Aside from burning questions like "Will Joss Whedon return in the role of writer/director" or "is [insert spoiler] really, truly dead," we here at Screen Rant are most interested in which superhero characters – other than the six we're already cinematically familiar with – might show up in the sequels.
As such, we've crafted a wish-list of sorts, with breakdowns of the 15 Marvel superheroes we wouldn't mind seeing in Avengers 2, 3, 4, 5, and so on (with stats, bios, and summaries as to why we'd want them on the team).
I agree with Kyle. Especially since it seems the amazing spiderman will be showing that Pete’s parents worked for an early incarnation of shield. I’d also love to see wolverine make an appearance
Totally agree – the time has come where Spider-Man HAS to be brought-in as part of this Marvel Universe.
When there’s huge box office takings for such movies – Sony & Marvel/Disney must work something out – fans want it – If Spider-Man was to appear in Avengers 2 or 3….can you imagine the money it would make…?!?
What about Sony and Marvel having Ultimate Spiderman the cartoon right now? It has Coulson in it, even has CG as the voice actor. I feel like they could tie them together eventually, and Andrew Garfield would look so great in that cast…It’s doubtful it’ll happen, since they’d have to explain how Spidey missed out on the Chitauri attack, but I’m still hopeful. The Avengers just aren’t THE Avengers without the webhead.
Spiderman and Wolverine, among other atypical additions to the Avengers were often only there to boost sales of comics, in fact, starting sometime in the 70′s Spiderman and the Hulk were both the catalyst included in many comics, just for boosting sales. Sales flagging in the 90′s? Grab Wolverine, the Punisher, Ghost Rider, etc. Extra violence or the addition of a flagship characer typically helped. In my eyes, none of these characters were true Avengers because they never really “signed on” for more than a storyline. Of course that was because they were tools to be moved to where Marvel needed them.
READ COMICS! Spiderman has ALWAYS been around! Avengers no. 11! Amazing Spiderman No. 3, he was offered a role! He’s like, the unofficial official member of the Avengers! Also, Andrew Garfield is a far cry better than Tobey Mcguire was! Listen to what people are saying about that movie too! Andrew IS Peter Parker! I could honestly care less if he looked exactly like the comic book character(Still better than Tobey anyways), because he looks to have everything else down!
After Spider-Man 1 I stopped believing in Toby McGuire – He took the money for the part – but he always looked embarrassed about the role when interviewed etc.
The animation shows have absolutely nothing to do with the movies (that’s a confirmed fact).
The animation rights to Spider-Man reverted back to Marvel Animation a year or two ago (hence the new, lame show ).
So basically, Marvel can use any characters they want in their animation shows, but as for live action MOVIE rights… that’s another thing entirely.
Well Spidey DOESNT need to ride the coat tails of the Avengers nobody was saying this UNTIL the Avengers came out before then it was just Spider Man he has been a staple for Marvel for many,many decades no need to let him into the Avengers movie Im sure TASM will do good but too many characters is TOO much sometimes..see Transformers 2 and 3,Spiderman 3,Batman and Robin AND others.
Marvel Studios does not own the rights to use those characters.
So, Spidey, Daredevil, X-Men, FF are all “out of bounds” because they can’t be used by Marvel Studios and added to the MCU’s Avengers roster.
I can see that AND a maybe Vision..Im thinking Thanos wont be in the Avengers 2 maybe the Third one and the second maybe Ultron or the Masters of Evil.It would be VERY tough to top Thanos if they put him the Avengers 2 plus its alot things they could have to lead up to him.As far as Power Man and Iron Fist DEFINITELY a movie together no need to just throw them into the Avengers 2
Aren’t there two new TV shows that were going to be coming? A Hulk one and another one? That’d be a great way to introduce some of the minor people? And how cool would it be to randomly have Winter Soldier or something in the Hulk show?
The original Hulk TV show was a good, doable adaptation of the character. That was over thirty years ago. Think what they could do now. The Hulk can do more, fight more than just drunk husbands and bullies. They can develop government conspiracies, underground civilizations, other dimensions, other planets, more characters.
Same could be said of any character. TV, IMO, is much closer to the episodic nature of comics than movies. Movies always go huge on plots. TV shows can try different things.
VERY true not to mention introduce so many of Marvels underrated characters and some cult favorites as well.I think a Dr.Strange show could work as well ALOT better than that Blade abombination a few years ago from Spike TV
I defiitely want to se Ms. Marvel. She is probably my favorite lady in the Marvel U, and one I would want to take out on a date. Of course, Spiderman would be another, but I won’t really count him now simply because his rights are owned by fox. Black Panther and Luke cage are others, but there would have to be a Black Panther movie, and a Luke Cage movie first.
Am I the only person who doesn’t want to see Spider-man in the Avengers? Anyways, I would only want to see Ms Marvel, Ant-man, and wasp. I don’t want to be over saturated with superheroes. Also, is there a link to a bigger version of the 1st picture?
