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Endri said,
December 14th, 2007 

YES YES YES YEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSS.

IT’s INCREDIBILE I LOVE IT.

TAKE THAT IRONMAN.

Heath said,
December 14th, 2007 

Now now, give Iron Man some love! These movies aren’t competing with each other. They come out around 75 or so days from each other.

Heath

Adrian said,
December 14th, 2007 

Indeed, Heath! Let just all get excited about ALL the great films coming out next.:)

KEL said,
December 14th, 2007 

Meh. The other poster was SO much better,IMO. What is that,his smile or something he painted on the window? I’m at a bit of a loss here.

My favorite comix heroes are (sorry,I couldn’t resist!):

1.Batman
2.Superman
3.Iron Man and Captain America (Steve Rogers,and it’s a shame I have to write that)
4.Green Lantern (Hal Jordan) and Flash (Barry Allen)
5.the Atom (Ray Palmer)

Fave superteams:

1.JLA
2.Avengers
3.Fantastic 4
4.JSA
5.the original X-Men
6.Doom Patrol

KEL said,
December 14th, 2007 

Heath,I think,in the long run,these movies ARE competing with each other. And between you and me,I think Iron Man may out-perform every movie at the BO next year. :-D

Jim Carey said,
December 14th, 2007 

IS BATMAN EVEN IN THIS MOVIE?

KEL said,
December 14th, 2007 

Oh,man!! The other one is AWESOME! Second best picture from the film yet,and THE best picture of the Joker so far!! Amazing! I didn’t even see that one! WOW! WOW! WOW!

December 14th, 2007 

The advertising makes me wonder what the rating will be.

Looks seriously frightening.

Heath Ledger’s Joker is the personification of psychotic evil.

Saw the bootleg trailer video. Joker’s laugh is enough to make a grown man wet himself.

Even if Indy IV is great, it still might end up playing second fiddle to The Dark Knight at next summer’s box office.

Jim Carey said,
December 14th, 2007 

Batman Begins is one of the best hero epics ever.

But I may pass on Dark Knight. It looks like the Joker slits throats in a “smiley” shape and “paints” messages with his victims’ blood. DK looks like it won’t leave much room for the imagination.

But there’s always Prince Caspian, Iron Man, and the Hulk. Even Hellboy 2 looks like lighter fare!

KEL said,
December 14th, 2007 

I just saw the trailer over at IESB.net. It was VERY COOL,I’m really looking forward to seeing more of Batman this time ’round and hopefully this film won’t dissapoint,I really don’t want the Joker or some crappy love story to steal any of Batman’s screentime.

That said,my only complaints about the film (so far) are (as usual) the batsuit (should be black and gray on the areas it is in the comix and more flexible) and the Joker,who’s smile is….cut? Ewww. Has NO eyebrows,hair is too long,and he needs a better smile,one that’s been frozen that way as a result of a chemical accident as opposed to “cut” that way as a result of a razor blade accident.

Joker’s outfit/suit looks AWESOME tho,great job with it’s all I can say. :-)

Heath said,
December 14th, 2007 

This is a realistic take on Batman, so no chemicals that make the Joker who he is. I saw the IMAX preview–it’s crazy, though I thought the dialogue was a bit stilted. Then again, it IS a superhero movie, and even Batman Begins had a couple of groaner lines!

Heath

December 14th, 2007 

Kel,

I actually like the way that Nolan thought of creating the Joker’s smile here. I mean, having the smile created ala the chemical bath is too much in the vein of the flashy comic book style emulated in Burton’s version, and brought to woeful technocolor heights (or lows) in the Schumacher versions.

