Joss Whedon: Black Widow is ‘A Huge Part’ of ‘Avengers: Age of Ultron’

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avengers age ultron black widow Joss Whedon: Black Widow is A Huge Part of Avengers: Age of Ultron

Joss Whedon got a whole lot right with his The Avengers screenplay, not least of which was to provide moviegoers with much richer portrayals of two previously-established Marvel Cinematic Universe players: Bruce Banner/Hulk (Mark Ruffalo) and Natasha Romanoff a.k.a. Black Widow (Scarlett Johansson). That Joss would manage to do justice by the latter came as little surprise, given that he has a history of crafting well-rounded (read: strong) female characters – and has publicly committed to continuing that practice in the future.

Case in point: the Marvel sequel, Avengers: Age of Ultron, will introduce Wanda Maximoff a.k.a. Scarlet Witch into the mix, and Whedon has indicated that we can expect her to be another interesting and well-crafted addition to the cast (with a proper and believable costume to reflect that). Black Widows fans do not need to worry about the character being sidelined, though, as Joss has gone on record to say that she’s an important player in the next mission for Earth’s Mightiest Heroes.

Here is what Whedon offered to the crowd at Nerd HQ during the 2013 Comic-Con last weekend (via MTV), with respect to Natasha’s relevance to the storyline for Age of Ultron – and why he enjoys writing the dangerous S.H.I.E.L.D. agent as much as he does:

“Natasha is a huge part of the sequel because you do want to concentrate on the people who don’t have their own franchises. Although [she’s] in ‘Cap 2,’ [and] she’s great. She was the most fun for me because she’s not a hero, you know, and it’s something that I read—and I feel bad that I can’t remember who wrote the book—but it’s in one of the books explaining, ‘These guys are heroes, you are a spy. It’s a different thing—it’s a different skill set—and you don’t have their moral high ground or any of that good stuff.’ And that just makes her so interesting to me. So yeah, the stuff I’ve got going on with her in the second one is killer.”

Marvel won’t be making a Black Widow standalone film anytime soon (sorry to say). However, audiences will get to learn more about her complicated history and ambiguous moral code – as Whedon referenced in the quote above – in Captain America: The Winter Soldier, which is where Natasha teams with Captain America/Steve Rogers (Chris Evans) on a variety of world-saving missions. There’s a good chance that her storyline in that film will tie-in closely to Natasha’s arc in Age of Ultron, based on the past reports about how the Captain America sequel has an important Phase 2 role (i.e. directly sets up events in Age of Ultron, like the first Captain America movie did for the original Avengers installment).

avengers hawkeye black widow Joss Whedon: Black Widow is A Huge Part of Avengers: Age of Ultron

Black Widow and Hawkeye in ‘The Avengers’

Similarly, Whedon has promised that Natasha’s S.H.I.E.LD. comrade-in-arms – her “bro-friend” if you like – Clint Barton a.k.a. Hawkeye (Jeremy Renner) will get to have more time to interact with his fellow Avengers in Age of Ultron (since he won’t have to spend part of the film under Loki’s control, like what happened in the first installment). There’s a decent chance that Black Widow and Hawkeye may even have their own subplot in the Avengers sequel, given their long-established connection.

Not to mention, that duo will be among the few important human players – who are not assisted by a mechanical super-suit (a la Iron Man) – in a world where there are more and more dysfunctional super-powered individuals showing up by the day – meaning, there are certain tasks that only the aforementioned deadly, but professional-minded, assassins should be trusted to carry out.

Are you excited to hear that Black Widow will play an important role in Avengers: Age of Ultron? Let us know in the comments section!


Thor: The Dark World opens in U.S. theaters on November 8th, 2013, followed by Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4th, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1st, 2014Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1st, 2015, Ant-Man on November 6th, 2015, and unannounced films for May 6th, 2016, July 8th, 2016 and May 5th, 2017.

