Joss Whedon: Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch A ‘Huge Part’ of ‘The Avengers 2′

Published 1 year ago by , Updated June 14th, 2014 at 11:31 am,

Scarlet Witch Surrender Marvel Comics Joss Whedon: Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch A Huge Part of The Avengers 2

Disney raised a whole new set of questions over the last few weeks by confirming three release dates for unannounced Marvel Studios films coming in 2016-17, but one of the more interesting mysteries fans still have is regarding two new characters joining Earth’s Mightest in The Avengers 2. It was at the world premiere of Iron Man 3 where Joss Whedon first made public his intentions of including Pietro and Wanda Maximoff, aka Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch.

Within weeks though, X-Men: Days of Future Past director Bryan Singer unveiled over Twitter that he was also introducing Quicksilver (to be played by Even Peters) in Fox’s own cinematic universe. What does that mean for The Avengers 2 and is there any chance that previous interviews with Fox execs expressing interest in working with Marvel are hinting at something more?

At the Saturn awards this week, Crave Online caught up with Joss Whedon on the red carpet and asked him about the confusion behind the “brother-sister act” being of interest to both his own film for Marvel Studios and for Bryan Singer in the next X-Men team up for Twentieth Century Fox.

“It’s a huge part of the movie. I’m really excited about it and I don’t know what they’re doing – I’m determinedly not knowing… They’ll do their thing, I have to do mine.”

Not the words fans hopeful of Fox and Disney-Marvel deal to share characters are hoping to hear. Seeing two different versions of the same Marvel Comics character less than a year apart on screen, with at least one of them being drastically different from the comics doesn’t do anyone any good and it makes us wonder why they’d be used even in the first place by Whedon. The only explanation we can think of is that Scarlet Witch’s ability to alter reality may have have a crucial role in the story of The Avengers 2.

Marvel Comics Avengers Academy 7 Quicksilver Tron Joss Whedon: Quicksilver & Scarlet Witch A Huge Part of The Avengers 2

If Joss Whedon and Marvel Studios have talent in mind for Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch for The Avengers 2 this early out – and rumored names including Aaron Johnson and Saoirse Ronan have surfaced since Whedon first confirmed his intentions of adding the characters – it could be officially announced as early as three weeks from now at Comic-Con, or at Disney’s D23 event in August. The Avengers 2 begins shooting March 2014. It’s also possible that one or both of the characters appear beforehand in Captain America: The Winter Soldier or Guardians of the Galaxy, not unlike Scarlett Johansson’s Black Widow and Jeremy Renner’s Hawkeye made supporting/cameo appearances before The Avengers.

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Iron Man 3 is currently in theaters, Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014The Avengers 2 on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on November 6, 2015, and unannounced films for May 6 2016, July 8 2016 and May 5 2017.

Follow me on Twitter @rob_keyes for your Marvel movie news.

Source: Crave Online

Quicksilver art from Avengers Academy #7 (TRON variant) by Ed McGuinness.

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  1. “with at least one of them being drastically different from the comics doesn’t do anyone any good and it makes us wonder why they’d be used even in the first place by Whedon. The only explanation we can think of is that Scarlet Witch’s ability to alter reality may have have a crucial role in the story of The Avengers 2″

    Drastically different? Are either not going to have the power of super speed? That would seem to be a given so the differences are in minor background changes. Not really sure that not mentioning ones parentage and having them not be mutants really qualifies as, “drastic”. If it wasn’t Magneto though why would I even care? Who are Black Widow’s parents? Hawkeye’s? How about Captain America or Bruce Banner? The only Avengers that have important parentage would be Thor and IM but it general who cares?! Magneto was retrofitted to be their parents so Whedon just goes back to the original version. Big deal.

    As for why……Maybe Whedon is going to explore the Ultron story with Vision who has strong ties to SW. And as MoS has demonstrated, super speed on camera is just plain outright cool and fun to watch.

