tony build his iron man suits.”You simply rule from behind the scenes. Because the second you give evil a face you hand the people a target.”

      -Dum-e has overwritten jarvis programming turning him into Vision.

      -Dum-e was posing as jarvis when Tony used Jarvis to hack into S.H.I.E.L.D and his A.I was corrupted after hawk eye shot that arrow on the hellicarrier to malfunction the hallicarrier’s systems

      -After the events of iron man 3 Tony builds a robot with dum-e’s A.I to replace iron man and names it Ultron.

      -Ultron is already created and corrupted at the beginning of the movie and pits the avengers against Baron Von Strucker and his men at the beginning of the movie to occupy them while he puts his plans in motion to bring about world piece and wipe out all biological life on the planet using S.H.I.E.L.D’s arsenal.

  12. I still believe Pym will be referenced in this film

    • I believe Pym may be in the film and actually have his origins shown as a result of Ultron…

      ..irony.

      • Well they did cut out the reference to Pym in that Thor movie.

    • I believe he won’t be involved.

      They have to make Ultron something way beyond what any one man (even a “genius”) could do. If the Vision is ever introduced it will probably involve Pym using Ultron technology. But the implication will be that Ultron is something involving things beyond present technology (Alien, Asgardian, and Stark teck mixed up by SHIELD and stolen by AIM?).

  13. I could definitely see this scenario happening.

  14. Whedon no longer limited.
    -Darker, more personal story
    -Ultron “juicing things up” and presenting a deadly force to the Avengers
    -Death
    -Hawkeye being explored along with Black Widow greatly
    -Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver- won’t make things easy
    -Loyalties would be tested, and conflicts arise in the team and SHIELD
    -Ultron possibly being a corrupt Jarvis, the Iron Man must return.
    -Ant-Man arising from Ultron’s machination (read: twist)
    -Extremis making a return
    -Thanos still out there doing his thing

    and more yet to be clearly established…

    Joss Whedon loves Ultron, wants to test the team unlike anything before, and go in a direction of a tone that is more serious and introspective?
    What is not to love or be excited about?!

    The Avengers 2 is the Avengers film that seems to be the one I have been waiting for and I loved the first film.
    However, seeing Whedon’s comments and deleted scenes, along with some of my complaints of the film*, The Avengers: Age of Ultron seems to be the epic, character driven event film that I was waiting for that I was only teased in during the Avengers

    *(comedy cutting drama, scale not cinematic enough, time spent “fixing” what occurred in Phase 1…)*

  15. So basically this is going to be iron man 5 right, lets face it he pulls the most money from the series if iron man and RDJ wasn’t in Avengers it would only gross 500mil at the box office. Robert Downey Junior will carry Avengers 2 on his back and that’s the truth.

    • What’s your point?

      • His point is that Iron Man/RDJ seems to be THE primary character in any flick he’s in – including the Avengers flicks.

        And I agree. Unfortunately, as long as Marvel and Feige prop up RDJ in any given flick he is in, he’ll be the character that gets the most screen time, the most attention and “the best lines.”

        That’s not the way it should be. There ARE other members in The Avengers, right?

        I look forward to RDJ dropping out and Iron Man being recast. His portrayal of Tony Stark is old hat now, and began to grate with IM2.

        Once he’s out, maybe Marvel will share the spotlight with other characters like Cap, Banner, etc, all….

        • Hey Kryptonic……..

          Get a clue……Downey doesn’t need “proping up”, he gets the best lines and the most screen time because he’s the best actor. He’s THE most bankable actor in Hollywood.

          What are you, new?

          Downey isn’t just the face of Marvel and the Avengers, he’s the face of comicbook movies period. He plays Tony Stark perfectly,and people can’t get enough of him as Stark. He makes everybody around him better. Any Marvel movie he’s in is a guaranteed billion dollar plus blockbuster.

          Get a clue chump………

          Oh, and…..nice skull.

          • Yeah, RDJ is the biggest and most bankable actor, which is why he and his agent get the best deal and the most money.

            And that’s why he gets the “focus” in all these stories.

            Is that the way it SHOULD be when telling a story? It should all revolve around the actor who has the biggest resume and biggest bank account (and ego)?

            A LOT of people are mad because Black Widow is going to be very prominent in Age Of Ultron. The biggest reason, most likely, is due to the fact that she’s second to RDJ in terms of star power.

            But is that way to tell a story?