Funny you ask that, seeing as though Spider-man didnt join the avengers (or even actual avengers) until 2005 means you must have had 40+ years of nightmares. So the answer to your question is yes, I am a real super hero fan. Ive been reading and collecting comics since I was 4 years old. The second book Ive ever read was an X-men comic by Jim Lee. Though I like Spider-man, I just always felt he, or Wolverine, really meshed with the team. And believe me, Im not the only who thinks so.
Spiderman becomes an official member in 2005, but he appeared in issue 11 back in 64, and has although he wasn’t officially a member, he’s worked with the Avengers time and time again. Even though he wasn’t a member, he’s been there since year 1, and the fact that he’s always been trying to get in and helping out is what makes him so valuable to the franchise. He may not “officially” be a member, but he’s always been around. So no, I haven’t had 40 years of nightmares, because he was in the Avengers storyline the whole time. And if you think they meshed with the team so well, what’s so wrong with them? In X-men vs Avengers, it’s kind of cool that wolverine is on the Avengers side. Again, Spidey hasn’t been an official member, but he’s always been around.
and also in 66 the Avengers decided to let Spiderman join, but he declined because he was worried his identity would be discovered. So…again…he’s always been around…and always been a big part in the Avengers.
Just because Spidey COULD have been an Avenger and appeared in some Avengers comics, doesn’t make him an Avenger.
Fact is, he joined the team very recently (and only because Marvel Comics wanted more sales – best selling character + best selling team = more profits)
I’ve definitely covered this enough already, and if you’re going to reply to one of my comments, go through and read everything I’ve had to say more closely. I didn’t say he needs to be an Avenger, I just said he should be in an Avengers movie. He wasn’t just “in some Avengers comics”, he was in a ton of them. They were also in a ton of his comics. Spiderman and the Avengers fought side-by-side so many times, that he definitely should get the chance to appear with them on film. You can say it was only for money, but that says a lot about how much people love the character, and also about how ridiculously awesome that Avengers movie would be if he were in it.
I know he’s fought with the Avengers but guess what, so has Black Panther, Ant-Man, Wasp, Ms Marvel, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, etc, etc.
The difference between those characters and Spidey is that 1. they were actually part of the team before the turn of the century, and 2. Marvel Studios is legally allowed to use those characters.
That’s my whole point: why should they include Spider-Man (which would mean huge legal issues and sharing profits) if there are so many other characters that have (officially) been part of the team for so much longer…
I’m a huge Spidey fan, but he really doesn’t need to be in the Avengers IMO
well, again, read my comments. I’ve already said that there are definitely other characters here who deserve to be in it just as much, if not more. I don’t want to see Spidey jump in from of Ant-man, Wasp, Vision, or anyone else you mentioned. I’m simply arguing why I think Spiderman has credentials for an Avengers movie appearance. And the whole “official” thing still bothers me. “Officially” Spiderman is one of the most successful Marvel comic book characters, and I’m not saying he needs to be in the next one, but eventually it would be great.
Manhattan and New York City, in general, isn’t that large, as a whole, so for Spiderman (among other heroes) to become involved with both the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, etc., is a very likely occurence. If you were a superhero in the same city as me (and I was also a superhero), you’re damn right I’m going to help you.
Spiderman has also traditionally been juggled in as many as THREE different published comics (I grew up reading Amazing, Sensational and Team-Up). Sticking him into a team would very likely curb such production and hamper sales. As The Avenger said, it’s really all about making money.
The same thing applies to ensemble limited run series’ like Secret Wars, Contest of Champions, etc. They throw a boatload of characters together and test the market with them. Apparently things like Spiderman’s black costume got a good reaction. Before you know it characters like Venom are created and so on.
I worry it’d be hard to explain how so many of the New York heroes missed out on the Chitauri attack. Some of them couldn’t have done much anyways, despite how well Widow handled herself, but Spidey definitely could have.
But none of those heroes exist in the MCU anyway!
This whole argument is redundant…
Sadly, Spider-Man, X-Men, FF, Daredevil aren’t part of this universe and the chances of them becoming part of the universe is almost non-existent.
They are working on a reboot of the fantastic four. It would be a smart move to connect them into the universe.
Kahless the Unforgettable 1 year ago
@Zack
Fox is rebooting FF, so they can’t appear in a MCU movie.
Slayer 1 year ago
I stopped reading comics regularly in like 1997, but didn’t they stick almost everyone in the Avengers at some point? Ironic since they had cancelled the comic and sent most of the characters to Image comics back during that crazy time….
They did. A lot of Marvel heroes had a stint in The Avengers. A lot of them had several. I haven’t counted(and never will) the amount of times everyone has gotten their chance to shine with them, but I feel like Spidey definitely had a lot more “page-time” I guess we’ll call it, than most, if not all, the other heroes.
I remember when Hank McCoy/Beast was a member for a long time back in the 80′s. There have also been an oddly large(and strange) number of people on the Fantastic Four. Almost 90% of the stories took place in New York, so overlap was to be expected.
I would like to see the Sentry get added. His solo film could be a change in pace to Marvel’s formula for making movies (origin, discovery of power, boss fight). He was a drug addict who wanted to get high and became the most being in the Marvel Universe-in an instant! When you add the Sentry, you will also add the Void-the strongest villain. The solo movie could explore the dual sides of the Sentry and “reveal” that he and the Void are the same. His “mental illness” and agoraphobia make him a interesting character and could make for some interesting confrontations in a group setting.