This is a Batman that lives in the near-real world, not the comic books. The Nicholson smile just wouldn’t fit in this movie. It would take us out of the film entirely, seeing something so “inorganic” for lack of a better word, in such an organic universe. The same goes for the uniform. Straight black is better at staying hidden in the dark. It’s just more plausible. It makes the drama and the excitement more palpable, just as it did in “Begins”.

steve adams said,
December 14th, 2007 

Yea this looks good. I didn’t think Heath Ledger would pull off such a performance. So long to the campy tv batman image ..
I do love the purple coat…
The razor cut smile is disturbing in ways that the last film also was. I expect were going to get Two-Face in this film as well at least toward the end,,,,? He should be friken horrific from what the Joker looks like.. :o I think its cool how there holding back on showing alot of Batman. He’s going to make a great enterance I bet for sure in the film. Its going to be great seeing Batman fight Joker. I’m sure Joker will have some insane tricks up his sleve alla (SAW). This is gonna be a Dark Knight for sure!
^
Its going to be a great year for Screenrant and movies come soon.
The buzz is high for “I am Ledgend” opening today.
I bet that will make somewhere around 40, 50 million by monday.
“There were big lines around several theatres I went by on the way home tonight.

Also I bet with the low Rating, Speedracer is going to be a bigtime BO winner with kids and adults. It just looks like such eye candy..
Another trilogy from the Watchoskis? I’m hoping yes….!
=€

Jim Carey said,
December 14th, 2007 

I was a Speed Racer fan. Anyone remember the 2-part “Mammoth Car” story? :-)
But I didn’t care much about seeing it–until I saw the stills (VIA Screen Rant!) It’s on my list now.

steve adams said,
December 14th, 2007 

That’s funny you mentioned that 2 part Mammoth car episode Jim.
Me and a friend (who by the way watched the trailer 8 times) were just talking about the most popular Speedy episode and that was it !!

With the matrix bros creating this landscape, man I just know I’m going to love this Speedracer.

KEL said,
December 15th, 2007 

I disagree. The black and gray would create a camouflage effect for Batman,if Nolan was so concerned with “realism” he wouldn’t be using a yellow utility belt and a cowl that leaves part of Batman’s face exposed,or even a cape.

The cut “smile” makes ZERO sense,it doesn’t even look like an evil grin,it looks disguisting,completely opposite of what the Joker’s smile looks like in the comix. I don’t see what’s so “unrealistic” about a chemically altered face,if you’re going to make a comic book movie at least respect the source material. But whatever,I guess they figure if it isn’t traditional and sounds “real” then they should just go with it. Piss off the hardcore fans,right?

December 15th, 2007 

Kel,

Because the idea of a chemical that has the specific property of making people look like permanent clowns is, well, purely the stuff of comic books and Nolan is making a movie. It’s right up there with the Adam West’s Batman having a spray can of “Shark Repellent” in his utility belt when lo and behold, he happens to be attacked by a shark. It’s kitsch and borders on self-parody. The reason Batman Begins worked as well as it did was because it wasn’t winking at us. It ended up being the most compelling of all the Batman films to date because of it.

In comic book stories, those things are peripheral to the narrative. Focusing on those blinds us to the crux of any good story. The fact that he’s been mechanically scarred instead of chemically is peripheral to the story.

What should piss off fans is when superhero movies get the spirit or essence of the character wrong, and that has nothing to do with the chosen style of the film, say if they made Batman do tell jokes while as Batman.

Romeo and Juliet has been performed in many different guises over the years. Every telling doesn’t have to take place in Verona, and they all don’t have to wear Victorian clothes or even take place in the Victorian era because those elements aren’t what attracts most people to revisit the story.

But whatever style is settled on, it should be maintained with continuity, which is why those elements you want to see can’t appear in this telling, because it would jar us out of the story because they don’t match the tone and style of the rest of the film.

If those elements are what floats your boat, we still have the old Batman tv show and the aforementioned Batman film starring Adam West.

KEL said,
December 15th, 2007 

There is NO WAY anyone can possibley compare what was meant to be a serious and horrible random freak accident to something as ridiculous as “shark repellent bat spray”,which was meant to be funny. Matter of fact,the whole Adam West TV show was not meant to be taken seriously (somehow I think you already know and are just being condescending) the comic books,on the other hand,were. A cut on the face that “just happened” to scarr in the form of a smile,is just as believable as a deformed chemically induced one. And,yes,fans should be and are pissed when the character’s “essence” is done wrong,but there’s more than just one thing that can be done when it comes to pissing off fans. I present exhibit A,Smallville.