            YOU get a clue. If you’re a RDJ sycophant, then by all means, kiss all those RDJ posters you have in your bedroom all you want.

            I think he’s old and annoying. Can’t wait till he leaves the role.

            Till then, have a nice day, chump….

            (Original screen name)

          • Yeah, RDJ is the biggest and most bankable actor, which is why he and his agent get the best deal and the most money.

            And that’s why he gets the “focus” in all these stories.

            Is that the way it SHOULD be when telling a story? It should all revolve around the actor who has the biggest resume and biggest bank account (and ego)?

            A LOT of people are mad because Black Widow is going to be very prominent in Age Of Ultron. The biggest reason, most likely, is due to the fact that she’s second to RDJ in terms of star power.

            But is that way to tell a story?

            YOU get a clue. If you’re a RDJ sycophant, then by all means, kiss all those RDJ posters you have in your bedroom all you want.

            I think he’s old and annoying. Can’t wait till he leaves the role.

            Till then, have a nice day, chump….

            (Loki- what an original screen name, lol)

        • I don’t really see anyone dictating RDJ at this point. He stands on his own two feet just fine, and if anything, he seems to be able to dictate what’s done to some extent.

          That said, as much as I loved the first Iron Man movie (huge Iron Man fan), the last two were disappointing, for a variety of reasons. I like RDJ, but his portrayal of Stark is old-hat, and it’s become rather two dimensional (was anyone buying the post-traumatic stress disorder in IM3? I also don’t remember being an ass being Stark’s defining characteristic…he could be an ass, but if you wanted someone who was one constantly in the Marvel Universe…you went with Hank Pym). The sad thing is that he’s still probably the only reason to watch the sequels. I really wouldn’t mind Marvel recasting the role at this point, but whenever Marvel does go that route, I just hope they do a better job with who they have writing the script.

    • + 1,000,000

    • This movie, like all Marvel made movies is ten times better than ANY of the garbage Warner Bros – DC puts out, and eveybody knows it, just look at the numbers. Avengers 2 would make a billion dollars with or without Downey. Downey is the face of the franchise yes, but long after he’s gone, Marvel will still be making billions and billions.

      Hmmmmmm…, who’s the face of the DC movie franchises?

      Oh wait, that’s right, DC doesn’t have any movie franchises.

      • What is it with Marvel fanboys always preaching their success like an evil villain monologue? You’re either the 3rd or 4th guy to do it.

        You’re picking sides in a war that doesn’t even freaking exist. “Duuuuh, this money isn’t going towards Joss Whedon, that means it’s irrelevant and will flop, (evil Porky Pig laugh)”

        Marvel could hire Michael Bay and you wouldn’t give 2 flips about it, you’d be back on the review article saying “At least it makes more money for Marvel, which is anything more than DC’s amount, they’re so far behind, LOL”.

        I’m growing a gray patch of hair because of fanboyism like this.

        • @Ultimate ACW: 007 Reloaded (well that’s a mouthful lol)
          +infinity
          I really get tired of the constant fanboyism and bashing of the other company. This a Marvel thread and NOWHERE in the article is DC mentioned so why the need to bring it up? Each company has it’s strengths and weaknesses. Marvel makes good movies but lags in animation as DC where it’s the opposite. They both have some of the best story arcs (Killing Joke, AvX, Infinte Crisis, Secret Wars, etc etc) They both have a considerable amount of games under their belts, some good some bad. Point is, they’re both good companies. Each has it’s own flaws, and while some like Marvel and some like DC (to each his own) there’s no need for the bashing. Comparing and contrasting, sure. Debating, sure. But the bashing is absolutely unnecessary, especially when one has nothing to do with the thread

  16. I think using Stark’s brain pattern is more interesting from a story perspective than Jarvis going rogue.

    It also works well with Ultron constant need to upgrade himself, just like Tony had to build all those suits. Now, Rogue Jarvis makes sense here too, as him and his lab bots helped to make the suits, but the near OCD drive to constantly improve… that is all Tony.

    I have to say, all of this makes Iron Man 3 even more enjoyable, as it makes a few ideas presented in that film make more sense.

    • Im thinking he does exactly thst. Create an AI using his brain patterns, for an LMD or a replacement for him as Ironman since he wants to move away from the superhero business. It starts upgrading itself etc as his ego etc becomes Ultron.

      • Exactly, he’s already shown he didn’t want to be “the man in the can” anymore. Hell, he literally “phoned in” the Air Force One rescue.