Ehh. The Sentry was okay at first, and horrifically stupid later on. He’s basically Marvel’s version of Superman + Alan Moore’s Miracleman/Marvelman. Totally derivative to start, and then a waste of comic book space by the time he died.
Well the stand-alone strips of the Sentry were amazing. I am convinced that most of the other writers didn’t know how to write for the character of that magnitude and probably didn’t like him. If he was taken care of, he could have been great. Read the mighty avengers #1. What Iron Man says about him is so good.
Respectable opinion. Most people don’t like him. He wasn’t very popular, but IMO he is the most interesting character Marvel has created in a long time. He was completely different than any other character, and has such an intriguing origin. I like him because is the culmination of good and evil in Marvel comics and you see him struggle between the two.
Maybe you should do an article comparing Marvel’s and DC’s characters. I think many would be surprised at just how much each has, ahem, “borrowed” from the other.
Well if you do, please make sure to list who ripped off whom, make sure to include some of the more blatant ripoffs and please balance things on both sides so no one thinks one ripped the other off more (because they both have done an absolutely silly amount of stealing from the other)
Just to get you started:
Superman – I know from the post above some say Sentry but I think that Hyperion or Gladiator would be a closer match.
Spider-Man – Black Spider (At least the new version. Seeing Young Justice a couple weeks ago made me wonder how DC got away with that. http://dubbed-scene.com/index.php?q=node/9244)
Spider-Woman is on the honorable mentions slide at the very end. Moon Knight is Batman with a split personality disorder. He’s a fine comic book character, but he’ll never be in an Avengers movie.
I really wish they would. Moon Knight is such an intriguing character b/c of his multiple personalities. He was one of the last characters I got into b/c the old Avengers books never did him justice. I don’t think it will happen, but there has got to be plenty of people willing to take on that project if they knew more about him.
I hate Spider-Woman… especially in the recent Avengers comics.
She serves no purpose whatsoever IMO.
Give me Wasp or Ms Marvel any day…
Moon Knight is an interesting character and I think he should get some screentime. Maybe in a Heroes For Hire movie (not as part of the team), but maybe just a few references and a cameo – i mean, it all takes place in Hell’s Kitchen no?
Id like to see war machine, spidey and wolverine. Other than that idk much about marvel comics. Id like to see screen ranta do an article about their justice league character wish list. I think it would be a nice discussion
Out of the fifteen characters listed here I would want to see Ant-Man, Wasp, Black Panther, Vision, and Namor in a potential Avengers sequel. The others I think are better off in their own films, except Wonder Man, forget him completely. Though Adam Warlock should appear in Avengers 2 but only temporarily.
Black Panther and Namor would make excellent solo films. I like both of these characters. Luke Cage would make for an excellent solo film, as well as Ms. Marvel. I wouldn’t want them to just throw new characters into the next Avengers movies. An origin story/movie for each should come first before introducing them in the next avengers movie (no pun intended).
@ BKAMS…Falcon would be another great character. Good call.
By the way, isn’t Joss Wheddon related to that other Wheddon who was a director/producer of the 80s sitcom, The Golden Girls? I think his name is Mark Wheddon.
Er, Marvel? PLEASE get a tough looking african american to play Rhodey THIS time?! Like that dude who played Reverend in the series ‘Kings’ or Michael Jai White. Thank you.
Don Cheadle is Rhodey now… he’s signed the contract and will appear in IM3.
I think he did a great job in IM2 – and he definitely looked tough (tougher than Howard lol )
If Black Panther, Ant-Man, and Wasp aren’t in the next Avengers I’ll be shocked…. but again sometimes less is more. The big group dynamic is a good one, but we got lucky in this film that Hawkeye had the “issue” he did (not trying to spoil it for the I believe one person who didn’t see the movie). Sometimes adding too many characters waters down the product and we more or less get certain characters as glorified extras, this happened in the X-Men Franchise.
But outside of pretty much all the characters Ben mentioned (with the exception of Adam Warlock, Captain Mar-vell, and Wonder Man)… Spider-Man and Wolverine would be awesome in the next Avengers (I know I know, movie rights). I remember a while back Marvel Studios were talking about their plans of upcoming films, they mentioned that everything is leading to some sort of huge event in 2017… Secret Wars, Civil War, or World War Hulk would be great story arcs to do, so whatever characters we need to ensue that happens, lets get them on screen.
Actually, the list is pretty impressive so thumbs up! A think everybody is on the list but… instead of Wonder Man Falcon could be interesting as well. And as a additional female character why not Silver Sable (or is she linked to Spider-Man). And speaking of Black Panther, what if… I said “IF”, so what if the man to direct a Black Panther movie was Christopher Nolan since TDKR is his last film with Batman? Ok it was a big IF, maybe to big… but what if… ok I know. Enough IFs.