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  1. No more second tier focus
    -Patton oswalt

    Idk about joss whedon, I think people give him a bit too much credit, this seems like a “meh” decision. Every female character he tries to make strong or focus on just seem like buffy clones.

    • The problem was that people NEVER gave Joss Whedon ENOUGH credit, quite the opposite of what you are saying. The Avengers was just a taste of the greatness that has now been unleashed upon the mass public audience. You wait and see, I will put my money where my mouth is and stand by this man full force.

    • I completely agree with you. Whedon is so over rated. So is Nolan.

      • Woah, woah.

        Please don’t put Nolan and Whedon in the same category. Nolan is WAY better at telling stories with amazing visuals. Whedon….I’ve never really understood his appeal.

        I guess the people who loved his Buffy show stuck by him no matter what he did and won’t hear a bad word about him but because I never saw the appeal in Buffy (found it to be horribly written, badly acted and with no likable characters), I haven’t seen the appeal in anything else he’s done since, mainly because everything else he’s done has the same qualities that made me dislike Buffy.

        He’s one of those writers where everything conveniently happens with no MacGuffin set up earlier on and that just doesn’t vibe with me. Others clearly like it and good for them but it’s not my bag and just because I admit to being a bit of a nerd, doesn’t mean I have to automatically love everything Whedon does like some people (especially in the SR comments) seem to believe.

        • @ Dazz

          Whoa, whoa………

          “Please don’t put Nolan and Whedon in the same category. Nolan is WAY better at telling stories with amazing visuals. Whedon….I’ve never really understood his appeal.”

          Are you kidding me? Nolan? That boy got lucky on a bunch of bad Batman movies that had groupie appeal; and I wouldn’t hold my breath for Interstellar if I were you, because all indications are that he’s in way over his head on that one.

          Whedon’s Firefly/Serenity alone is better than any of Nolan’s garbage. Stop being a DC fan boy and a Nolanite, and tell the truth. Nolan is NOT better than Whedon, at anything, period.

          • Lets not talk batman and talk memento one of the best psychologic thrillers of all time.

          • In the end, it’s all a matter of personal opinion, but I agree with you…Firefly/Serenity…need more of it!

          • What you just did is the very definition of being a hypocrite Nobody. How about instead you and Dazz should learn how to recognize good movies. The Dark Knight trilogy wasn’t groupie appeal, it was an all around awesome movie series with great actors, and believable action scenes(thank you Christopher Nolan). The Avengers was a kick ass movie that actually succeeded in uniting multiple characters in a believable way with great writing(thank you Joss Wheadon). In conclusion, please remove the heads out of your asses, and stop it with this ridiculously stupid Marvel vs Dc thing. It’s pointless.

            • Sorry… Nolan’s BatMan Trilogy is garbage! No Marvel vs. DC fanboy here. Just a fanboy of all comic, manga and anime! Batman begins… Horrible! Boring! So many adjectives, so little time. Me and my wife sat in the theater in TDK and we didn’t even care if Batman died and were actually hoping for it so there wouldn’t be a 3rd one! TDKR? If only misdirection were the standard by which all good movies were judged. Then that would make The Others a classic and 1 of the greatest movies ever. NO. Misdirection in TDKR was what that movie was about. Those Nolan movies sucked b8lls! Man of Steel was just as bad! Boring, tedious and repetitive! I didn’t know that someone named SuperMan needed so much help defeating someone who was just as strong and powerful as him. Actually, SuperMan should’ve had that advantage bc he already learned how to hone his powers but I guess Mr. Nolan didn’t see it that way! I see a bad omen hanging over the DC movies. Just like everyone else, they think good movies are based on how much money the movie makes. Which isn’t true. Marvel keeps screwing up they will find themselves with less and less fanboys in the near future.

              • Superman Vs Zod (etc) = Very powerful person who has honed their powers vs very powerful person who has had a lifetime of military training.

                I agree with you on Batman Begins, I watch it now and it’s pretty average. The Dark Knight however holds up very well. Dark Knight rises was an unfortunate mess though.

