‘Captain America 2′ Cast Discuss ‘Avengers 2′ Appearances and Screen Time (Spoilers)

Published 7 months ago by , Updated March 28th, 2014 at 6:07 am,

[WARNING: THIS VIDEO & ARTICLE CONTAIN POSSIBLE CAPTAIN AMERICA 2 SPOILERS!!!]

If there is one criticism about the Marvel Cinematic Universe right now, it’s that it could probably use a few more diversity hires. It’s not as if there isn’t precedence – Marvel has an extensive list of female, minority and even gay characters – it’s just that few of these characters are actually present onscreen in major roles, right now. For instance, if you remove Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson) and Nick Fury (Samuel L. Jackson) from The Avengers, you’re pretty much left with a country club party (i.e., white males).

But while we wait for the day when Black Widow, Ms. Marvel or Black Panther are headlining their own films, it seems that The Avengers: Age of Ultron is going to be offering bigger action at the cost of soul… brothers. From the video above, it doesn’t sound like Nick Fury (Samuel L. Jackson) and Falcon (Anthony Mackie) are going to be contributing much to the fight against evil robot Ultron (James Spader).

(P.S. – In the video Chris Evans and ScarJo inadvertently confirm leaked details about the Captain America 2 post-credits scene.)

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All talk of race and diversity quotas aside and just focusing on the characters themselves, this is troubling news for a couple of reasons.

  1. Samuel L. Jackson discussing a cameo in Avengers 2 – or Sebastian Stan discussing the same - could be taken as major SPOILERS for Captain America: The Winter Soldier.
  2. Not having Falcon in the film is a crime because Falcon is pretty awesome in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and if you’re bringing Jeremy Renner’s Hawkeye to the party, you might as well bring Falcon. I bet Hawkeye would run out of arrows before Falcon ran out of bullets and jet fuel; in any event, I’d love to see that competition take place in the midst of a battle sequence.

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To be fair, Mackie simply stated that he has not received the call for Age of Ultron yet – but that’s not completely unheard of in Marvel movie-making. Kat Dennings told me that the call for her to appear in Thor: The Dark World came after she was already convinced that she wasn’t returning; it’s always at least possible that guys like Mackie and Sebastian Stan could get the call at some point in production. You never know what kind of button scenes or special cameos Marvel Studios could have planned in order to push their roster of newbie characters into Phase 3…

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Avengers 2 Costumes (Iron Man) & (Quicksilver/Scarlet Witch)

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On the minority front, we still have War Machine (Don Cheadle) in Avengers 2 - but again, how much of him we’ll see is questionable. Fingers crossed that Black Panther movie comes sometime in Phase 3….

Regardless, the film has a great cast that includes returning actors Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, Cobie Smulders, Jeremy Renner, Mark Ruffalo, Paul Bettany, Robert Downey Jr., Samuel L. Jackson and Scarlett Johansson, along with newcomers Aaron Taylor-Johnson (Quicksilver), Elizabeth Olsen (Scarlet Witch), Thomas Kretschmann (Baron von Strucker) and James Spader as Ultron.

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Captain America: The Winter Soldier releases on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014The Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on July 31, 2015, and unannounced films for May 6 2016, July 8 2016 and May 5 2017.

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  1. mmm

  2. Will be interesting to see how they plan on separating Falcon and Cap for Avengers 2, don’t they end TWS together?

  3. Love Samuel L Jackson’s t-shirt!

    • Me too! I want one.

  4. Why is it Marvel films are CONSTANTLY getting the “add more diversity” nonsense thrown at them? If you force the diversity crap in there it does not fit and it is a noticeable forced addittion. Let it happen naturaly and stop complaining about it people. There are already characters like War Machine, Falcon, and Fury in the continuity and I am sure they will all get more time to shine each in the future whether you complain about it or not. Just enjoy the damn movies.