The Adam West TV show is nothing like what the Batman comix are,and most fans know that. Just because a film is going with a costume similar to the comix DOESN’T mean it’s going to be like the Adam West show,which costume was not a very faithful interpretation of the comix suit at all. Many films that have had suits that are respectful of the comix have remained “realistic” and intelligent,like Spider-Man 1 and 2 and Superman Returns.

The batsuit in the films isn’t very realistic at all if you think about it. Batman wouldn’t be able to move quickly,fight,or even breath in that thing. It’s rubber and plastic,dude! That isn’t very realistic! The producers/filmakers have ONLY went with a suit that’s remniscent of what Burton introduced in 1989 because they aren’t willing to do anything else,they seem to think that’s the only thing that works. It’s a stylistic thing,it’s what they think is chic,their choice has very little to do with “realism” at all.

And don’t try to give me the lecture of “well,the fans have spoken and that’s the way they want it” cuz that’s B S. Complete and total B S. Since when do studios listen to fans,especially about those sort of things? If that were true,then why weren’t they listening in 1988 to fans’ criticism over the batsuit being made out of black rubber instead of a more flexible black and gray material and over Michael Keaton’s casting as Batman?

I’m only saying that the suit NEEDS to be more flexible and practical for Batman,cuz he has to move A LOT,and he has to move FAST,if he’s in some kind of sticky plastic and rubber concoction how in the hell is he going to even breath? And I believe the suit should be black AND dark gray on the areas it is in the comix,removing the gray is the equivelant of removing the blue or red from Superman’s suit,so it needs to be there. Yes,of course,the suit should definitely be bullet,flame,and shock proof to a degree,like it usually is,but for godsakes make it flexible and practical,like a bullet proof vest or some type of chainmail,he doesn’t need to be a damn tank or armored like Iron Man. So,the elements I want to see in a Batman film would work fine in this franchise. They’re just as “believable”,if not more,then what they’ve went with. If you have to question why a superhero wears a cape and suit like he does then you shouldn’t be watching these type of movies. Cuz,believe me,there is NO SUCH THING as a “realistic” superhero. Every damned one of them has something about them that will make you scratch your head. Every one of them,dude. But that’s OK,cuz that’s the way we like them,they’re supposed to be fantastic and extrodinary,if they weren’t we’d have nothing to do with them and would watch sports or something instead.

So if you like the movie suits and the decisions that the producers have made,then power to ya. But there isn’t any need to be condescending to someone like me who also enjoys the movies,but has an opinion on what he thinks the suits should be like. Respect,man. I never said that they need to be doing an “Adam West style Batman”,your words,not mine,all I said was they could do better with the batsuit and Joker.

I recently watched the bootleg trailer,and the Joker doesn’t look AS bad as I thought he would. Matter of fact,he looks better in live action than he does in a still picture. But they still could’ve done better with him,I think.

steve adams said,
December 15th, 2007 

KEL you make some good points as usual…
I really get pissed when hollywood takes these established characters and destroys them thru Re-imagining them.
Case in point: (the wild wild west remake) and possibly this new Star Trek film.
^

In this case I think that the costume and look of the Joker are fine.
They have changed the look of these 2 characters soo many times only the true comic fans know what’s up.
BUT I know alot of comic-book fans that hate it just like you… Some won’t even go to see it because of these cannon violations. So KEL your not alone…
^
By the way what would you rather see the Jokers disfigurment look like? I think the producers just wanted to keep this version of their Joker somehow different and that’s what they came up with. Its base in a way that I felt the first film was.
^
SIDENOTE:
If anything I’m also happy that Tom Cruise wife isn’t in this sequel. I didn’t like her in the first one.

December 15th, 2007 

Kel,

No, my intent wasn’t to condescend, since it’s one of the things that I detest most when people do it to me. I have no intention of doing it to others.