                Man of Steel was a very good restart to the character and I’m looking forward to seeing what they do, as long as they address him killing Zod in the next movie (which i think will be the catalyst for Batman going after him).

                Marvel isn’t perfect, but they’ve got a massive headstart on the shared universe thing. I was a bit disappointed in IM3 and am concerned in the apparent shift in tone between Thor 1 and 2 but I’ve got high hopes. I think Joss is a very talented filmmaker and as long as the emphasis on Black Widow helps the story and doesn’t take away from the main characters it’ll be fine.

                • Completely agree with you Musky.

              • Congratulations. You’re the stupidest person on the internet today. The Dark Knight trilogy garbage? Go hang out with the ten other people alive that agree with you.

                • +1

                  Agreed. This guy is a fruitcake that probably smoked too much crack before entering the theater. The way he structure his sentences, along with his bad taste, ultimately screams “annoying guy” in person.

                  Batman Begins was good.
                  The Dark Knight was perfect.
                  The Dark Knight Rises was average, but entertaining.

                  I don’t think this guy likes pretty much of anything.

                • Hey ppl, when did it become ok to to call others “stupid” or a “fruitcake” on this site? Is there really no way to disagree with someones opinion without resorting to such cheap shots?

                  • When it became OK for any anonymous person on the web to insult ANYONE just, well because. Read Yahoo responses at the bottom of their stories…you would swear Barack Obama is roasting children alive if read the comments and see how much respect Americans hold for their own leader. Society is dead and Ras Al Ghul was right…bring on the League of Shadows

                    • Oh, heaven forbid we criticize Obama. Worst president since Carter, and although you may not, history will judge him so.

                    • …and yet, Jeff, Carter and Obama are STILL infinitely better than Reagan (your highest god, I believe) and Bush, Jr….You always try to turn any little crack in a discussion into a portal for all of us to view your incessantly infantile political posturing.

                      BTW, before you attempt, foolishly, to twist the facts, the person to whom you were SUPPOSEDLY responding was not saying anything about Obama as a person…he was simply continuing the conversation about respect (including Obama, now that he’s in office, Reagan, when he was, et al). YOU are the one who had to take the low road and show just how truly pathetic you can be.

                      The fact is that EVERY PoTUS has had difficulties and made mistakes (many of them quite serious)…including He at Whose Feet you Worship. Get that through your stunningly thick skull.

                    • Maybe in your mind, Archaeon, but not according to history, nor the masses of people past or present. No one has won an election near as decisively, nor changed the world as much for the better, since Reagan left office. Even your apparent god, Obama, has attempted to compare himself to him on occasion. Don’t know who you are listening to (MSNBC?) or what books you are reading, but every time you comment, you display your ignorance for all to see. I’m tired of your personal attacks, so I am responding in kind.

                    • Heh-heh…TOO easy, Jeff.

                      I JUST finished telling you how inappropriate it is to bring up politics in the above particular discussion, but you still react as if I would ACTUALLY share with you my political views in THIS space. Did it not occur to you the blunt phrasing I used to contradict you (which, by the way, was effortless…you should reconsider your approach AND your timing) was obvious and cliche’? I said NOTHING (just as you do EVERY time you spit out your political phlegm) in DIRECT opposition to your bluster.

                      You THINK you are politically savvy. You are not.

                      Now, I’m done with this silliness…Hopefully, people will continue their pleasant discussion of the merits (or lack thereof, depending on their perspectives) of SJ in A2.


  2. Um, two words. HELLZ YEAH!!!

  3. I hate Black widow in first movie and now she have bigger role?

  4. Seriously, I think we’ve seen enough black widow. I wanna see more clint barton – HAWKEYE.

    • +1000

    • Me too. He should’ve been in Cap. America 2!! >:-(

    • He already said Hawkeye will have an important role.

  5. More Black Widow sounds awesome to me.

  6. whedon loves the chicks, i got a feeling ultrons gonna love her instead of the wasp because so far as we know shes not in it.