Please keep Nolan on the DC side of the tracks. We don’t need him infecting the shared Marvel universe party thing we have going with his “dark and gritty realism”
I would use Winter soldier in the captain america sequel, and leader in the Hulk sequel but if they decide no hulk sequel use him as a main threat. also would love to see giantman,wasp,warbird/mrs marvel,vision,Ultron,Namor,Luke Cage, and the inhumans would be awesome to see in future sequels to the avengers. also let steve rogers aka captain america and peggy meet in the present and she be older and they at least have their dance they missed out on.
The least appealing one to me is hercules… I don’t even like that they turned a norse god into a superhero. Now we are taking greek characters. Lack of originality
I do agree with you on the Hercules part. Thor turned out real well but I do hope they don’t add Hercules unless it is totally necessary for some reason.
This could just be a coincidence buf SPOILER ALERT….
Those who’ve seen the movie probably remember the waitress among the crowd of people Cap saves and her appearance on the news at end. Her name tag read Beth and I found it strange how such emphasis was placed on Cap’s mask coming off and her seeing it. Heck,even what she said on the news was noteworthy. Well,and again could just be a coincidence,but Eric O’Grady aka Shield agent aka Ant-Man saved a girl from a mugger. That girl’s name was Beth.
But I think they just kept having the mask off because it actually looked kind of dumb but I get that there wasn’t much they could do to change it and adapt the costume to reality.
lol, yeah, she’s not that famous (yet!)…
As soon as I saw The Avengers (and her speech at the end), the first thing that came to my mind was “wait! She does the voice-over for that girl on that ‘Ben 10′ show!!!”
Other than some voice-overs, her role in ‘The Help’, and her appearance on Whedon’s ‘Dollhouse’, I haven’t seen any of her other work.
Ant-Man is most likely a certainty. In fact,I think there was a nod to him in the Avengers. Those who’ve seen the movie probably remember the waitress among the crowd of people Cap saves and her appearance on the news at end. Her name tag read Beth and I found it strange how such emphasis was placed on Cap’s mask coming off and her seeing it. Heck,even what she said on the news was noteworthy. Well,and could just be a coincidence,but Eric O’Grady aka Shield agent aka a wearer of the Ant-Man armor saved a girl from a mugger. That girl’s name was Beth.
There was going to be a nod to Ant-Man in Thor but they cut it out because there were so many easter eggs in the film already. But Ant-Man is definitely the next new superhero to hit the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the next year or two.
Any news on the casting of Ant-Man? I remember at one point hearing that Nathan Fillion was up for consideration. And Adrien Brody too…
Either way, if we get Nathan Fillion, and if Whedon signs on for Avengers 2, I’ll bet we get a nice Mal Reynolds vibe from Ant-Man. Admittedly I don’t know that much about Ant-Man and I wonder about whether or not his powers will seem ridiculous on the big screen…
I’d ultimately love to see Marvel and Sony strike up a deal to get Spidey in there. Dream come true.
I agree with Kyle. Especially since it seems the amazing spiderman will be showing that Pete’s parents worked for an early incarnation of shield. I’d also love to see wolverine make an appearance
Totally agree – the time has come where Spider-Man HAS to be brought-in as part of this Marvel Universe.
When there’s huge box office takings for such movies – Sony & Marvel/Disney must work something out – fans want it – If Spider-Man was to appear in Avengers 2 or 3….can you imagine the money it would make…?!?
I want to see jack of hearts and darkhawk badly, doubt that will ever happen.
I think Ms. Marvel is becoming the new Captain Marvel
but i agree with this mostly but i’d like to see Daredevil and Spiderman added
Also no Winter Soldier..I want him to be the villain in Capt 2..I’m needy.
But he could be the villain in Cap 2 and a hero in Avengers 2. They’re not mutually exclusive. In fact, we cover that in the article.
She is. And there have been about ten other Captain Marvels, too, after the first died.
Spider-Man and Daredevil are out of bounds for the Marvel movies, so we left them off the list.
Woah woah easy killer, I didn’t mean added to YOUR list i just meant in general.
Ah. Well, I wasn’t being testy, I was just explaining, so no need for me to go easy.
Sorry for the mis-communication then, good list regardless.
What about Sony and Marvel having Ultimate Spiderman the cartoon right now? It has Coulson in it, even has CG as the voice actor. I feel like they could tie them together eventually, and Andrew Garfield would look so great in that cast…It’s doubtful it’ll happen, since they’d have to explain how Spidey missed out on the Chitauri attack, but I’m still hopeful. The Avengers just aren’t THE Avengers without the webhead.
…while I would be happy to see Spider-Man in the Avengers, the group did just fine as a team without him for forty+ years.
Agreed. I’m STILL having a hard time believing Spidey’s an avenger.
lol, just like the JL, most of Marvel’s good guy’s have joined the Avengers at one time or another.
Spiderman and Wolverine, among other atypical additions to the Avengers were often only there to boost sales of comics, in fact, starting sometime in the 70′s Spiderman and the Hulk were both the catalyst included in many comics, just for boosting sales. Sales flagging in the 90′s? Grab Wolverine, the Punisher, Ghost Rider, etc. Extra violence or the addition of a flagship characer typically helped. In my eyes, none of these characters were true Avengers because they never really “signed on” for more than a storyline. Of course that was because they were tools to be moved to where Marvel needed them.