In my mind, I see the “classic” image of the permanent, perfect Joker smile as being so fantastical that I feel that it doesn’t have a place in Nolan’s take on the story and obviously Nolan agreed with that artistic decision. I saw the scarring as some kind of self-mutilation that only someone as mentally off kilter and psychotic as the character of the Joker would do, so that fit much better to my mind. It also felt right in the way that Nolan seems to be linking his physical appearance to his mental state in a much more direct way. His mental state causing his appearance instead of the other way around, as was presented in the Burton version. That’s my opinion, and all I was doing was trying to explain that. If you took it otherwise, I apologize for my part.

I disagree with your thesis that superheros and realism occupy such separate realms that they cannot be allowed considerable overlap - with successful results no less. Yes there will always be some things that remain unrealistic, but they can be minimized. “Unbreakable” was a great example of this. I see the new Batman franchise in a similar light, but with a little more emphasis on action, whereas Unbreakable was tilted more towards dialog.

KEL said,
December 17th, 2007 

Good points about the Joker,jerseycajun. It does make sense that he was so mentally evil and phsycopathic that he actually scarred himself that way as opposed to randomly gaining this “joker” personality and disformation because he was a victim of a freak accident. A bit more believable,eh? I’d have to concur.

Yeah,and you’re right,the realms of superheroes and realism aren’t so distant that they can’t be allowed “overlap”. Matter of fact,the superhero realm is so much more grounded in realism than something like Star Wars or Lord of the Rings is,but yes,there will always be something about the superhero that is unrealistic,no matter what you do. But when possible,again I agree,the “unbelievable” elements should be minimized,without doing disrespect to the character(s).

Yeah,I guess I did take some of the things you said the wrong way,but I accept your apology and apologize myself for the remark about “condescending”. :-)

Steve Adams:
I agree,Wild Wild West was HORRIBLE! LOL! :-D But yeah,I guess the scarr was the best they could come up with,I guess I just wanted something less grotesque or disguisting and less messy looking. The image I had in mind was probably more “fantastic” looking,like jerseycajun mentioned,and it probably wouldn’t have worked in harmony with the real-world-ish, not-so-sci fi/fantasy flavor Nolan is going for.

I’m definitely seeing the movie though,but I wish the Batman suit was black and gray on the areas it is in the comix,and a little more flexible,that’s all. Just my opinion. I love the movies,but I think the suit could be better,that’s pretty much my big criticism. :-)

December 19th, 2007 

Kel,

Glad we found good common ground! Such a rare thing on the internet.

I think the fantasy elements in any story, be it superhero or LOTR style can be pulled off successfully as long as it reflects some underlying truth about the characters or humanity in the process. As long as it’s internally consistent as we agree.

“The Incredibles” worked even with a hihgly stylized comic-book palette and glory-days-era style characters because the script was strong, and it shone a spotlight on a few human themes (on how we look upon people of talent and on the subject of having a skill or not having it).

There are all kinds of ways to make fantasy and superhero stories work in crowd-pleasing and thought provoking ways. Good directors like Nolan, Bird, and even Rami (I’ll give him props for Spider Man II, but the third, I don’t know what happened) have a way of understanding what elements work together and what ones don’t that have eluded lesser directors (Mark Steven Johnson of Daredevil and Ghost Rider, Tim Story of the Fantastic Four films).

And I think they improved the flexibility in the most critical part of the costume this time around. They separated the cowl from the shoulder-piece, allowing Batman to turn his head from side to side without also having to turn his torso. It always was the most performance-limiting aspect of the costume in all the modern live action incarnations, in my opinion, even in Begins, which is currently my favorite. Just take a look at the scene where he’s making his way out of Arkham Asylum and he excuses himself to the inmate as he escapes. Awkward.

I look forward to Batman being able to give a better physical performance, at least from the neck up :)

HarleyQuinn said,
December 19th, 2007 

I kinda like the scarring…it’s like Gwynplaine in Victor Hugo’s “The Man who Laughs,” which, as a hardcore fan would know, was the original source material for the Joker’s look. I kind of want to touch it…all bumpy like that. It would feel interesting

steve adams said,
December 19th, 2007 

Truly disturbing HarleyQuinn….:o

KEL said,
December 19th, 2007 

Jerseycajun,

Good points,again. I agree with what you said about the fantasy/realsim thing. Consistency is an important element in ANY story.