    • Id say pepper would be wasp’s replacement, if its indeed starks creation/rogue jarvis that becomes Ultron.

      I do shudder at the thought of pepper with her extremis powers in avengers though. And what, she starts calling herself Ms.Marvel? Dear god.

      • omg that’s like a friggin nightmare, please no

        • That could happen. If that happens, just no, just no.

      • They removed her “extremis” powers at the end of IM3.

        • Thank god lol

  7. Eh…not happy with it……

    But I guess give them their time to shine now….because they’re pretty useless against Thanos if he is indeed going to be the villain of 3.

  8. I wonder if there will be confrontation between Hawkeye & Capt. over Black Widow in the sequel.

  9. I hate black widow

    • Agent 13 vs. Black Widow fight. Cap and Agent 13 romance. Winter soldier and Black widow will have a romance. Black widow will be a spy to the highest bidder. Hawkeye and Black Widow will end up hating each other. Black widow will help steal important tech for main villain and help create ultron.

      Nobody ever thought that maybe there will be 2 Ultrons? One simple one that isn’t very powerful and not created by Ant-Man. Then another more sophisticated one created by Ant-Man following Avengers 2?

      those are my thoughts

      • @clay : That sounds very entertaining and would work smoothly, which is why I know it’s not going to happen. Black Widow and Hawkeye are space fillers, side arcs to cut to briefly between important scenes. Expanding further on Black Widow or Hawkeye would be like focusing on a helmet and what it does when the football player isn’t wearing it. Who cares?

        • @Reverse-Tyler

          Totally agree.

          They should stick to supporting roles in The Avengers and have a little more attention in Cap movies because a movie like The Avengers with a group of big personalities shouldn’t have to divert away from the main plot to talk more about lesser characters like Hawkeye and Black Widow when that could happen in movies with just one or two dominating characters at most.

          • Unless those lesser characters are given something more to do with the plot, like Black Widow going rogue or something and helping Ultron.

            I have this theory that maybe Ultron will be a product of SHIELD, and that their phase two ‘weapons’ will actually be Ultron, born from reworked Hydra Tech. When Ultron goes wonky and starts killing humanity, the Avengers will split from SHIELD and do their own thing, while maybe Black Widow splits from both, not trusting either.

        • Personally I’d like to see an actual Black Widow & Hawkeye movie based on the at least her comic back story and the little back story – cause I want to know what happened in Budapest.

  10. I like Black Widow played by Scarlett, so I like hearing this. Hawkeye and Renner, I’m not so much a fan of.

  11. What if she dies in the avengers 2?

    • I hate Black widow ,but I don’t wanna see her dies in A2 because if any one die in A2 he/she going to shine. If she dies in first act then its great.

  12. Black Widow was my favorite character in The Avengers, and I’m super excited to see her expanded roles in Cap 2 and A2.

    I actually like how they use her without her own film. Her character is based on relationships and her manipulation of others, a solo outing would not do her justice as she needs others major characters (good and bad) to work off of.

    Both of her reverse interrogation scenes are pitch perfect. The first, she is in complete control even tied to a chair and facing torture. The second she has to let out enough real emotion to elicit the response from Loki she needs to figure out his game.

    Her trying to talk Banner down from Hulking out and the subsequent chase.

    Her short but impactful scenes with Hawkeye. The way Cap trusts Barton because a simple nod from Widow. It speaks volumes without saying much.

    More, more, more… but not too much. Keep that balance.

    • + a million

    • Very well said, I’m sure Joss will find the right balance. He’s also going to have Scarlet Witch to work with, so he won’t need to limit himself to like 3 named female characters (Natasha, Hill, Pepper), from which only one is a “hero”.

  13. Johansson can’t act her way out of a wet paper bag. If she didn’t have big boobs and a tiny waist, nobody would cast her in anything. I wish they would recast the role.

