‘The Avengers: Age of Ultron’ Features New Character Origin; No Ant-Man?

Published 2 years ago by , Updated December 12th, 2013 at 2:16 pm,

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When The Avengers broke worldwide box office records, it was only a matter of days before Disney’s leadership confirmed a sequel. The Avengers 2 got an official summer 2015 release date with the specific note that the film was untitled, leading us to believe that like all of the non-Iron Man films, future Avengers films would utilize specific subtitles instead of embracing a numbering scheme.

At the end of Marvel Studios’ Comic-Con 2013 panel, after footage was shown for the Thor and Captain America sequels, along with Guardians of the Galaxy, Joss Whedon came on stage and announced the title of the next project he’s writing and directing: The Avengers: Age of Ultron.

In chatting with Marvel.com today, Joss Whedon revealed some key points about the title and story Age of Ultron. The most important note is that despite the title, the film is not based on the “Age of Ultron” Marvel Comics miniseries from earlier this year.

“We’re doing our own version of the origin story for Ultron. In the origin story, there was Hank Pym, so a lot of people assumed that he will be in the mix. He’s not. We’re basically taking the things from the comics for the movies that we need and can use. A lot of stuff has to fall by the wayside.”

What’s interesting about the first appearance of Ultron in the late ’60s is that part of mysterious introduction had the character using a brainwashed Edwin Jarvis – Tony Stark’s butler – in his plans against The Avengers. In the films, Jarvis (voiced by Paul Bettany) takes the form of Stark’s assistant AI who has an integral role in his workshop and helping Stark command his Iron Legion of additional armored suits in battle.

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In the comics, genius scientist Henry Pym (Ant-Man) is responsible for the creation of Ultron, but if Pym is not part of the plan then Whedon isn’t joking about crafting their own Ultron origin story. The simple theory then is that Stark (Robert Downey Jr.) is perhaps responsible for the creation of Ultron and that Jarvis – in a twist on the Marvel Comics origin – may go rogue.

“We’re crafting our own version of it where his origin comes more directly from The Avengers we already know about. It’s a little bit darker than the other film because Ultron is in the house. There’s a science fiction theme that wasn’t there in the other one. Ultron is definitely something that evolves, so we’re going to get together a couple of different iterations. Nothing can be translated exactly as it was from the comics; particularly Ultron.”

The origin of Ultron stemming from the original Avengers roster adds more credence to the idea that Stark may be involved and such a plot would offer the needed motivator to get Stark back into the Iron Man armor after the events of Iron Man 3. As for there being no Hank Pym in the story, it would be odd for Marvel to not take advantage of their highest profile and most successful brand to help launch one of their riskiest in Ant-Man, a film that happens to come out just months after The Avengers: Age of Ultron. Don’t be surprised to meet Ant-Man, whether its Hank Pym or another incarnation of the character, in The Avengers 2.

Fun Fact: In Marvel Comics, Ultron is the creator of Vision, the eventual android Avenger and love interest of Scarlet Witch.


More: Does Tony Stark Create Ultron in ‘The Avengers 2′?


Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on November 6, 2015, and unannounced films for May 6 2016, July 8 2016 and May 5 2017.

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  1. Is it at all possible that at the end of IM3, JARVIS didn’t want to blow up every suit? Maybe he turned or got hacked into. Then leaving one or more suits to himself, being an AI, he perfected and reinvented himself as Ultron. Or again, he was being manipulated, hacked.

    Just a theory.

    • I also believe Jarvis would evolve into Ultron as well. He is a very powerful AI and was damaged during Iron Man 3. It would not be that difficult for Jarvis to become corrupted and transform into Ultron. Also Jarvis does have the data on Stark’s Iron Man armors as well as the capability to create them.

  2. It’s too bad Pym won’t be Ultron’s creator! They often play with the fact that he feels guilty and responsible for everyone he hurts!

  3. Agree with the logic of Ultron being Stark tech gone wrong. But I would love to see it actually be Justin Hammer getting revenge from Iron Man 2 by trying to prove himself better than the Avengers.

  4. I don’t mind the idea of JARVIS being Ultron, but I really hope that they explain that it was created by Hank Pym. I mean seeing as how Ant-Man is the next movie after. Perhaps he could still be the scientist who creates Ultron via the fact that Ultron was initially was created to be helpful towards mankind. So it would make sense if it worked as follows.

    Tony has hung up his suit, ready to give the gig a rest.

    This leads to our other scientist thinking that this might be his chance to really shine and make his name in the world. Perhaps he thinks that having a mortal man in the suit is what makes it flawed, that Iron Man would have never disappeared or let the things that have happened take place if it was just the highly intelligent AI.

    Hank either finds part of the Iron Man suit (which seems unlikely), or asks his fellow scientist, Tony, for a copy of JARVIS for something he is working on to help humanity (Tony agrees, seeing as how he still wants to better the world to make up for his mistakes, or perhaps Hank just steals JARVIS from him.)

    Hank builds the ever evolving Ultron bot, and loads up JARVIS, but he has made some adjustments so that JARVIS is not just a butler, but has a mind of his own, or something along those lines. Those adjustments work for the worse and BINGO Ultron, the villain, is created.

    Honestly that doesn’t seem like too much to thrown into a movie, just a couple scenes of showing him making the thing, or heck even someone mentioning that “Hank took things a little too far in building this thing.” Just something along those lines would be perfect. Seeing as how the next Marvel movie after this is Ant Man, it would be a brilliant transition into why Hank suits up to begin with (in order to actually do some good in the world.) As well as show that THIS is where Hank starts hating himself, giving him that arrogant abusive personality, AND show why he seems to rub the other Avengers the wrong way sometimes.

  5. I think the shield would make it and kick out the avengers till ultron goes against humanity and then they need the avengers to stop it

  6. Maybe they could use the rest of the Destroyers body to make him

  7. I have this really amazing idea……Hank Pym invents Ultron!!!! Why do they need to change anything??? Its all there. 50 years of history and they have to change it. Why??

    • The thing is, Marvel already makes multiple universes in their comics. So they figured They would again make a different universe for their movies and shows. Which actually was a good idea, if only for the very reason of movies and comics are a very different format, and we have seen how well books get translated into movies. So instead of messing up the beautiful they have already made, they decided to get a fresh start. Truthfully I think they have been doing a great job, I can’t think of one of the movies I really don’t like, I mean Iron Man 2 wasn’t so good, but I still had a lot of fun watching it.

      So unfortunately that is why they can’t use they original material, but on the plus side, they aren’t messing up that story by bringing it to the big screen either. Which means that the universe in the comics stays just that, they don;t have to account for the movies and change the comics either. Otherwise both would get messed up.

  8. The scene where Stark is saying “It’s the end of the path i started us on”

    Is that the shed from the third Iron Man movie where the boy (Harley Keener) is? If it is why is he there? Has he had to go to somewhere he can trust to rebuild a suit to take on Ultron?