Yeah,I think they’ve certainly improved on the batsuit’s flexibility a bit this time ’round,but I still think they could do a little better with the it and that the incorporation of the dark gray and black into the areas of the suit that are that way in the comix isn’t to much to ask for. But at least it has no nipples,right? ;-)
I love that scene in Begins where Batman politley excuses himself from the inmates. One of the best in character moments on screen ever,IMHO. Like the scene in the comic Dark Knight Returns when Batman says “watch the language”. Classic.

Although I’m not his biggest fan and don’t particularly like everything about the guy,I do like Bryan Singer as a director,he’s made some great films,IMO. I liked Superman Returns except for the suggested “affair” Lois and Superman had (out of character for Superman,IMO) and the fact that Jason was supposedly Superman’s bastard child. WTF were they thinking? That’s what almost ruined the movie,IMO. Such a bad idea,they just tossed the status quo of Superman out the window when they did that.

Yup,Spider-Man 3 was a disaster. :-( They didn’t even have Danny Elfman back to do the score. (Chris Young’s score was OK tho,but I can’t believe they didn’t get Elfman again)

Speaking of the Elfman,his score/main title for the 1989 Batman IS the best Batman theme of all time. It’s the equivelant of John William’s Superman theme and I hope they work it into a Batman film again someday. Hanz Zimmer’s Batman Begins score is OK,but at the end of the day it winds up sounding TOO much like “Transformers” and his work on Prirates of the Carribean,and IMO,it doesn’t hold a candle to Elfman’s Batman theme. :-)
That’s a cool name you’ve got,I almost forgot to mention that,Jerseycajun. Very nice. :-D

Harlequinn,

I’ve got to agree with Steve Adams thoughts on your desires. But,cuz of your namesake I guess you’ve got to be a little freaky. ;-)

steve adams said,
December 19th, 2007 

Yea KEL, I just the other night watched Superman Returns on dvd cause we were talking about it Singer the other day.
I was so glad that Singer left in the original music and also the 70’s whoosssh graphics.
That was very cool..!
^
Elfman is the sci-fi/superheroe/comic equvalent of John Williams. But I didn’t notice his score not being in the S3 film, witch I also thought was the best Spidey film. O we’ll we all have our favs.
^
One thing also: how cool would Harley Quinn be in this New Dark Knight??

KEL said,
December 19th, 2007 

LOL! OK with me if you liked Spider-Man 3,Steve. Just as long as you aren’t bashing anyone who didn’t like,it’s cool in my book. ;-)
Yeah,I’m EXTREMELY glad that they used William’s Superman theme in SR,JW’s Superman theme and Elfman’s Batman theme should always be the characters’ leitmotif in whatever film they’re in. :-D
John Ottman’s scores for SR,and the 2 Fantastic 4 movies are EXCELLENT,he’s one of the greatest musicians of all time too,IMO.:-)

steve adams said,
December 19th, 2007 

Do we know if Elfmans doing the music to DK. I agree his theme is the best Batman theme going.

December 19th, 2007 

Thanks Kel,

I think Elfman’s work certainly stands the test of time better, while at the same time, I love the way that the Batman Begins music fits within the film - it’s relentless. I just wouldn’t find myself listening to it without the film running. I don’t find it too similar to Pirates’ soundtracks though, which I do own on CD ’cause they are fun to listen to separate from the movie, in my opinion :)

KEL said,
December 20th, 2007 

Yeah,I like the music Hans does for most his films too,jerseycajun. “Relentless”..good word for it,bud! :-)
Steve Adams,
Hans Zimmer and James Newton Howard will be back to score TDK,like they did with ‘Begins.