    • I also want that. With this cast I prefer Hill over widow.

    • that’s two powerful reasons right there

    • @Vicki S

      That sounds like petty jealousy there.

      She can definitely act although I must admit that my first viewing of The Avengers was spent mostly on staring at Scarlett (probably because the movie itself didn’t engage me at all).

    • Hummm, I disagree about not being able to act.

      Compared to say KStew or Gina Carano who can’t compete against blocks of wood, Johansson has some talent.

    • Maybe she’s not on the level of Meryl Streep, but I’ve never had a problem with Scarjo’s acting. Jeremy Renner, on the other hand, has not convinced me that he is a good actor. He was okay I guess as Hawkeye, but really did not work for me in Mission Impossible. On the other side of the spectrum, he seemed really out of his element on SNL.

      • I guess The Hurt Locker doesn’ t count?
        Although Hansel and Gretal put him on the mat

    • Well, that wasn’t incredibly sexist or anything. Have you seen any of her movies besides “The Avengers” and “Iron Man 2″? She was nominated for a Golden Globe.

      Maybe she’s no Meryl Streep, but she has talent.

      Dame Helen Miller constantly got this very same criticism when she was at the start of her career. She was constantly questioned and told that she’s just a pair of pretty breasts. That pretty actresses cannot be good/or serious actresses, because they’re just eye-candy and nothing more.

      So is this still the 50s?

      Ask the question, are you judging actors and actresses by the same standard? Or are you automatically expecting more from a woman?

      Chris Evans is about the same level as Scarlett Johansson (in my opinion) when it comes to acting (you just need to see them in different roles) and yet nobody is accusing Chris Evans that he’s just a pretty face and a nice butt.

      • Agreed.

  14. More Scarlett Johansson in the next Avengers flick gives me hope that the sequel will be better.

    Bring on Scarlett. LOVE HER. Also looking forward to Scarlet Witch. Actually think Whedon will cast a good actress that will also be eye candy on the screen. And hopefully Maria Hill will be back.

    The more women the better!

    Why anyone else would prefer to see more RDJ or any of the other males in the cast is beyond me. ( unless they are female Avengers’ fans )

    • Yeah, would much rather see Black Widow doing the same ol’ thing as last time…….firing her guns and having the story contrived to give her some manner of self worth.

      I personally find a real superhero who who shrinks down to 1/2″ tall and then grows to 100′ a BIT more interesting.

  15. Hell yeah she’s going to have a bigger role, do you know the women playing it?! Scarjo.

    Behind Downey jr, she was the second biggest reason for Avengers success. Yeah yeah don’t give me all the crap about its a good comic book film

    • I think hulk was second reason.

      • Which is weird. You Americans and your craziness.

        I thought Hulk’s appearance in the movie did nothing for me or the story overall. It was just an excuse for Whedon to write two scientific geniuses (genii?) in sarcastic conversation (a staple of Whedon’s work, smartass scientific types trying to one-up each other) and then have a convenient method of stopping that giant whale thing when the team were in danger.

        The only highlights of the first one were RDJ and Hiddleston. Everything else was just there and forgettable.

        • You really didn’t burst out laughing and cheer when Hulk pummeled Loki to near death and then called him a “Puny God”? Come on.

          • Seems like he’s just one of those guys that finds any reason at all to not like this movie.

        • Sounds like you just don’t like super heros Jazz… I mean you just described Hulk’s powers as “a convenient method of stopping that giant whale thing.” By the definition of “convenient method” you must find the fact that Tony Stark made a super suit, CAptain American being giving super strength, and Thor being a God all “convenient methods” as well. Wow it was awfully convenient that Thor was able to shoot lighting at those whale things.” “Boy it was awfully convenient that Captain America was able to find police officers.” “Holy smokes! It’s awfully convenient that Iron Man was able to find a small hole to fly through and cause those aliens to crash.” Why do you keep commenting on these pages about a film franchise/genre that you obviously hate?