        He also doesn’t want to give up “privatizing world peace”.

        What’s a genius with the most advanced practical knowledge of robotics and AI to do?

        Build a machine to replace him. Being the egoist “The fact remains: I AM Iron Man”, use your brain pattern to do the work only he can do, but doesn’t want to anymore (PTSD, Pepper, pick your reason).

        Of course, Robocop 2 (yes 2) showed us that simply downloading a biological personality into a machine isn’t always going to go well.

        Hell, Ultron Stark might just go rogue because he doesn’t have cock’n’balls… I imagine the real Tony wouldn’t take that development very well.

      • Ultron goes haywire, Fury calls in Stark and the rest of the team, and…..yeah. All hell breaks lose. Even more so when Cap. is brutally injured and on the brink of death. After that, the rest of the team goes after Ultron for what happened to Cap., than after a while, Steve regains consciousness. When he does so, he is, not only able to lead the team to victory, but realizes that his fellow teammates were trying their hardest to stop Ultron when Cap. was unavailable to lead the team to victory.

  17. we have already seen the robot them played out to the max in the first
    three iron man films and iam beginning to wonder that if robots is the only
    thing marvel studios has down to a science. i wonder if putting in ultron
    makes the story smaller as whedon said he wanted, and iam wondering also
    if the special,visual and sound effects will be cranked up or will they be
    dealing with just ultron and thats it. i hope all the goodwill that was builtup for avengers is not destroyed with a smaller avengers movie.

  18. I have a fresh theory on Ultrons new origin after having a quick recollection of what we know so far from previous Marvel films. This came from simply thinking where Ultrons weaponry may have came from.

    In the first Avengers film, Tony Stark asks Nick Fury ‘What IS Phase Two?’ before Captain America answers the question, it being SHIELD using the tesseract to make weapons. One of Ultrons main weapons is that disintegration beam that was fired from his mouth piece, but haven’t we seen something like that already in the MCU? Oh yeah, THE DESTROYER. We saw Agent Coulson use that prototype Destroyer gun on Loki in The Avengers, perhaps that also was a part of ‘Phase Two’? SHIELD could be playing a bigger part in the origin of Ultron than perhaps Tony Stark, although I’m not ruling out that he may too have some involvement. Nick Fury, maybe or maybe not, it may instead be that council we saw Fury speaking too, or maybe even Robert Redfords character from Captain America: The Winter Solider, he did after all say he’s excited about the idea of playing a villain, not to mention the what we’ve heard about that film being the most Avengers 2 related film of the MCU Phase 2 films. Perhaps also SHIELDS ‘Phase 2′ could be a subtle foreshadowing to the end of the MCU Phase 2, which we now know is AVENGERS: AGE OF ULTRON.

    Ultron is a character who knows the weaknesses of nearly every Avenger, he really is the perfect choice for the next villain, as Whedon said he is really one who can stir things up within the team. I’m super exicted that we’re getting a villain who can really take on the whole team at once. Whether SHIELD or/and Tony Stark will be responsible for Ultrons creation, it will be a real trouble stirrer. I would love it if Hank Pym is actually involved with this and who knows, maybe Whedon simply told us a little white lie. But incase he’s being honest, that’s my theory on how Ultron is going to arrive, he basically IS Phase Two.

    • Yes, It could be that SHIELD tries to create some JARVIS-like AI, and then it “steals” all the Asgardian and Alien tech and uses it. Or, perhaps AIM uses all kinds of stolen technology.

      And duct tape. Lots of duct tape.

    • If you look close at the end of iron man 3 where Tony drives off with dum-e at the back, you can see Tony looking in the rear view mirror at dum-e as if he has an idea.

      2.) If you look really close ate scene in iron man 3 where pieces of the mark 42 is being hurled at Tony you can see that dum-e is moving his pincers directed at where pieces of the mark 42 is laying in a way that suggests that he is controlling something (the mark 42), and also the part where stark says I’m the best if yo look very close at the back you can see dum-e removing a piece of the mark 42 that’s stuck and hurling it so hard at Tony that it sends him flying.

      Origin theories for Ultron leading up to Avengers: Age of Ultron.

      -Dum-e has been upgrading his A.I without stark’s knowledge since iron man 1 when he helped Tony build his iron man suits.”You simply rule from behind the scenes. Because the second you give evil a face you hand the people a target.”