    • Mongoose,
      I take it from that last paragraph you enjoyed Man of Steel?

      • Took me a while to see it (saw it yesterday in fact) because I was waiting for friends that eventually flaked so I just went.

        in answer to your question though, yes. I went in expecting less but was hoping for more. So it kind of fell in the middle for me because I got more than expected but less than I had hoped.

        In fact, of the 4 movies I have seen recently; IM3, Star Trek, WWZ and MoS, it was as good as WWZ and better than IM3 and ST.

        ATTN MoS SPOILERS…..AVERT EYES NOW

        As far as specifics……I can’t say I liked the absence of the Clark Kent persona (I mean anyone who knew Clark and sees Superman on TV will put 2+2 together…like that kid he saved that runs the IHop) His secret ID is a pretty open book.

        Hated him dispatching Zod. The one thing Superman NEVER does is kill so this really went against the grain. Not saying the character never has never killed but to show it on his first outing was too much. Plus I really liked Zod so that villain can’t return now (although the original, “kneel before Zod” has an appeal)

        Why on Krypton did they need an entire ship to banish a handful criminals to the phantom zone? Blatant and contrived plot device to get Zod to Earth (and to ultimately destroy them). There should have been a better way.

        Then there was the fact that I “thought” the Jor-El program had total control of the ship, so why didn’t it disable it or at least stop the terraformer from detaching? Made no sense.

        And I would have preferred the original fortress of solitude angle for learning about himself instead of basically an old probe. And where is the crystal tech???! That should have been used.

        I also still dislike the outfit but it wasn’t as bad on screen….still needs a freakin’ red belt though. :P

        On the plus side however I liked the story thread that he was special and had the codex of Krypton embedded into his very cells. Made him really special. That also gave Zod a real reason to seek him out.

        Treating his childhood as a series of flashbacks was a great way of handling it w/o actually going through it all and Costner was wonderful as well. Especially liked his death and showing how important it was he kept his abilities secret.

        The only thing I didn’t get was, I thought the key (basically Jor-Els consciousness and the Krypton tech) was lost when the ships were sucked into the phantom zone so how could he have a, “place to hang his cape?”. Could just be some cave sure but that would be it. No fortress and no holographic dad is a part of what makes Superman.

    • I agree. They are great characters and they should fit well on the big screen. (Well, at least the Witch, don’t know about QS.)

    • “with at least one of them being drastically different from the comics doesn’t do anyone any good” – i think all this is doing is highlighting the fact that while Marvel can still use the characters, they are not allowed to refer to them as mutants or mention their father. however, i don’t think that those elements are essential for the characters so it shouldn’t be an issue.

  2. This is were I stand; regardless of how talented Whedon and that the people at Marvel/Disney know what they are doing, if what Kevin Feige (CEO of Marvel) said is true, that if they use SW and QS in Avengers 2 they can’t mention their mutant lineage or Magneto being their father, I’m without a doubt not lookimg foward to seeing their version. You completely kill who the character are if you cant mention these two CRUCIAL elements. Marvel needs to strike some deal with Fox if they havent already and get this fix characters if they don’t, Singer QS versiom is already guaranteed to be better than Whedon’s QS.

    • He’ll yes MOS was great so is Avengers.

    • Only in your opinion. In real life, the Avengers 2, including QS and SW, will be better than any Fox product… just like the first Avengers movie was.

    • Having read a number of Avengers comic featuring QS and SW, they have only very rarely mentioned their father. As for their powers, why would the need to discuss how they got them be an issue? Just accept that they have the powers and move on. The origin of their powers won’t make them any less interesting or complex as characters. Marvel can still allude to their dubious background as terrorists and have the rest of the team not entirely sure whether to trust them or not (at the beginning).

      The issue of Magneto being their father is always more present when they are in the X-comics, which is how it should be (unless there was some big marvel wide crossover event which happens from time to time in the comics).

