‘Arrow’ Casting for Nightwing? DC TV & Movie Universes NOT Connected?

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You have to hand it to Batman: he’s making headlines without having to get out of bed these days. As the rumor mill surrounding his next big screen appearance in Batman vs. Superman runs at full capacity, the most recent gossip has hinted that Dick Grayson, Batman’s former sidekick Robin, would appear in the film in his Nightwing persona – and that Warner Bros. is already casting.

It seems that during all that excitement, TV fans might have overlooked the hints that Nightwing would first be making his debut in The CW’s Arrow. The Vampire Diaries‘ Steven R. McQueen has been implying that’s the role he’s after, and the network may have already agreed. But would this casting mean that the Green Arrow series isn’t in the Justice League universe after all?

Although official word Warner Bros. hasn’t been released on either casting process (or even confirmation), McQueen took to his Twitter account to playfully tease a Grayson-connection during one of his workout sessions:

Lifting weights while bearing a superhero’s insignia is nothing new, but the fact that the actor linked the Tweet to the accounts of the Arrow showrunners was suspicious. The playful replies from Greg Berlanti seemed to hint that even if McQueen was simply teasing his fans while showing his love for DC Comics, more was going on behind the scenes.

Then came the following Tweet just yesterday:

The obvious question on every DC fan’s mind: has Steven R. McQueen revealed that he is at least in talks with the Arrow showrunners to bring Dick Grayson to life on the small screen?

We wouldn’t be too surprised if that were the case, given the number of times that the city of Bludhaven has been mentioned offhand by numerous characters (for those unfamiliar with the comics, Bludhaven was adopted early on as Dick Grayson’s stomping grounds). But given Grayson’s tutelage under Batman – a character noticeably absent from Arrow thus far – what are the writers up to?

Stephen Amell as Oliver Queen in Arrow City of Heroes Arrow Casting for Nightwing? DC TV & Movie Universes NOT Connected?

There’s no question that Nightwing is a perfect fit for Arrow‘s grounded approach to DC’s catalogue of heroes and villains; arguably a far better fit than many that have made their way onto the show already, and much easier to grasp than the injection of superspeed on its way. But if the character is simultaneously being cast for both the TV show and the motion picture, would the question of whether they take place in the same universe be answered (much to fans’ disappointment) with a resounding ‘No’?


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It’s possible that fans may put a little too much stock in the idea that every property featuring a DC character MUST take place in a shared universe – take a look in any comic shop, and you’ll see a handful of concurrent storylines starring the same hero. When word that a Flash TV series first broke, the implication was that the studio’s plans for a big screen adventure hadn’t been affected in the slightest. And although Grant Gustin may be dedicated to doing Barry Allen justice, it’s still hard to believe WB would toss him into a movie alongside Henry Cavill and Ben Affleck.

In the case of Nightwing, there might not be cause for alarm just yet. Fellow Bat-family member Huntress has already played a recurring role on Arrow, bearing little connection, if any, to the Batman mythology. It’s just as likely that McQueen could be brought into the fold for his iconic costume and acrobatic fighting style, with the showrunner valuing the ratings bump over the ramifications of relegating Robin to a cameo.

If the role is small enough, fans will have forgotten about it entirely by the time Batman vs. Superman rolls around (and possibly gotten a well-realized appetizer in the meantime). And if we’re being completely honest, it might even be a chance for some synergy. As long as Zack Snyder ended up casting CW star Jared Padalecki as Nightwing – as we’ve recommended – they could get away with simply saying he’s aged since his appearance in Starling City.

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Since the presence of Nightwing in Batman vs. Superman is still unconfirmed, there is time left for fans to hope for total DC universe overlap. But if McQueen lands the role on TV, and Grayson will play a role in Snyder’s (or Affleck’s, for that matter) plans for the future, then all the Green Lantern talk, and star Stephen Amell’s Justice League hopes could be dashed.

What do you think of the possible casting? Is McQueen a good fit for either TV or film as well? And do you think Warner Bros. will paint themselves into a corner by casting both, or will fans easily overlook the inconsistency if Amell is confirmed to appear alongside Batman and Nightwing? Share your thoughts in the comments.


Arrow airs Wednesday @8pm on The CW.

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Source: Steven R. McQueen (via ComicBookNews)

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  1. Nightwing possibly on Arrow? Interesting-er and interesting-er!

  2. Yes!! i hope they put jason todd as red hood as well

  3. Makes sense; both having the character in Arrow & having that character portrayed by McQueen. He’s a likable actor with a CW-following. Test the waters to see if Nightwing’s deserving of a role in MOS2.

    • I imagine there’s a further sense of detachment from the movies since Arrow is set in Starling City as opposed to Star City.