  5. Story is more important than making sure you have different races in the mix. I want a Black Panther movie so bad but not because of his color. It’s because he’s freaking awesome. They’re not going to make a movie out of Goliath or Brother Voodoo. Maybe a Cloak and Dagger movie but not for a while. Are we hoping for another Blade movie or something? I’m not saying I only care about white characters or anything (before anyone puts words in my mouth or jumps to conclusions), I’m just saying that I want them to make movies about the most interesting characters regardless of their race. So most of them are white. And? What does it matter? I was raised to not care about skin color. I think it’s disengenuous for studios to reduce the significance of character to something as trivial as the color of their skin or make a movie out of an uninteresting character to appeal to a certain demographic OR race swap a character for the same reason. When I watch Iron Man I don’t think, “Oh look, there goes a white guy doing cool super hero stuff,” just like, “Oh look, there’s a black guy doing cool super hero stuff,” won’t be going through my head when they make Black Panther. It’s such an inane thing to focus on.

    • ^^^^^+10000
      I also feel the emphasis should be on the story and the characters. Forcefully imposing an agenda of diversity can sterilize and potentially ruin the movie.

    • My feelings exactly. I’ve never cared about skin color or gender in my characters, just whether or not they’re awesome. Black Panther and Ms. Marvel would be great to bring into the MCU. Why? Because they’re awesome characters! Not because of skin color or gender. They’re just freaking sweet characters who in the comics do play quite a large part in the Avengers team at times. I wish these articles – and the people who make the movies – would just focus on the characters and story, instead of wasting their time trying to shoehorn in diversity. Guardians of the Galaxy has some nice “diversity” – and that just happened because of how the team is. Let it happen for the sake of story – not for the sake of demographics.

    • I’ve always felt that if a character is important to a storyline, then put them in, but don’t put them in if you’re simply doing it just to have them in there.

      • Well it’s nice to know I’m not the only one who feels this way :)

    • For the most part, I agree with what you are saying here. But I absolutely appreciate the Brother Voodoo mention.

  6. I’m sorry Hawkeye isn’t black Kofi. Screw contracts and plans, get that ^&%* arrow shooting white guy out of here.

    Yes, Falcon should be in Avengers 2.

  7. Marvel is most likely waiting until Cap 2 is released to see how the character is taken. Remember, these guys are all on the hunt for franchises they can scale and grow over multiple properties. If audiences love Falcon, you’ll definitely see him again in Avengers 2 and beyond.

  8. Although Falcon was cool in “Captain America: The Winter Soldier”, War Machine/Iron Patriot deserves a spot in “Avengers: Age of Ultron” more. That’s just my opinion.

    Plus, Nick Fury’s “small role” in “Avengers: Age of Ultron” is nothing to be concerned about. You’ll know why soon.

  9. Before i make my case, let me state that i don’t care what skin color an actor or character is….i just enjoy good acting and great character portrayal.

    Also remember there are hardly any absolutes when it comes to these types of debates…arguments of this caliber often exists in the gray area with valid points on both sides of the fence.

    I think we as a society have been conditioned to expect only one or two people of color in an ensemble cast at a time. For the longest, population demographics have been the excuse as to why, being that there used to be less minorities in the nation than the majority.

    This is no longer the case. Couple that with the fact that when comic books first started out it wasn’t the priority of writers to involve minorities as leading characters. Most of the famous super-heroes were created as white men. Imagine the psychological effect that has on young minority children. Never seeing someone to root for that looks like them. If the roles were reversed and the majority of super-heroes were all Hispanic, I’m sure some white children would find it refreshing to see a superman or a Captain america. As a child it makes the unbelievable more believable.

    As a child I didn’t think it was possible to be black and the president of the united states. Though I couldn’t understand the full reason why, it just seemed impossible based upon what was being shown. Now my kids have someone to look at in Obama and say hey this is possible.

    Lastly, if comic books were designed to give us an imaginative view of the world…why does it have to be imagined one way and adhered to the detail for detail…

    • I agree

    • This is ridiculous on so many levels. First of all, you must know absolutely nothing about comics. There have been black superheroes at Marvel since the sixties, just a few years after the debut of Spider-Man. So, “imagine(ing) the psychological effect” on children would be difficult. Further, concentrating on race is wrong. My favorite comic growing up was Luke Cage, and he didn’t “look like me” as you put it. And I hate to break this to you as this is a favorite of left-wing intellectual thought, but Hispanics are from Spain (hence the name) and many of them are “white” through and through.
      Finally, I am really sorry that your kids have to look at Obama as any kind of role model. It is hard to imagine a worse president. Let’s hope for your kids’ sake that the next “black” president isn’t so embarrassing. As you put it, I can only imagine the horrible “psychological effects” the disaster that is Barack Obama must be having on your children.