Except the hundreds of times he helped them…
Good lord, no Andrew Garfield in the Avengers!! IMO, he’s been horribly miscast as Spider-man. No sense in having him drag down an Avengers film, too.
READ COMICS! Spiderman has ALWAYS been around! Avengers no. 11! Amazing Spiderman No. 3, he was offered a role! He’s like, the unofficial official member of the Avengers! Also, Andrew Garfield is a far cry better than Tobey Mcguire was! Listen to what people are saying about that movie too! Andrew IS Peter Parker! I could honestly care less if he looked exactly like the comic book character(Still better than Tobey anyways), because he looks to have everything else down!
And I agree with Zack. Garfield is so much betters as Peter Parker/Spiderman. As much as I love Spiderman, I never cared for Raimi’s movies.
After Spider-Man 1 I stopped believing in Toby McGuire – He took the money for the part – but he always looked embarrassed about the role when interviewed etc.
Right on Zack. Bring in Spidey and Wolverine.
The animation shows have absolutely nothing to do with the movies (that’s a confirmed fact).
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The animation rights to Spider-Man reverted back to Marvel Animation a year or two ago (hence the new, lame show
So basically, Marvel can use any characters they want in their animation shows, but as for live action MOVIE rights… that’s another thing entirely.
Well Spidey DOESNT need to ride the coat tails of the Avengers nobody was saying this UNTIL the Avengers came out before then it was just Spider Man he has been a staple for Marvel for many,many decades no need to let him into the Avengers movie Im sure TASM will do good but too many characters is TOO much sometimes..see Transformers 2 and 3,Spiderman 3,Batman and Robin AND others.
What does that mean that they’re “out of bounds?”
Marvel Studios does not own the rights to use those characters.
So, Spidey, Daredevil, X-Men, FF are all “out of bounds” because they can’t be used by Marvel Studios and added to the MCU’s Avengers roster.
i dont think Luke Cage and Iron Fist should be in Avengers 2 imo they should have their own movie Heroes For Hire
Black Panther, Ant-Man and Wasp are the most likely to join The Avengers.
I agree!
I can see that AND a maybe Vision..Im thinking Thanos wont be in the Avengers 2 maybe the Third one and the second maybe Ultron or the Masters of Evil.It would be VERY tough to top Thanos if they put him the Avengers 2 plus its alot things they could have to lead up to him.As far as Power Man and Iron Fist DEFINITELY a movie together no need to just throw them into the Avengers 2
Black Panther, MAYBE, but I think that The Wasp and Ant-Man can be kept out of any future pictures.
Aren’t there two new TV shows that were going to be coming? A Hulk one and another one? That’d be a great way to introduce some of the minor people? And how cool would it be to randomly have Winter Soldier or something in the Hulk show?
I love how everything is connected by Marvel!
No more Hulk shows. No more Wonder Woman shows. No more Flash shows. No more Superman shows. It has already been done. Enough already.
The original Hulk TV show was a good, doable adaptation of the character. That was over thirty years ago. Think what they could do now. The Hulk can do more, fight more than just drunk husbands and bullies. They can develop government conspiracies, underground civilizations, other dimensions, other planets, more characters.
Same could be said of any character. TV, IMO, is much closer to the episodic nature of comics than movies. Movies always go huge on plots. TV shows can try different things.
VERY true not to mention introduce so many of Marvels underrated characters and some cult favorites as well.I think a Dr.Strange show could work as well ALOT better than that Blade abombination a few years ago from Spike TV
I really wish Marvel and Sony could fix something up so Spidey could pop up and fight with Cap and Iron Man.
I defiitely want to se Ms. Marvel. She is probably my favorite lady in the Marvel U, and one I would want to take out on a date. Of course, Spiderman would be another, but I won’t really count him now simply because his rights are owned by fox. Black Panther and Luke cage are others, but there would have to be a Black Panther movie, and a Luke Cage movie first.
Sony owns Spider-Man not Fox
My mistake. I keep forgetting that because I am still upset with fox for the messed up job they did to the x-men. Thanks
You want to take Spider Man on a date?!
That’s funny! I thought the same exact thing when I read that!
Sub Mariner is a bit too weak for the Avengers, let alone a movie.
agent coulson to become the vision??
Am I the only person who doesn’t want to see Spider-man in the Avengers? Anyways, I would only want to see Ms Marvel, Ant-man, and wasp. I don’t want to be over saturated with superheroes. Also, is there a link to a bigger version of the 1st picture?
Are you a real superhero fan? The Avengers without Spiderman? Gives me nightmares….
Funny you ask that, seeing as though Spider-man didnt join the avengers (or even actual avengers) until 2005 means you must have had 40+ years of nightmares. So the answer to your question is yes, I am a real super hero fan. Ive been reading and collecting comics since I was 4 years old. The second book Ive ever read was an X-men comic by Jim Lee. Though I like Spider-man, I just always felt he, or Wolverine, really meshed with the team. And believe me, Im not the only who thinks so.