      • Actually, Magneto being their father plays into their character all the time. The entire M Day story, which has been playing out since the early 2000′s, was based around Magneto. Scarlet Witch goes crazy and makes a world where mutants are dominant, then she goes even crazier and wipes them out. Quicksilver is always bitter about his father. You can read stories about this in everything from X-Factor to Avengers Academy.

        It’s true that Magneto is rarely mentioned in the main Avengers titles, but the stories that shape them both are constantly mentioned. I mean, once Scarlet Witch became more of a villain to mutants than Magneto, the focus shifted.

      • “Just accept that they have the powers and move on.” Sorry, but thats about the dumbest idea. Look at the cinematic Avenger universe that Marvel has created. Hulk- gamma radiation, iron man- mechanical suit, thor- god, black widow- bada$$ agent, hawkeye- bada$$ with a bow, captain America- super soldier serum . So what are SW and QS gonna be if not mutants? You might able to get away with it with SW and pull a type of Doctor Strange explanation, but QS not so much, unless you want to rip of Flash for the DCU.

        I guess what I’m trying to say is, that in a world where people with abilities doesn’t exist, and now QS and SW show up, what’s the explanation other than them being mutants? Personally I think he should just leave them out, there are far better characters to add that fit directly into the universe they created…like Black Panther.

        And as far as you sayimg their powers don’t make them comples…they actually do sense thats their motivation for their actions and is the bases of their beliefs and view of the world.

        • I don’t think many people want SW & QS’s power to not be explained at all. I have faith that Whedon can conjure up another method by which they become Super powered. I heard someone mention the Terrigen Mists on here (they give the Inhumans their powers). The Mists were actually used in a post-M-Day story in X-Factor where Quicksilver was using the Terrigen to repower mutants who lost their abilities due to the Scarlet Witch’s reality-altering breakdown. Any comic book fans should check that story, really that whole run, out. It shows how brilliant Peter David is. I wish he would write some of these movies.

  3. Quick Silver and the Scarlet Witch are both very cool character, and I’m looking forward to see how Whedon uses them in Avengers 2.

    This much is certain, Marvel and Whedon know what they are doing, their undeniable success show this. That being said, whatever they decide to do with these characters and Avengers 2 for that matter, will undoubtedly be the right decision and successful.

    • Agreed. I’m way more willing to give Marvel and Whedon the benefit of the doubt at this point than Fox and Singer.

    • If A2 have good story and Quicksilver have great action in A2 I am happy with it. But if Quicksilver is only just another joke cracker I doubted about it.

      I hate SW. But QS and Flash both are in my top 10 superheros. I looking for A2 only due to QS.

  4. actually Whedon and Marvel really don’t have it that bad….. all they have to do is not mention the parentage at all (easy to ignore)… and just say that they were born that way/ born with powers (just never state the word “mutants”…. and they’re good as gold.

  5. Apparently they are calling ‘AVENGERS’ the next ‘Star Wars’… Well, I guess as long as that doesn’t make Joss Whedon the new George Lucas I am okay with it.

    • Who’s “they”?

      • People man. Those sexy people with their big dongs..mmmmhmm…boy do they look delicious.

        • It’s too early to be talking about dongs.

          • It’s five o’clock somewhere…

    • Please don’t say that! If true that means we have a bunch of crappy prequels to look forward to in 20 years ><

    • Nothing will be the next Star Wars when they start doing the new Star Wars movies. I think they just meant it is the new cash cow of the moment, like they hope Star Wars will continue to be.

  6. It’s getting more difficult to join in on the discussions on this site. Little p*ssing battles all over the place with nothing getting done but bladder emptying. I miss the days when this site first started and the comments section was fun and civil. Oh well … carry on.