    • I agree.

      It’s probably too early to say if they have done a good job or a bad job on the issue of diversity in casting because we don’t know the entire cast. Having said that, let’s assume for the moment that they have done a horrible job in terms of showing diversity, and casting visible minorities in this film. (This may turn out to be the case but we don’t know at this point.) If this is the case, then it’s really interesting that they have done such a good job of showing racial diversity in other films such as the Captain America 2 and the Iron Man films. If there is a lack of racial diversity in this film, then perhaps it is because the director is just not aware (or does not care) that there are members of the audience for whom a lack of racial diversity in film presents an unrealistic view of the world (it’s like pretending that 99% of the people in New York City are white). Perhaps the director is also unaware (or does not care)that there are little boys and girls out there from many different races who would like to believe that they too could be superheroes, even though they are not white.

      I’m not suggesting for an instant that the director/ producer(s) are racist. I’m just saying that it would be a good thing if they were actually aware how important it is to reflect the cosmopolitan nature of our society in their movies.

  10. So, does this mean that they are going to have some Asian-Amenican characters (like Mantis and Monica Chang) too? Awesome!!!

  11. Just to clarify my statement on minorities out numbering the majority in the nation. I was referring to the new census data as it pertains to amount of minority childbirths outnumbering the amount of white children being born.

  12. Mark Ruffalo already puts his head in a toilet!? Lmao.

  13. I really, really hope Falcon is in Avengers 2. At least in like a major battle sequence when Avengers need help so they call Falcon and War Machine. He’s already in Avengers in that cartoon tv show so idgi, he should be Avengers.

  14. we dont need diversity. we need a great story and amazing characters. just throw a black and mexican in there for the heck of it… nah, id rather get story.

    • There is no reason why we can’t have diversity and a great story. These two things are not mutually exclusive. To suggest otherwise does not make sense.

      There are so many important roles that could be awarded to extremely talented actors of color. These roles might include: the president of the United States, the British Prime Minister, Doctors, Nurses, Agents of Shield, helicopter pilots, police officers, firemen(and women).

      There really is no excuse for not having more diversity than there was in the first Avengers movie.

  15. Kofi, that is a racist statement.

  16. I sure would like a black guy in the movie just so we have one!! CMON, WTF? If it fits the story GREAT but not just because we “NEED” diversity.
    I would really like Falcon and War Machine in there if it fits with the story and the need for them to help kill Ultron. NOT just because they are black! that is a LAME excuse why they should be in there IMO, Being Black should NOT be an excuse to squeeze an un-needed character into a story!!

    • There is no reason why we can’t have diversity and a great story. These two things are not mutually exclusive. To suggest otherwise does not make sense.

      There are so many important roles that could be awarded to extremely talented actors of color. These roles might include: the president of the United States, the British Prime Minister, Doctors, Nurses, Agents of Shield, helicopter pilots, police officers, firemen(and women).

      There really is no excuse for not having more diversity than there was in the first Avengers movie.

  17. Personally, I don’t care about whether or not a character is white, black, male, female, gay, atheist, Christian, young, old, dead, whatever. As long as they’re awesome. Also, I really want to see The Falcon in Avengers 2, there is little too no reason not to bring him back. Another thing, Sebastian Stan signed a 9-picture deal, could this mean that he’ll join The Avengers? I guess we’re gonna have to wait and see. Personally, I want to see Erik Selvig, General Ross, and Maria Hill return.

    • I’d love to see the Winter Soldier eventually turn into a good guy and join the Avengers. He could eventually be the replacement for Captain America when Chis Evans makes the switch from acting to directing.

      Having said that…

      There is no reason why we can’t have diversity and a great story. These two things are not mutually exclusive.

      There are so many important roles that could be awarded to extremely talented actors of color. These roles might include: the president of the United States, the British Prime Minister, Doctors, Nurses, Agents of Shield, helicopter pilots, police officers, firemen(and women).

      There really is no excuse for not having more diversity than there was in the first Avengers movie.

