Joss Whedon Will ‘Dig Deeper’ for ‘Avengers 2′; Talks Phase 2 Marvel Universe

Published 3 years ago by , Updated May 6th, 2014 at 2:00 pm,

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Marvel’s mega-blockbuster, The Avengers, has now landed a massive $1.5 billion take at the global box office – and, even though the film’s follow-up is still three years away, fans are already chomping at the bit for early Avengers 2 details. Of course the biggest piece of news, so far, was the announcement that fan-favorite writer/director Joss Whedon would return to helm the sequel – as well as produce a full scale TV series based on S.H.I.E.L.D.

Ever since confirmation of the director’s return, Whedon has been surprisingly candid about how he intends to approach the superhero follow-up - in spite of the usual secrecy surrounding Marvel projects. Even though he’s keeping plot details under wraps, the director is promising a “deeper” character story in The Avengers 2 – one that is supported by the respective efforts of his companion Marvel cinematic universe “phase two” directors.

Speaking to Vancouver’s 24 Hours while promoting his Much Ado About Nothing adaptation at the Toronto Film Festival, Whedon briefly discussed his approach to shepherding the Marvel cinematic universe for the next three years. According to the director, he intends to be pretty hands-off – which should be a relief to anyone who still thinks Jon Favreau and Iron Man 2 were ruined by the weight of too much pre-Avengers pressure from Marvel Studios:

“Very talented people are writing and directing these movies, and what I don’t want to be is the guy they dread, who’s going to come in and say [imitating a pompous British accent] ‘Oh, well I have the power to say change this.’ I’m not that.”

Skeptics can look to Whedon’s recent support of a “twisted” take on Guardians of the Galaxy as proof of his intentions. Of course, even if Whedon is a fair and supportive overseer, the aforementioned “talented people” – directors Shane Black (Iron Man 3), Edgar Wright (Ant-Man), Alan Taylor (Thor: The Dark World), Anthony and Joseph Russo (Captain America: The Winter Soldier), as well as James Gunn (Guardians of the Galaxy) – will still have the added pressure of trying to fit a few pre-Avengers 2 elements and story threads into their respective films. No doubt it’ll be a difficult, albeit rewarding, balance for each filmmaker to find – a point that we have previously discussed in our feature article, Marvel’s Shared Universe: Was It Worth It?

Building up the individual characters in their solo-outtings is one of the reasons why The Avengers team-up film was so successful, and a choice that will be tested when DC’s Justice League movie plants the cart before the horse, introducing audiences to a number of their iconic heroes in a single movie – with the intention of spinning them off into standalone films afterward.

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Marvel intends to continue with their approach, presenting moviegoers with a slew of new potential Avengers before the next team up in 2015 – which should aid Whedon in producing what he describes as a “deeper” story in the sequel:

“The creation of the team is not the happy ending. It is the beginning of something that is complex and difficult, and now I get to dig a little deeper. And maybe, while I’m digging, just twist that knife. And that’s exciting for me.”

The Avengers definitely teased the kind of internal conflict that can occur when a hot-headed group of super powered people join together to fight an overwhelming threat. However, despite delivering a number of entertaining moments, most of the internal conflict arose out of somewhat one-dimensional pissing contests or disagreements about how to handle a particular threat. Considering Whedon’s comment about “digging deeper” (he’s previously teased a smaller-scale, more personal, character story – centered around a larger event, bigger squad of Avengers, and more dangerous villain) it’s easy to imagine that certain aspects of the Phase Two films will provide fodder for more complex internal Avengers conflict in the team-up sequel. Digging deeper into the group could help show a darker (or at the very least more conflicted) side of the do-gooders – one that was only briefly touched on in the first Avengers.

Which Avenger would you most like to see Whedon dig deeper into?


Follow me on Twitter @benkendrick for more on The Avengers 2 as well as future movie, TV, and gaming news.

The Avengers 2 releases on May 1, 2015. Here’s the rest of the confirmed Marvel “Phase Two” schedule: Iron Man 3 releases May 3, 2013, Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, and Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014. Ant-Man could also be released in 2014.

Source: 24 Hours [via ComingSoon]

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  1. I would love to see a deeper “dig” into the new Ruffalo HULK! because I dont know about any of you but I really cannot even watch the incredible hulk movie (Norton) because it is just NOT THE SAME without Ruffalo, it is a completely differant character than Ruffalo’s So since it does not look like there will be another HULK movie anytime soon PLEEZ Mr. WHEDON “DIG” deeper into Mark Ruffalo’s Bruce Banner/Hulk character… NOT INTO Captain America, I HATE WWII movies in the first place, I will not go see another WWII Cap Movie!!! NO WAY, NEVER, I REFUSE!!! A movie that “flashes Back” is fine but NO MORE than that

    • You’re referring to THOR 2: THE DARK WORLD.

  2. “DIG DEEPER” INTO LOKI & THOR! WE DEMAND IT!! Like, what da hell happen to Loki between the events of Thor & the Avengers? What does Loki really want? Whose side is he really on? Can he forgive & will he be forgiven? Just please, don’t shove Thor/Jane down our throats! Enough of that! But it is inevitable.

  3. Keeping digging and don’t stop until you strike Vibranium…MAKE MINE T’CHALLA!!

    • Exactly… I don’t really want to hear anything until the name Black Panther comes up. The fact the Marvel is making a movie with a talking raccoon in it and hasn’t gone into production with the Black Panther is just embarrassing and unforgivable.

      • I share your sentiments.

        And how could Marvel NOT consider incorporating the Black Panther into the Avengers sequel when they’re already moving forward with a film about Ant Man. Seriously?! I could be wrong, but I expect that one to be a box office DUD, in terms of ticket sales.

        Don’t get me wrong: I really hope to see Hank Pym (Ant Man/Giant Man) in the next Avengers movie (along with Panther, Wasp, and maybe Vision), but I just don’t think many people, outside of diehard Avengers comics fans, will take interest in a movie that centers on a superhero who is unknown to the majority of moviegoers and whose name reeks of “lame.”

        By the way, it bummed me out to learn that Falcon was chosen for the Winter Soldier, as opposed to Panther. I guess I was just spoiled by the outstanding “Earth’s Mightiest Heroes” cartoon series. Cap and “Panth” get along well together and make for a killer stealth team!

  4. I want to see Loki join the good side, and even a movie all about him. That would be cool and I’d go see it in the theatre and I don’t go to theatres

  5. Dig deeper into my wallet! Surely Disney needs it.

  6. I’d like to see them DIG DEEPER to get RDJ into another 5 contract deal. After IM3, that’ll be it for RDJ and Gwyneth Paltrow.

    Anyone want to weigh in on this?
    I just CAN’T see TA2 WITHOUT RDJ.
    I believe he was made to perform that role.

    • No question. Robert Downey, Jr. IS Tony Stark, at least as far as the Marvel cinematic universe goes. The two men are inseparable at this point.

  7. I think loki gonna end up givin thanos the gem out of the vault in asgurd so he can have the infinety gems