        • @ Dazz

          I am not American. I agree Hulk do nothing. I like only RDJ. But if u ask me for second reason then it is Hulk.

          Here is my mark for characters out of 100

          Tony 100
          Hulk 25 ( banner 0 , hulk 20)
          Maria hill 23
          Loki 18
          CA 17
          Hawk eye 15
          Thor 10 (like only Iron man vs Thor fight)
          Black widow and nick fury -100

          Whenever Black widow and Maria hill share screen, I stare More at Hill.

          • * hulk 25 (banner 0 ,hulk 25)

        • Are you even a superhero fan? Or a comic fan for that matter?
          You sound like those pinheads at RT.

  16. Love the Black Widow!!
    This is great news!!

  17. I hope that Black Widow dies. I really do and Hawkeye as well.

  18. LAME.

    I’m sorry but this movie is going from bad to worse.
    How about add some awesomeness ?
    First : no antman with ultron, then more hawkeye now more black widow in the screenplay instead of hulk or other real superheros.
    I don’t think poeple want to see the same chick with her lame two pistols doing the same thing over again.

    I don’t know why they doing this, don’t they listen to the fans ?

    • +1

    • Calm down man! Ant Man is getting his own movie! Plus Hawkeye and Black Widow are not getting their own movies,so it makes sense that they would get a little bit more attention. I agree that should mean Hulk gets a lot more as well but Thor,Iron Man and Captain America have their own movies. It’s good to see other people get attention as well!

      • I think when he said Ant-Man he really meant Pym. 😉

      • They are secondary character, and it is not for nothing. I think Black Widow had her big screen share begining with Iron Man 2 and it would be good to move on. I can understand the choice for Hawkeye as it has not really been himself for the first Avengers movie, but Black Widow have. I really feel that the script is written in regard of the screen time that some actors have negotiated in their contract. And I feel a little taken for a fool when Whedon says she is a big part of history… I can not help but think that the Shield (and his agents) are essential elements of the scenario because of the future TV show.

        There are plenty of other female character that we can explore and true superhero, not spies who no longer have any use when a real enemy arrives.

        But again, this is just my personal opinion :)

    • @ Martin

      You clearly do not know what you are talking about.


      What are you, some kind of DC honk?

      Geeezzz. Get a clue.

      “I don’t think people want to see……..”

      You should have stopped after your first three words in that sentence, at least they were accurate.


      • @nobody

        After reading your comment, I’m going to quote from it as a request to avoid future calamities like the one you posted just now.

        “You clearly do not know what you are talking about….STOP….WRITING YOUR COMMENTS”

        How is he a “DC honk” (whatever that means…implied racism?) for feeling worried about the direction of a movie? It’s almost like the ridiculous comments I had to read as a History student when we studied the Cold War and propaganda pieces said that if a US citizen disagreed with US political policy then they must be a Commie spy.

        It borders on the ridiculous and it really irritates me to see people with genuine opinions being shouted down by people and called a “fanboy” or “shill” for “the other side”.

        It’s very immature of you and others guilty of doing the same. It implies that people can’t enjoy both Marvel AND DC, which is wrong.

        Some could try to call me a DC shill for thinking The Avengers was a terrible movie but you know what? I consider them to be immature trolls because I grew up reading and enjoying Marvel and didn’t start reading DC until a few years ago (in fact, my childhood was spent reading Marvel and 2000AD comic books while enjoying Batman: The Animated Series and the Batman movies but never really venturing into DC’s books).

        The sooner people stop this silliness, the better.

        • Dazz…

          Remember that you’re talking to “nobody”, someone so incapable of carrying on an intelligent conversation/debate with ANYONE and so unwilling even to try, that he mindlessly calls everyone who does not agree with his narrow, often silly view of the world a DC (fill-in-the-blank) or the even less creative “Nolanite”. Pity nobody…this is as much as he is capable of in terms of simple social interaction.