      It’s probably too early to say if they have done a good job or a bad job on the issue of diversity in casting, in the 2nd Avengers movie, because we don’t know the entire cast. Having said that, let’s assume for the moment that they have done a horrible job in terms of showing diversity, and casting visible minorities in this film. (This may turn out to be the case but we don’t know at this point.) If this is the case, then it’s really interesting that they have done such a good job of showing racial diversity in other films such as the Captain America 2 and the Iron Man films. If there is a lack of racial diversity in this film, then perhaps it is because the director is just not aware (or does not care) that there are members of the audience for whom a lack of racial diversity in film presents an unrealistic view of the world (it’s like pretending that 99% of the people in New York City are white). Perhaps the director is also unaware (or does not care)that there are little boys and girls out there from many different races who would like to believe that they too could be superheroes, even though they are not white.

      I’m not suggesting for an instant that the director/ producer(s) are racist. I’m just saying that it would be a good thing if they were actually aware how important it is to reflect the cosmopolitan nature of our society in their movies.

  18. Loving Sam Jackson’s shirt! I want one, haha. But really, he’s not going to be in the Avengers 2 much or at all?

  19. loving how everybody here’s like “we need good stories, diversity shouldn’t matter also I don’t care about skin color/gender” well then guys, if you don’t care, then what should it matter if they actually put more characters of color/females in them huh? alot of people actually DO care, and it’s not as if having more diversity negates having good and interesting stories.

    I for one do care, and I’m really grateful both the cast and different news sites (such as you screenrant, you’re doing a bang up job!) bring it up to be discussed. marvel’s already done such a successful job of launching this multimillion dollar franchise, and now they need to keep pushing their limits. the fact that we’re gonna get to see a movie with a talking raccoon and alien tree this summer should tell you what they can accomplish when they do. :)

    all that said, although I’m wary of it becoming overcrowded in AOU, I think stan and mackie could have some awesome cameos.

    • I agree with you

    • I agree, who wants to watch sausage festivals all the time? I’d prefer it if Marvel produced films where 70% or more of the cast where sexy females.

      It may not happen because Marvel is grossing north of 600 million per movie producing films for sausage lovers.

  20. Hey I know this isn’t the same is the movies BUT

    MCU does have the following…

    - 3 lead females on Agents of SHIELD (1 British, 1 American, 1 Asian American)
    - Jessica Jones show in the works
    - Luke Cage show in the works

    And why wasn’t Scarlet Witch, Peggy Carter, Agent 13, or Agent Hill mentioned as adding to diversity when it comes to the women factor?

    Cobie Smulders will have appeared as Agent Hill in 4 different MCU screenings (Avengers, Avengers 2, Agents of SHIELD, and Cap 2)

    Peggy Carter appeared in Cap 1, Cap 2, and the One Shot.

    Just want to make sure that we present the argument fairly. Yes, I agree that the main focus has been on the 5 major white dudes and 1 white chick but that is the story they started and its good. I don’t want to sacrifice story for being PC. Now that the MCU has been fairly firmly cemented in popularity we see that MCU is making strides in getting more diverse.

    • Oh yeah, forgot to add…MCU’s Guardians has diversity casting too!

      Vin Diesel
      Zoe Saldana
      Dave Bautista
      Benicio Del Toro
      Djimon Hounsou
      Glenn Close
      Karen Gillan

      • Gwyneth Paltrow also… (IM, IM2, IM3, Avengers)

        • Don’t forget Lady Sif!

  21. I am impressed with the falcon suit. But you know, I always imagined the live action costume would be red and white like in the comics.

  22. So the Captai America 2 article turned into a Racial soap box regarding race in comic book movies? Kofi you crap starting race card paying HACK!! movies based on source material written 10 and 20 years ago if not more is what it is. If you don’t agree with it, don’t read or watch it plenty of women and minorities are in role now.

    your part of the problem that keeps racial tension around. let me guess, you loved the casting of the human torch?

  23. hacks like Kofi are the reason racial tension will never go away. leave your political correctness, affirmative action B.S out of comics. if you don’t agree with casting choices, don’t watch!! its a joke to even mention this stuff regarding comics Kofi, let me guess, you agreed with the choice for human torch? “for Diversity”

    how you have a job writing is a complete joke in and of itself.

    • You are always holding back on your opinion….you should speak your mind. LOL.