Spiderman becomes an official member in 2005, but he appeared in issue 11 back in 64, and has although he wasn’t officially a member, he’s worked with the Avengers time and time again. Even though he wasn’t a member, he’s been there since year 1, and the fact that he’s always been trying to get in and helping out is what makes him so valuable to the franchise. He may not “officially” be a member, but he’s always been around. So no, I haven’t had 40 years of nightmares, because he was in the Avengers storyline the whole time. And if you think they meshed with the team so well, what’s so wrong with them? In X-men vs Avengers, it’s kind of cool that wolverine is on the Avengers side. Again, Spidey hasn’t been an official member, but he’s always been around.
there’s a “has” in there I wish to take back. Same on me for bad words.
and also in 66 the Avengers decided to let Spiderman join, but he declined because he was worried his identity would be discovered. So…again…he’s always been around…and always been a big part in the Avengers.
Just because Spidey COULD have been an Avenger and appeared in some Avengers comics, doesn’t make him an Avenger.
Fact is, he joined the team very recently (and only because Marvel Comics wanted more sales – best selling character + best selling team = more profits)
I’ve definitely covered this enough already, and if you’re going to reply to one of my comments, go through and read everything I’ve had to say more closely. I didn’t say he needs to be an Avenger, I just said he should be in an Avengers movie. He wasn’t just “in some Avengers comics”, he was in a ton of them. They were also in a ton of his comics. Spiderman and the Avengers fought side-by-side so many times, that he definitely should get the chance to appear with them on film. You can say it was only for money, but that says a lot about how much people love the character, and also about how ridiculously awesome that Avengers movie would be if he were in it.
I know he’s fought with the Avengers but guess what, so has Black Panther, Ant-Man, Wasp, Ms Marvel, Scarlet Witch, Quicksilver, Vision, etc, etc.
The difference between those characters and Spidey is that 1. they were actually part of the team before the turn of the century, and 2. Marvel Studios is legally allowed to use those characters.
That’s my whole point: why should they include Spider-Man (which would mean huge legal issues and sharing profits) if there are so many other characters that have (officially) been part of the team for so much longer…
I’m a huge Spidey fan, but he really doesn’t need to be in the Avengers IMO
well, again, read my comments. I’ve already said that there are definitely other characters here who deserve to be in it just as much, if not more. I don’t want to see Spidey jump in from of Ant-man, Wasp, Vision, or anyone else you mentioned. I’m simply arguing why I think Spiderman has credentials for an Avengers movie appearance. And the whole “official” thing still bothers me. “Officially” Spiderman is one of the most successful Marvel comic book characters, and I’m not saying he needs to be in the next one, but eventually it would be great.
Manhattan and New York City, in general, isn’t that large, as a whole, so for Spiderman (among other heroes) to become involved with both the Avengers, the Fantastic Four, etc., is a very likely occurence. If you were a superhero in the same city as me (and I was also a superhero), you’re damn right I’m going to help you.
Spiderman has also traditionally been juggled in as many as THREE different published comics (I grew up reading Amazing, Sensational and Team-Up). Sticking him into a team would very likely curb such production and hamper sales. As The Avenger said, it’s really all about making money.
The same thing applies to ensemble limited run series’ like Secret Wars, Contest of Champions, etc. They throw a boatload of characters together and test the market with them. Apparently things like Spiderman’s black costume got a good reaction. Before you know it characters like Venom are created and so on.
I worry it’d be hard to explain how so many of the New York heroes missed out on the Chitauri attack. Some of them couldn’t have done much anyways, despite how well Widow handled herself, but Spidey definitely could have.
But none of those heroes exist in the MCU anyway!
This whole argument is redundant…
Sadly, Spider-Man, X-Men, FF, Daredevil aren’t part of this universe and the chances of them becoming part of the universe is almost non-existent.
They are working on a reboot of the fantastic four. It would be a smart move to connect them into the universe.
@Zack
Fox is rebooting FF, so they can’t appear in a MCU movie.
I stopped reading comics regularly in like 1997, but didn’t they stick almost everyone in the Avengers at some point? Ironic since they had cancelled the comic and sent most of the characters to Image comics back during that crazy time….
They did. A lot of Marvel heroes had a stint in The Avengers. A lot of them had several. I haven’t counted(and never will) the amount of times everyone has gotten their chance to shine with them, but I feel like Spidey definitely had a lot more “page-time” I guess we’ll call it, than most, if not all, the other heroes.
I remember when Hank McCoy/Beast was a member for a long time back in the 80′s. There have also been an oddly large(and strange) number of people on the Fantastic Four. Almost 90% of the stories took place in New York, so overlap was to be expected.
what u talking about Spider-Man became a Avenger way late in the comics. so he dont have to be in the movies at all
Grammar was invented long long ago, so please use it…
I would like to see the Sentry get added. His solo film could be a change in pace to Marvel’s formula for making movies (origin, discovery of power, boss fight). He was a drug addict who wanted to get high and became the most being in the Marvel Universe-in an instant! When you add the Sentry, you will also add the Void-the strongest villain. The solo movie could explore the dual sides of the Sentry and “reveal” that he and the Void are the same. His “mental illness” and agoraphobia make him a interesting character and could make for some interesting confrontations in a group setting.