          Now, for MY part, I found “The Avengers” to be very entertaining fluff. I look forward to seeing what development will have occurred on and within the team by the time A2 hits theaters…if any.

      • Wow, why the hate ? O_O

        I never said I preferred Marvel to DC. I just share my concern for the upcoming Avengers. But I loved the first and I am a real fan of the Marvel Universe (and DC).

        I’m not going to argue here because I feel it it will be useless. One does not reason a troll.

    • +50
      Thank you man, while I am equally into the DC and Marvel films. I have been shocked how many people are ignoring the glaring oddities of the developing Avengers sequel. No antman is really irking me, and now I learn we get way more Hawkeye and Widow? I think it will be good but I am really scratching my head at some of the info released thus far. I have to say my excitement for Guardians is way higher than Avengers .

      • Exactly my point of view. I anticipate much Guardian Of The Galaxy. For now Avengers 2 reminds me of the first heated with characters I did not really want to see.

  19. Joss keep the “Chemical Mixture” an equal spread just as you did the first time…

  20. This is good news. But I’m still worried about Scarlet Witch and Quicksilver being in the movie. I mean, I don’t even care about Ultron being the bad guy without Ant man there to create him. If there is no Magneto in the Avengers age of Ultron I wonder how they are going to explain their origins. And will there be mutants in Whedon’s universe?.

    • No classic mutants but rather altered humans from terregen mists is the word around the campfire.. So basically same thing as mutants they just not born with the genes.

    • To be fair, although we always knew that SW and QS were mutants in the comics, we learned that they were Magneto’s children much later on.

      Maybe Whedon is going the same way for his movie, which would give him time t negociate some arrangement regarding the rights of “mutant” characters.

  21. With all do respect I watch avengers for the superheroes.. Not the spies.

  22. Want A hulk sequel and more hulk in Avengers, not really a big fan of Black Widow, would rather see something different like maybe She-Hulk, Wasp, or Marvel Woman/ War bird.

  23. Very VERY disappointed they can give someone who IS pretty superfluous to the story (even in The Avengers) a bigger part but can’t manage to give the real founding members of the Avengers their due? Wtf is this……Did Fox buy Marvel from Disney or what. :/

    • Right! You can’t make a train move until you give it the engine…unless you just want it to roll downhill! Giant_Man/Goliath (Pym) and Wasp (Janet Van Dyne) are MUSTS!

  24. Anyone else think that Whedon’s script might be getting a little bit crowded? With the intro of Scarlet Witch and her brother, along with saying that both Black Widow and Hawkeye will have extended roles in this one. Not to mention the entirely new origin story of Ultron, hope i get to see some good Thor and Banner action.

  25. Lets not take this comment to far, whedon also stated the avengers would be through the eyes of steve rogers, it wasnt. Whedon talks a big game but his press words never are fully reflected on screen. That isnt to say the film wont be good

  26. Looking forward to this a lot i am really glad to hear that Whedon is learning from the first Avengers movie even though it was really really good. I like how Hawkeye and Black Widow are getting larger roles i think that they are both really interesting characters both played by good actors and I feel like they deserve a greater role. I hope Hawkeye gets to make fun of Cap calling him glamor pants like he did in the old comics i always found that funny i also want Hawkeye to argue with Quicksilver that would be really entertaining.

  27. People take things to literal. It’s not like she will be the only person developed in this film. She and Hawkeye are important characters to this universe because of their ties to SHIELD, so it only makes sense that are developed a bit.

  28. It’s all well and good to say she’s “just a spy” and has no super powers, but if you actually do some research it’s said that Black Widow does in fact have the ability of Hypnosis, slowed ageing, enhanced immune system, abnormally superior athletic condition etc etc. These are things that not just every human possesses.

  29. Widow, Hawkeye, bigger parts. Oh, OK. But..I would rather see Goliath and Wasp in here. Glad to see Scarlet Witch and quicksilver have parts. Really pumped for this movie, but Pym not making Ultron is Marvel making another mistake.