    • @wade, what r u even doing here? Take your own medicine, dont like kofi? Don’t come here! Take your tension somewhere else where intolerance and hate is welcomed. Wondering why kofi has job? LOL! Start your own website and hire who u like! Guaranteed it would never b as awesome and successful as screenrant!

  24. Is Kofi ranting because he thinks his race partners are not being treated well in the MCU?

    • …race partners? that’s just…i don’t even…

      • Yeh! What does “race partners” mean? This does does not sound very inclusive to me. It doesn’t sound in keeping with the concept of brotherly love or the concept that we are all part of the human race.

    • What the… ? Please just go away. I believe I speak for most of us here when I ask this of you.

      • For God’s sake, what is this Hyoga1001 guy’s problem?

        • @MutantCity, poppasands and jeffro.

          This is a quote from the article that you obviously did not read.

          “it seems that The Avengers: Age of Ultron is going to be offering bigger action at the cost of soul… brothers”

          So what is wrong with Hyoga101′s statement?

          It’s clear to me now diversity to Kofi = black and black only. It’s almost laughable and for you fools to jump all over Hyooga instead of reading the article for what it is foolish too.

          • Yea, I easily picked up on that while reading the article. It appears to me Kofi is focused on fueling the race debate in superhero castings. I was wondering why the article was titled ‘Captain America 2 and Avengers 2 discussion’ when the content was nothing but the writer’s stance on Affirmative Action in casting choices.

            My opinion is, if a character is a certain way in the comics, make them that way in the films. I know Nick Fury was originally white, but I grew up on the black Fury, and enjoy that interpretation of him in the films. I love Michael B. Jordan as an actor, easily a likeable actor since I first saw him in season 1 of The Wire. I can see him doing the Human Torch justice, but I personally don’t agree with them making the change from source material.

  25. It’s probably too early to say if they have done a good job or a bad job on the issue of diversity in casting because we don’t know the entire cast. Having said that, let’s assume for the moment that they have done a horrible job in terms of showing diversity, and casting visible minorities in this film. (This may turn out to be the case but we don’t know at this point.) If this is the case, then it’s really interesting that they have done such a good job of showing racial diversity in other films such as the Captain America 2 and the Iron Man films. If there is a lack of racial diversity in this film, then perhaps it is because the director is just not aware (or does not care) that there are members of the audience for whom a lack of racial diversity in film presents an unrealistic view of the world (it’s like pretending that 99% of the people in New York City are white). Perhaps the director is also unaware (or does not care)that there are little boys and girls out there from many different races who would like to believe that they too could be superheroes, even though they are not white.

    I’m not suggesting for an instant that the director/ producer(s) are racist. I’m just saying that it would be a good thing if they were actually aware how important it is to reflect the cosmopolitan nature of our society in their movies.

  26. See, Jackson’s reason for not being in the Avengers is interesting. Talking about his character’s most likely not heavily in the Avengers movies because the only thing his character does is shoot a gun is probably true. So I wonder why is Black Widow is in it? would it have anything to do with her breasts and skin color? I understand plot comes before diversity, but at this point, it seems Marvel wants a “country club” type cast.

    • I don’t think it’s about skin color but about the characters themselves. I like the Nick Fury character, but I can see him not playing a big role in the second Avengers movie because in the first one he was basically there to get them together and motivate them when the time came. With all that done in the first one, I can see his role being limited in the second movie. It has nothing to do with the color of his skin, it’s about the roles his character play in the storyline.

  27. Kofi seems to have fallen into the same trap as many in Hollywood that call for diversity, but seems to think that this means black actor. There are Asian, Latin erc. characters too.

  28. “Number two, not having Falcon in the film is a crime because Falcon is pretty awesome in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and if you’re brining Jeremy Renner’s Hawkeye to the party, you might as well bring Falcon. I bet Hawkeye would run out of arrows before Falcon ran out of bullets and jet fuel; in any event, I’d love to see that competition take place in the midst of a battle sequence.”

    I have never understood all the Hawkeye hate. Hawkeye is awesome. They just need to give him more speciality arrows.

  29. So what’s Screen Rants fixation with race & sexual orientation?
    Isn’t Hollywood diverse enough for them as it is?