      -Dum-e has overwritten jarvis programming turning him into Vision.

      -Dum-e was posing as jarvis when Tony used Jarvis to hack into S.H.I.E.L.D and his A.I was corrupted after hawk eye shot that arrow on the hellicarrier to malfunction the hallicarrier’s systems

      -After the events of iron man 3 Tony builds a robot with dum-e’s A.I to replace iron man and names it Ultron.

      -Ultron is already created and corrupted at the beginning of the movie and pits the avengers against Baron Von Strucker and his men at the beginning of the movie to occupy them while he puts his plans in motion to bring about world piece and wipe out all biological life on the planet using S.H.I.E.L.D’s arsenal.

  19. I’m up for it either way. Marvel has not disappointed me TOO much yet. I just watched the Avengers again, and I still really liked it, so bring it on.

    • Okay, so every rumor for the last month was true??

    • Well, they did show a teaser at the SDCC where an Iron Man helmet was slowly being reshaped in the form of Ultron’s head (I haven’t seen it, but I read the description; I’m curious to see the new design of Ultron’s features since it was originally designed to resemble an ant’s head… ;-)).

      I’m still curious as to how in the world could Stark build Ultron “unwittingly”. How can you build something if you don’t plan on building it? I mean, in the comics, Pym built Ultron on purpose, but he never intended it to go bad. Maybe that’s what they mean in the article.

      Let’s wait and see!

  20. Ultron as villain: superb, excellent idea!
    Pym not as creator, or even in film?: horrible idea!

    Pym not in film or creator leaves Vision out on a limb, slams the door in the face of two founding members (Giant-Man/Goliath, Wasp), and has the potential, because of playing with successful canon, of ranking right up there with phony mandarin and killing Cyclops, Prof. X, and Jean Grey as one of the collosol foul-ups of an otherwise successful franchise-engine. Now with Stark as creator, this COULD work out, but I have some doubts. Without Goliath and Wasp on deck yet, I am even more nervous…we need them, very good back-stories and loyal members of the team. Glad to see at least Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch getting their due. I have great hopes for this movie, really looking forward to it, but also see some things I might not like about it, as I just mentioned. We need to develop Quicksilver, Scarlet Witch, Goliath, and Wasp against the future that eventually we may see an Avengers movie without some of the characters that were in Avengers #1 as they get old, retire, move on to other things, or are “away on a mission”. Personally, although i don’t mind them, I could live without Hawkeye and Black Widow as they are currently written as main characters, or even Hulk (but want to keep the other 3 biggies: Cap, Iron Man, and Thor), if I could have some of the others (notably Goliath and Wasp) in there.

  21. Oh yes, eventual villains I want to see: Kang, Skrulls, maybe eventually Diablo and Whirlwind (as supporting villains). Whirlwind would be a good evil foil for Quicksilver (think Flash versus Reverse-Flash).

    • Oops, and Absorbing Man and Radioactive Man as secondary villains as well.

  22. I think that Iron man’s suit is going to be overtaken by Jarvis and go crazy with no explanation. Shield takes in tony and gives him a vague description. In the background Maria Hill is giving a talk to some people about Scarlet witch and Quicksilver and slips in that all heroes should register. I WANT A CIVIL WAR. Fury tells stark he needs to suit up to defeat Ultron and goes in a new epic mark 43. They are fighting ultron, hes a mark 48. hes nuking stuff, avengers can doing anything because ulton is too strong, ultron destroys cap’s shield and all seems lost. Whedon is going to come up with some dramatic ending to defeat ultron like tony blowing up the arc reactor to kill Ultron or somepin. I would much rather at this point they just beat him, tony finds out that he didnt even make ultron and that they convinced of such so they could defeat the robot. Tony would then proceed to quit, and it appears the avengers are done for good.

    It makes sense for the suits to be taken over by ultron and still be created by Pym, Feige said there was a surprise and Whedon is most likely lying just to get the surprise off the table so it is not discovered.

    In antman we would see hank watching the news and seeing ultron kill everyone, and he is all depressed because its his brain pattering. He gives up the ant man project (would not be fleshed out as a hero yet) and scott lang steals it and is given it by hank. He then becomes the spy antman edgar wright described

    With no shield, cap goes to wakanda to get vibranium and meets up with black panther.

    • If you look close at the end of iron man 3 where Tony drives off with dum-e at the back, you can see Tony looking in the rear view mirror at dum-e as if he has an idea.