    • MoS2 will need to be filmed before they get Nightwing into any Arrow episodes.

  4. Jered Lacks

    I’d rather see him in Arrow.

  5. Film lol

  6. Both. It would be awesome to have Nightwing show up in Arrow.

  7. Major Singh Banvait


  8. from what i’ve seen of Steven McQueen he has as much range as my broken leg.

    the tv universe has a different feel to it compared to the movie universe…it might be the CW influence.

  9. Daedreamer Dorsett

    Eddie Wilson

  10. Edward Hernandez

    well i think if he was in arrow and superman vs batman don’t you think oliver queen and other’s would know about superman and stuff what are they going to do about that ?

  11. All I know is DC needs to make tv and movie Universes that are connected, nightwing should come to starling city to get Amell’s green arrow for help in metropolis or Gotham where ever MOS2 is set and then we can get JLA started too. (Just had league of assasins show up and about to get the flash, that’s going to be weird if they choose a new flash for JLA and use Amell as green arrow

    • Funny you should say that, while the connected tv and movie universe is a minor concern in my books, a coworker once asked me when the Green Lantern movie was about to be released “Isn’t GL black”, because he knew only one GL, the one from the Justice League animated tv series.
      There you go…

  12. I think there should be some tie in. There are a couple of ways it could work. One way, and this one is a stretch, Arrow and MoS2 can take place in the same universe, but at different points in time with MoS 2 taking place later and Arrow predating the first MoS (i.e. Steve McQueen can play a younger Nightwing fresh from parting ways/falling out with Bruce in the Arrow series with an Oliver Queen that hasn’t been fully established yet. Padalecki can play the more experienced version of Nightwing, especially since this rumored version of Dick Grayson would not have spoken with Bruce in years). The same thing applies to the Flash character in the upcoming spinoff. The TV series versions can be backstory versions that we can watch develop into the characters that will step on to the big screen. You can have the same actors portray the roles or get other actors to play the older versions, although in the case of Amell, I hope he plays Green Arrow, by 2017, storywise he should evolve into the Green Arrow that everyone is hoping for

  13. ‘Bout time!

  14. Dennis Wilson Jr.

    If he we’re to appear in Arrow I might actually watch the show.

  15. Please God WB keep the movies and the TV shows separate!

  16. I go back and forth a lot on this, but I think I have finally settled on hoping they keep tv and movie separate.
    Why settle for one shared universe (one Green Arrow, one Flash, one… Batman, etc) when we can have two.

    One to see a chapter or two a year of, and one to keep us going between those chapters.

  17. It’s crazy how things are starting to break open with this movie. The same site I went on last week about the Nightwing on Arrow reporting also has now said that the WW role is now down to 3 people being Olga Kurylenko, Fast and Furious’s Gal Gadot and French actress Elodie Yung with Jamie Alexander more than likely being out of the running due to contracts with Marvel/Disney. As far as the Nightwing for Superman vs Batman, they said that their source says as far as the Nightwing character they are looking for a “young, John Hawkes type”. The casting maybe for a future film after Sups vs Bats or it could be for this film. But they’re looking for a younger version of him and there have been some names that have auditioned for this ‘young John Hawkes’ role, which has been rumored as the character of Dick Grayson.

  18. out of everyone from arrow that could’ve got a spioff it should have been deathstoke
    that would have been way better than a flash spinoff imo

  19. I really think Nightwing will not be in man of steel 2 aka Batman vs Superman

    • I agree. The more I look into it the more I think it’s for another superhero movie down the line. Maybe a rebooted Batman movie?

  20. I can see it now Ollie tries to get his sister interested in Dick Greyson. But she sticks with Roy but he and Dick become friends.

  21. I’d really like for Arrow and BVS to be connected and use the same actor as Nightwing.

  22. Keeping it separate is fine by me, Arrow is light years better than Man of Steel.

  23. they need to combine both. It would be so much cooler

  24. If there was anything that need speculation for a bright future for DC movies, I suppose this was it after Batflecsmith.

  25. My main concern is the acting skills of these young fresh face actors. I mean we need actors who can do the roles justice. Given that marvel fans are waiting for bvs to fail and go “see marvel does it better”. Abd look at their issue with a connected tv/movieverse. It is droping in ratings every week. Now the issue I see is that the difference of the worlds. It brings to mind if this took place before mos where was arrow?huntress?the flash? Chillin in their cities? No I think they would need to establish that these guys are in another universe and 100% seperate.

  26. Having Nightwing appear in Arrow would be a dream come true. Of course I’d love to see them incorporate the Red Hood for an episode of two at least as well, but I’ll take anything I can get at this point… anything at all.