  7. Some of you need to take a break from fantasy trips.
    1 xmen first class sucked and that fact that it did not take the next
    Step financially caused the sequel to bring back original characters to
    try and save their collapsing xmen universe.
    2. Fox and singer are inserting characters as marvel makes announcements,
    Really great business plan LOL.
    3. Xmen characters wont see justice done to them until they make it back to mcu.
    4. And finally neither whedon or nolan are bulletproof, they can always improve.
    whedon with adding more detail to heroes and not ripping off their masks
    every five minutes and nolan needs to chill on too much psychobabble in his
    movies which cause his fans to spew out same.

  8. Some of you need to take a break from fantasy trips.
    1 xmen first class sucked and that fact that it did not take the next
    Step financially caused the sequel to bring back original characters to
    try and save their collapsing xmen universe.
    2. Fox and singer are inserting characters as marvel makes announcements,
    Really great business plan LOL.
    3. Xmen characters wont see justice done to them until they make it back to mcu.
    4. And finally neither whedon or nolan are bulletproof, they can always improve.
    whedon with adding more detail to heroes and not ripping off their masks
    every five minutes and nolan needs to chill on too much babble in his
    movies which cause his fans to spew out same.

  9. Some of you need to take a break from fantasy trips.
    1 xmen first class sucked and that fact that it did not take the next
    Step financially caused the sequel to bring back original characters to
    try and save their collapsing xmen universe.
    2. Fox and singer are inserting characters as marvel makes announcements,
    Really great business plan LOL.
    3. Xmen characters wont see justice done to them until they make it back to mcu.
    4. And finally neither whedon or nolan are bulletproof, they can always improve.
    whedon with adding more detail to heroes and not ripping off their masks
    every five minutes and nolan needs to relax on too much babble in his
    movies which cause his fans to spew out same.

  10. 1 xmen first class stunk and that fact that it did not take the next
    Step financially caused the sequel to bring back original characters to
    try and save their collapsing xmen universe.
    2. Fox and singer are inserting characters as marvel makes announcements,
    Really great business plan LOL.
    3. Xmen characters wont see justice done to them until they make it back to mcu.
    4. And finally neither whedon or nolan are bulletproof, they can always improve.
    whedon with adding more detail to heroes and not ripping off their masks
    every five minutes and nolan needs to relax on too much babble in his
    movies which cause his fans to spew out same.

  11. 1 xmen first class stunk and that fact that it did not take the next
    Step financially caused the sequel to bring back original characters to
    try and save their collapsing xmen universe.
    2. Fox and singer are inserting character marvel makes announcements,
    Really great business plan.
    3. Xmen characters wont see justice done to them until they make it back to mcu.
    4. And finally neither whedon or nolan are bulletproof, they can always improve.
    whedon with adding more detail to heroes and not ripping off their masks
    every five minutes and nolan needs to relax on too much babble in his
    movies which cause his fans to spew out same.

    • MCU does not equal instant perfection. If Sony buckled down, they could probably do justice to X-Men. I have enough faith in them thanks to Spider-Man, all 4 films which I enjoy. I feel like Fox could perfect X-Men if they wanted to, but it just seems like lately each film has a great movie hidden behind poor qualities. They aren’t getting better and they have the tools to get better.

      It’s why I have faith in TASM 2 and The Wolverine. TASM wasn’t quite on par with SM1, but I can still watch it. Hopefully, and this goes for Wolverine/DOFP, they learn from their mistakes. It was silly to seen Spidey’s origin forced to take a different path. If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. Raimi’s origin was near perfection. Webb’s felt so forced, like there were two people arguing on set and they couldn’t agree on having Raimi-esque scenes or not (Andrew flipping off the tip of the building to test his web swinging and crashing into things = Tobey crashing into the billboard testing his web swinging).

      • I always have a problem with those scenes, they are so stupid! If I had Spider-Powers like Spider-Man I’d build up to the jumping off buildings and swinging around like Spider-Man till I knew I could do that without hitting the ground and dying.

      • Just to clarify…..

        Fox = X-Men
        Sony = Spider-Man

    • that was a pretty cool article. nice find.

  12. Summer Glau as Scarlet Witch? :D