The Avengers 2: Kevin Feige & Brian Michael Bendis Talk Ultron Story & Loki

Published 2 years ago by , Updated August 1st, 2013 at 12:13 pm,

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After presenting footage for each of the Phase Two films of the Marvel Cinematic Universe leading up to The Avengers 2, Joss Whedon took to the stage at San Diego Comic-Con this weekend to show fans a little something special – a teaser introducing the title of the sequel to be The Avengers: Age of Ultron. The video revealed the villain, hinted at his origin, and the title (mostly) spoke for itself.

Although Ultron has been a part of Joss Whedon’s story plans for the next team-up movie since he began working on the script, it took Marvel some time to come up with the final title, and the one they chose, doesn’t actually have much to do with the comic book miniseries of the same name that debuted earlier this year.

Speaking with Empire, Marvel Studios President of Production Kevin Feige was quick to clarify that while “Age of Ultron” was the best title for the film, Joss Whedon’s story has little to do with the Age of Ultron story in Marvel Comics from earlier this year.

“It’s not that [run's] story, but it’s that title. It’s been in the works for seven or eight months… There are some things in this movie, that you’ll see in 2015, that arise directly from casual conversations Joss and I had on the set of the first one. ‘Would it be cool if…?’ ‘That would be cool!’”

“We came up with a few titles, but every month a new comic book appeared, and that’s a great title. Age Of Ultron is a great title. We had a few other ‘Of Ultrons’, but that was the best one. So we’re borrowing that title, but taking storylines from decades of Avengers comics.”

And that’s a good thing considering the comic series written by Brian Michael Bendis – the man also behind the story of Marvel Heroes video game – was critically torn apart.

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While elements of Marvel Comics stories over the years relating to Ultron may be used, his origin will be entirely different since his original creator, Hank Pym, won’t be in the film. From the teaser introducing Ulton as the villain of The Avengers sequel, it’s clear that Ultron is formed from Iron Man armor so it’s our belief that Tony Stark – and perhaps something to do with his AI assistant Jarvis going rogue – will be used to create the new antagonist. But that’s just speculation on our part.

Feige continues, explaining that seeing Hiddleston on stage playing Loki was the best Comic-Con moment of the dozen or so years he’s attended the annual event and he hinted that Loki could return down the line after Thor: The Dark World. “We think Loki could be the big bad for us, for a long time.” When Empire assumed Loki wasn’t in the sequel, Kevin Feige asked if the interviewer was “sure about that” even though Whedon went on record previously stating Loki wasn’t a part of his script.

For Marvel Comics readers displayed with the Age of Ultron series and concerned about The Avengers sequel following it, Bendis took to his personal Tumblr blog and confirmed otherwise, reiterating Feige’s words:

As has already been revealed… not much. my story was based on the concept that Ultron had been a threat to us for many many years while Joss’ story is the birth of Ultron as it relates to the Marvel cinematic universe.

Joss’ has a fantastic take on the character. big surprise icon smile The Avengers 2: Kevin Feige & Brian Michael Bendis Talk Ultron Story & Loki

Our questions relate to whether or not Ultron will lead to the introduction of Vision in the Marvel Cinematic Universe, a character Ultron creates in Marvel Comics, and how new heroes Quicksilver and Scarlet Witch will play into the film’s story.


Thor: The Dark World on November 8, 2013, Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014The Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on November 6, 2015, and unannounced films for May 6 2016, July 8 2016 and May 5 2017.

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  1. I can’t wait for them to crap on this source material like they crapped on Mandarin. Keep it up Marvel, you’ll find those big bucks won’t be so big in the future.

    • Yes, what they are doing now is making a quick buck (or billion?) at the expense of both loyal and future fans of their comics. When this superhero movie bubble bursts, Marvel will be left with no one to read their comics.

  2. I really hope they change their mind and use Hank Pym in a cameo, like he should help tony stark with the overall design of Ultron. I think that would be better than Tony Stark making Ultron. But the way Iron man 3 ended was pretty predictable that Tony would build a robot to take his place in future films. When they announced Ultron as the villain it became obvious that that’s the direction the were going in. Still hope that Pym will at least cameo in it. That way they could set him up for his solo film

  3. I’m still looking forward to this movie, even though I’m highly disappointed that they decided to not include Hank Pym as Ultron’s creator. The movie will still be a good movie, entertaining and all, it’s just very disappointing that, if the hints point in the right direction, Stark will be the creator (with or without his knowledge, I don’t know). I must admit it makes sense, for the MCU. Nevertheless, it doesn’t seem to make sense to a good proportion of the fans, but we’ll see how it turns out. We can’t say the movie will be bad because they change the origin story, from the 616 universe. After all, they pretty much changed everything from the Avengers’ origin in the first movie (from the 616U), and it still was good. I would have liked it if they kept more in pace with canon, but still, I enjoyed the movie.

    Having said that, I saw a video of the interview Kevin Feige gave and that is quoted in this article. It’s sort of funny, because when the reporter asked Feige about Hank Pym being the creator of Ultron in the movie, Feige turned his head slightly around and paused before answering, as if he concentrated to keep it straight while giving his answer… it almost seemed like “geez… there’s my cue… text!”. Well, I could be imagining things also ;-) But, contrary to Whedon, he didn’t talk about Pym’s presence in TA2, or lack of. He just said that Hank Pym will get to shine in his own movie, set after TA2. “His own movie”, meaning Ant-Man will be all about Pym? (Hopefully, NO Scott Lang…!)