      2.) If you look really close ate scene in iron man 3 where pieces of the mark 42 is being hurled at Tony you can see that dum-e is moving his pincers directed at where pieces of the mark 42 is laying in a way that suggests that he is controlling something (the mark 42), and also the part where stark says I’m the best if yo look very close at the back you can see dum-e removing a piece of the mark 42 that’s stuck and hurling it so hard at Tony that it sends him flying.

      Origin theories for Ultron leading up to Avengers: Age of Ultron.

      -Dum-e has been upgrading his A.I without stark’s knowledge since iron man 1 when he helped Tony build his iron man suits.”You simply rule from behind the scenes. Because the second you give evil a face you hand the people a target.”

      -Dum-e has overwritten jarvis programming turning him into Vision.

      -Dum-e was posing as jarvis when Tony used Jarvis to hack into S.H.I.E.L.D and his A.I was corrupted after hawk eye shot that arrow on the hellicarrier to malfunction the hallicarrier’s systems

      -After the events of iron man 3 Tony builds a robot with dum-e’s A.I to replace iron man and names it Ultron.

      -Ultron is already created and corrupted at the beginning of the movie and pits the avengers against Baron Von Strucker and his men at the beginning of the movie to occupy them while he puts his plans in motion to bring about world piece and wipe out all biological life on the planet using S.H.I.E.L.D’s arsenal.

  23. Iron Man 3 and Captain America both have AIM in it, do you think that MAYBE AIM has something to do with the creation of Ultron?

    • Not unless they want to go and make modok a villain. They arent going to do that because he would look too weird on screen

      • After “The Mandarin”, anything is possible.

  24. I love Ultron as much as the next person in the wonderful world of Marvel comics. One of the problem Whedon will have to overcome is the image that the Avengers will be fighting someone who ends up looking like another Ironman. Afterall, Ultron is a giant shiny metallic robot, whose origin is rumored to be changed to be created by Tony Starks.

    After that Mandarin fiasco with Ironman 3, I am a bit worried when Marvel says they are going to do a slightly different take on a character. If the recent casting all rumor is true and the Scarlett Witch is said to use Magic, why couldn’t they gave the Mandarin magic as well? (off topic rant)

  25. I’d rather see Ultron created by Red Skull coming back, and recruiting Wanda and Pietro. Skull brings back an artificial, metallic life form that is similar to the Terminator. This life form helped Skull out when he was on the other side of the Galaxy. Anyway, Skull gets killed, but Wanda uses her magic to merge his brain patterns with the AI and Ultron is created. This Ultron creates the Vision, who falls in love with Wanda. This Ultron can create multiple versions of himself, like Master-Mold, thus he would not really die in the end.

  26. The Avengers: Age of Ultron

    Slogan: “Keep your friends close and your butlers human”

  27. I’m excited for this movie which should’ve been done in the first one save the Loki/Thanos story for the second one. Honestly, i don’t see how Ultron can be a threat to Hulk and Thor. Everybody else is in big trouble. Thor and The Hulk might have small roles in this one. Waiting for The Vision appear then things might get more interesting. Stay Tuned…

  28. I believe that Whedon is taking the SHIELD route. I am predicting that in light of recent events such as the Extremis virus and the Battly of New York, Uncle Sam assigns SHIELD TO create a weapon that can outmaneuver and obliterate (or have the chance to) any potential enemies in the future. SHIELD agrees and they call this project, let us say, maybe Project Ultron? SHIELD resurrects one and a group of the Skrulls and begin testing this robot. This robot can not only defeat one Skrull, but can also manage to easily defeat a couple of dozen. Then, SHIELD dares to take a step further and implements a chip that serves as a brain to the robot. They test this robot, see if he can rebuild/reactivate the Skrulls he took down and he successfully does. But there is one bug within Project Ultron, Project Ultron becomes a little too intelligent and becomes aware of the powers he possesses and BAM, Evil Ultron is born that now has the intelligence to build his own army and the strength to fight along and fight against Earth.

    Somewhere during the middle, Thanos contacts

    Ultron creates Vision just in case if anything happens to Ultron, the Avengers are overwhelmed by this army, Ultron uses his intelligence to defeat Hulk, Ultron has Iron Man on the verge of death (after a deadly battle), Vision (literally and metaphorically) backstabs Ultron because he too has become aware that this is not what Vision wants of himself and the world. Vision becomes a new member of the Avengers. The end.