Ehh. The Sentry was okay at first, and horrifically stupid later on. He’s basically Marvel’s version of Superman + Alan Moore’s Miracleman/Marvelman. Totally derivative to start, and then a waste of comic book space by the time he died.
Well the stand-alone strips of the Sentry were amazing. I am convinced that most of the other writers didn’t know how to write for the character of that magnitude and probably didn’t like him. If he was taken care of, he could have been great. Read the mighty avengers #1. What Iron Man says about him is so good.
I have read Mighty Avengers #1. Like I said, in my opinion, he’s still highly derivative even at his best.
Respectable opinion. Most people don’t like him. He wasn’t very popular, but IMO he is the most interesting character Marvel has created in a long time. He was completely different than any other character, and has such an intriguing origin. I like him because is the culmination of good and evil in Marvel comics and you see him struggle between the two.
I totally agre with this. The Sentry character has a lot of potential.
Maybe you should do an article comparing Marvel’s and DC’s characters. I think many would be surprised at just how much each has, ahem, “borrowed” from the other.
Not a bad idea at all.
Well if you do, please make sure to list who ripped off whom, make sure to include some of the more blatant ripoffs and please balance things on both sides so no one thinks one ripped the other off more (because they both have done an absolutely silly amount of stealing from the other)
Just to get you started:
Superman – I know from the post above some say Sentry but I think that Hyperion or Gladiator would be a closer match.
Spider-Man – Black Spider (At least the new version. Seeing Young Justice a couple weeks ago made me wonder how DC got away with that. http://dubbed-scene.com/index.php?q=node/9244)
Vision – Red Tornado
Green Lantern – Nova
oh and a fun one…..
Justice League – Squadron Supreme
bah, this should read:
Green Lantern – Nova / Quasar
Swamp thing-Man thing.
Mr. Fantastic-Plastic Man/Elongated man (big personality differences).
Darksied-Thanos
Namor-Aquaman
what about spider woman and moon knight?
Spiderwoman could appear in a Heroes For Hire movie with Luke Cage. Moon Knight is really cool but probably too Batman for a Marvel film.
Spider-Woman is on the honorable mentions slide at the very end. Moon Knight is Batman with a split personality disorder. He’s a fine comic book character, but he’ll never be in an Avengers movie.
Agreed. As much I would like to see one, Marvel would never make Moon Knight movie.
I really wish they would. Moon Knight is such an intriguing character b/c of his multiple personalities. He was one of the last characters I got into b/c the old Avengers books never did him justice. I don’t think it will happen, but there has got to be plenty of people willing to take on that project if they knew more about him.
I hate Spider-Woman… especially in the recent Avengers comics.
She serves no purpose whatsoever IMO.
Give me Wasp or Ms Marvel any day…
Moon Knight is an interesting character and I think he should get some screentime. Maybe in a Heroes For Hire movie (not as part of the team), but maybe just a few references and a cameo – i mean, it all takes place in Hell’s Kitchen no?
Id like to see war machine, spidey and wolverine. Other than that idk much about marvel comics. Id like to see screen ranta do an article about their justice league character wish list. I think it would be a nice discussion
Out of the fifteen characters listed here I would want to see Ant-Man, Wasp, Black Panther, Vision, and Namor in a potential Avengers sequel. The others I think are better off in their own films, except Wonder Man, forget him completely. Though Adam Warlock should appear in Avengers 2 but only temporarily.
Black Panther and Namor would make excellent solo films. I like both of these characters. Luke Cage would make for an excellent solo film, as well as Ms. Marvel. I wouldn’t want them to just throw new characters into the next Avengers movies. An origin story/movie for each should come first before introducing them in the next avengers movie (no pun intended).
@ BKAMS…Falcon would be another great character. Good call.
Wonder Man’s story, as potrayed in Avengers: Earth’s Mightiest Heroes, isn’t as hokey
Yeah, but still DC would probably throw a copyright fit like they did when Marvel first introduced Wonder Man.
By the way, isn’t Joss Wheddon related to that other Wheddon who was a director/producer of the 80s sitcom, The Golden Girls? I think his name is Mark Wheddon.
Er, Marvel? PLEASE get a tough looking african american to play Rhodey THIS time?! Like that dude who played Reverend in the series ‘Kings’ or Michael Jai White. Thank you.
Don Cheadle is Rhodey now… he’s signed the contract and will appear in IM3.
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I think he did a great job in IM2 – and he definitely looked tough (tougher than Howard lol
If Black Panther, Ant-Man, and Wasp aren’t in the next Avengers I’ll be shocked…. but again sometimes less is more. The big group dynamic is a good one, but we got lucky in this film that Hawkeye had the “issue” he did (not trying to spoil it for the I believe one person who didn’t see the movie). Sometimes adding too many characters waters down the product and we more or less get certain characters as glorified extras, this happened in the X-Men Franchise.
But outside of pretty much all the characters Ben mentioned (with the exception of Adam Warlock, Captain Mar-vell, and Wonder Man)… Spider-Man and Wolverine would be awesome in the next Avengers (I know I know, movie rights). I remember a while back Marvel Studios were talking about their plans of upcoming films, they mentioned that everything is leading to some sort of huge event in 2017… Secret Wars, Civil War, or World War Hulk would be great story arcs to do, so whatever characters we need to ensue that happens, lets get them on screen.