    And it’s funny that the pic of Ultron in this article is shown around on several websites along with the news of TA2. People not familiar with Ultron will probably be wondering what’s that he’s holding in his hand! Knowing the story of Ultron, I personally think this is a very powerful image. Too bad, for the average Marvel fan, who only knows the MCU, this image will mean nothing at all, and will even be considered inacurate :-(

    • I actually like Scott better, as Antman and as a character. More relatable and believable. Hank doesn’t really have much “interesting” going for him. He has Ultron, but while it added some depth it got to where he became annoying about the whole thing (like the ordeal with his wife and his hand). Basically he gave us a cool villain, partially and indirectly became responsible for the great character Vision, and gave us more chances to see his better half (literally) Janet.

      • Well, that’s your opinion. We all have our favourite characters, and those we like less (or don’t like at all).

        I’ve always found Hank Pym to be a very multi-dimensional character, very developped character-wise. He is not defined only by Ultron in the comics, neither is he by Janet. There were comics runs where he was an Avenger, and Janet was not, or he was WCA and she was East coast, and the characters were still very interesting. I’ve already written on another thread some of his accomplishments, so I won’t repeat myself. But I disagree with you in the fact that he has A LOT of interesting things going for him.

        As for Lang, I’ve always found him to be very generic, unidimensional, and not that extraordinary. Apart for having stolen the Ant-Man gear, and becoming Ant-Man, what was his contribution to the Marvel Universe? He sure hasn’t made the suit, does he even know the exact science behind it? He has no real accomplishment to show, positive or negative. His daughter was a more popular character than he is.

        But that is only my opinion. I would never go bashing on someone because they prefer Lang ;-)

      • I of course agree wit MJ and find Scott Lang’s character to be pretty one dimensional…..becomes a criminal and steals suit to help sick kid. How cliche is that? He then just starts helping the Avengers. Not really a whole lot of interesting meat on that bone imho.

  4. More Hulk, he needs a sequel and explain The Leader a bit in it dealing with S.H.I.E.L.D . Maybe show a super Prison for Superpowered beings.

  5. Loki’s future fate will be explained in Thor: Dark World, so let’s just wait and see. But honestly, Tom Hiddlestone loves playing that character A LOT, and I sure don’t mind seeing him cameos in the future Marvel movies.

  6. I’m glad they don’t get rid of Loki. Last weekend Tom showed to Marvel and the world that people love Loki, they were crazy about him at the comic con. This character is mysterious and complex, he’s got lots of potential and room for development and Marvel has to live with the chance! I don’t understand people who say “Oh no, Loki as a villain again, soooo boring”. Really? I’m more bored of Iron Man for the 5th time, to be really honest. Don’t get me wrong, I love Iron Man, but sometimes he’s just too much (I guess I’m just not into Tony Stark’s humour). There are way more interesting characters than Iron Man in my opinion (Loki and Natasha Romanoff, for example). If they bring back Iron Man again and again and again why not do that with other characters?! ANY character can be boring if they bring them back MANY times, NOT ONLY LOKI!!! WE all have favourite characters and the ones we don’t really like and that’s OKAY! Marvel is just trying to please EVERYONE! Just make sure the characters stay interesting and then it doesn’t matter how many times you bring them back! : ) PEACE! (Sorry for my bad English, it’s not my native language).

  7. I have info. Don’t worry. Pym is THE creator of Ultron. Ultron creates himself in this. Ultron was created by Pym, but Ultron used the pym particles to learn about space time, he traps pym in a timeloop where he constantly dies. Eliminating pym from existance in our timeline. It’s the only way Ultron can achieve world domination, because Pym WILL stop him. (only way to keep Pym relevant as well, since Edgar delayed it so much)

    Ultron will be a creation of Hydra/Oracle/Shield/Stark…but he put himself there. Ultron is engineering his creation in the current timeline. As an AI, he put himself with Hydra and Zola, and it will appear for a bit as if the AI was developed by Zola/Oracle..and his body is created by stark. Josses comments…you don’t need A Pym to create AN Ultron”…why didn’t he say “you don’t need pym to create ultron?” A Pym An Ulton…the thing is that everything on earth in phase 2 was basically manipulated by Ultron…that’s the twist guys.

    Don’t worry…if I can, I am gunna delete this very soon, cause I shouldn’t be saying this.

    • I would say you just made that up, friend ;-)

      First of all, you don’t make much sense because basically, you said:

      - Pym is the creator of Ultron
      - Ultron creates himself in this
      - Ultron will be a creation of Hydra/Oracle/Shield/Stark

      So erh… which is it? :-P

      I’m sorry, but your idea is very hard to comprehend, and you’re not making much sense… maybe I’m just tired, but it all seems waaaaay too complicated.

      And what the heck do Pym Particles have to do with space-time? They’re subatomic particles that enables someone to send or gain mass by displacing it from our dimension to an adjacent dimension. It has nothing to do with time displacement.

      Sorry. Not buying it at all.

  8. can’t delete it, damn. well…maybe I made that stuff up, maybe it was speculation, or maybe it was legit…

  9. Could Loki appear in Avengers 2? Fine. More Loki is always good!