Planet Hulk would make for an incredible solo movie. Then the plot of World War Hulk for Avengers 3.
Actually, the list is pretty impressive so thumbs up! A think everybody is on the list but… instead of Wonder Man Falcon could be interesting as well. And as a additional female character why not Silver Sable (or is she linked to Spider-Man). And speaking of Black Panther, what if… I said “IF”, so what if the man to direct a Black Panther movie was Christopher Nolan since TDKR is his last film with Batman? Ok it was a big IF, maybe to big… but what if… ok I know. Enough IFs.
Please keep Nolan on the DC side of the tracks. We don’t need him infecting the shared Marvel universe party thing we have going with his “dark and gritty realism”
HUGE LIKE BUTTON!!
Ant man, Wasp, Luke cage and other ARE NOT mutants… Nor did they Mutate.
Other then that, I love the list, DEFINITELY agree on the first three.
Hopefully Marvel takes notice that we want to see these characters in an upcoming movie, Avengers2,3,4 whatever… Or even their own solo films…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mutate_(comics)
I think Wasp is a mutant in the Ultimate line actually.
I believe Namor is technically the first mutant superhero ever (?).
They’re mutates, not mutants. Use your Google machine, please.
I would use Winter soldier in the captain america sequel, and leader in the Hulk sequel but if they decide no hulk sequel use him as a main threat. also would love to see giantman,wasp,warbird/mrs marvel,vision,Ultron,Namor,Luke Cage, and the inhumans would be awesome to see in future sequels to the avengers. also let steve rogers aka captain america and peggy meet in the present and she be older and they at least have their dance they missed out on.
Rick Jones anyone?
The least appealing one to me is hercules… I don’t even like that they turned a norse god into a superhero. Now we are taking greek characters. Lack of originality
I do agree with you on the Hercules part. Thor turned out real well but I do hope they don’t add Hercules unless it is totally necessary for some reason.
Thor makes sense because Marvel interprets him as an alien by which humans view him as a god because they can’t explain his power.
Hecules on the other hand is just purely based on greek mythology so as a “god” he makes no sense in the real world interpretation.
@Joel Conley
Unless Hercules and the Olympians are just another race of god-like “aliens” like Thor and the Asgardians?
if you read the Ultimates Wasp was a mutant,along with quick silver and scarlett witch.
And Wanda and Pietro are also Magneto’s kids too, right?
This could just be a coincidence buf SPOILER ALERT….
Those who’ve seen the movie probably remember the waitress among the crowd of people Cap saves and her appearance on the news at end. Her name tag read Beth and I found it strange how such emphasis was placed on Cap’s mask coming off and her seeing it. Heck,even what she said on the news was noteworthy. Well,and again could just be a coincidence,but Eric O’Grady aka Shield agent aka Ant-Man saved a girl from a mugger. That girl’s name was Beth.
Interesting note.
But I think they just kept having the mask off because it actually looked kind of dumb but I get that there wasn’t much they could do to change it and adapt the costume to reality.
The “waitress” in The Avengers is a Whedonite (i.e. Whedon has worked with her before). And he loves to use actors he’s worked with before in his other work:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joss_Whedon#Frequent_casting
I don’t think the waitress was as important as everyone’s thinking…
That’s just my opinion though
She was also Mel Gibson’s daughter in What Women Want. That’s the only thing I remember her being in.
lol, yeah, she’s not that famous (yet!)…
As soon as I saw The Avengers (and her speech at the end), the first thing that came to my mind was “wait! She does the voice-over for that girl on that ‘Ben 10′ show!!!”
Other than some voice-overs, her role in ‘The Help’, and her appearance on Whedon’s ‘Dollhouse’, I haven’t seen any of her other work.
Eventhough i’m not a hardcore fan of him, I think Namor would be a good fit for an Avengers sequel.
Ant-Man is most likely a certainty. In fact,I think there was a nod to him in the Avengers. Those who’ve seen the movie probably remember the waitress among the crowd of people Cap saves and her appearance on the news at end. Her name tag read Beth and I found it strange how such emphasis was placed on Cap’s mask coming off and her seeing it. Heck,even what she said on the news was noteworthy. Well,and could just be a coincidence,but Eric O’Grady aka Shield agent aka a wearer of the Ant-Man armor saved a girl from a mugger. That girl’s name was Beth.
Tho an interesting and very cool idea there is to many aka’s for me to make it reliable. Still possible tho
There was going to be a nod to Ant-Man in Thor but they cut it out because there were so many easter eggs in the film already. But Ant-Man is definitely the next new superhero to hit the Marvel Cinematic Universe in the next year or two.
Any news on the casting of Ant-Man? I remember at one point hearing that Nathan Fillion was up for consideration. And Adrien Brody too…
Either way, if we get Nathan Fillion, and if Whedon signs on for Avengers 2, I’ll bet we get a nice Mal Reynolds vibe from Ant-Man. Admittedly I don’t know that much about Ant-Man and I wonder about whether or not his powers will seem ridiculous on the big screen…
But, here’s to open-mindedness