And Harley Quinn would be COOL to see in a batfilm! I’d doubt if she’d show in one of Nolan’s batfilms tho,cuz she might not be ‘realistic” enough,in all honestly. But my choice actress for the part is….Reese Witherspoon!! :-D She’s blonde,smart,can act,sexy,AND funny! What more could you want from Harley? ;-)
Spidey3 had its good moments,after viewing the film again I’d say it did. I was just dissapointed with it for the most part.

steve adams said,
December 20th, 2007 

Yeah I was thinking Christina Ricci for Harley,,if she could pull off the NY accent she’s the perfect look.
^
Spidey 3, loved the battles I like all the Spiderman films even with the burden of this love story that is the (mary-jane) factor.
Once you except that factor the film is enjoyable.
^
Of course they introduced the Venom goooo a little differently then in the comics.
I was upset about that. I expected to see the Spaceshuttle crash that occured in the comics.
Also Eddie Brocks character was introduced wrong from the start. But overall I liked the way it came together at the end.
^
I’m thinking the next Vilian should be Carnage. Seeing how Peters colledge professor still has some of that goo left over.
But since this strike is ongoing we prob won’t see Spiderman 4 for years. :(

Jim Carey said,
December 20th, 2007 

Steve Adams wrote:
>>Seeing how Peters college professor still has some of that goo left over.<

Please, please, no more goo!

Dr. Connors is THE LIZARD! I’ve been waiting for the Lizard to show up since the first appearance of Doc Connors. He is missing an arm and in the comics, is experimenting with regeneration to grow it back. A true Dr. Jeckly and Scaly Hide story!

I trust CGI is at a point where they can depict a kickass version of this baddie.

steve adams said,
December 20th, 2007 

«The Lizard». Ok but id rather see the red version of Venom “Carnage”.
And of course “Sandman” could return ?
Have them with Electro, and I’m there!!
^
Unfortunity I fear the worst right now and I don’t think there will be a Spiderman 4, for years. Maybe 5 years from now.

KEL said,
December 20th, 2007 

I liked Spidey 3 a LITTLE bit. In the long run it was just TOO depressing a film for me,they didn’t even have Spider-Man swingin’ away at the end! That’d be like ending a Batman film without the batsignal blasting in the sky or ending a Superman film without Supes flying into space and lookin’ at the camera or even ending a Fantastic 4 without the “4″ symbol aflamed in the sky! Which made me sad.:-( But,I too,love ALL the action scenes in ALL the Spidey films,I personally like 1 and 2 the same. :-)
I’ve got to admit,as much as some fans hate the films,I do rather enjoy the Fantastic 4 films,even tho I have my share of complaints about them. I think they need MORE ACTION and FIGHT scenes,the films need to be longer (particularly 2),a little more character driven,and they must,must,MUST have John Ottman’s opening credits score play at the beginning of the film because his work,IMO,is so great I feel cheated every time they don’t do use that full title. Luckily I can see the REAL opening credits sequence for F4 on the Extended edition F4 DVD (I preffered it over the theatrical release,BTW,it’s actually better,IMO anyway) and the Power Cosmic Edition F4 2 DVD. :-D
As for Spider-Man 4,I know you’re gonna love this Steve, I believe it’s a……(drumroll please)…..REBOOOT!!! Surprise!! New cast,new stories,new EVERYTHING!!! Although I have my share of problems with Spider-Man 3,I’m not too thrilled about this “reboot” thing. Raimi,IMO,hit 2 films outa the park,shouldn’t we at least cut him some slack and let him give Spidey another try if he’s interested? And if he isn’t interested,it’ll probably be at least 8 years before a completely fresh,rebooted Spider-Man film hits theaters (like the batfilms,remember?).

Rebooted in the ass indeed. :-(

steve adams said,
December 20th, 2007 

Unfrickenbelievable.^
I can’t believe Spiderman is going to get the reboot.
^
WTF is going on in this business????!!!
Seems like this strike is JUST KILLING our favorite shows and films. I’m wondering Conspiracy??!!
^
Sheesh. I can’t wait to run that by a few of my friends at the comic store… Holly crap there gonna freak!
They make a Spiderman film reboot and I bet it won’t do the biz these last 3 did.
Hugh mistake Sony!
^
On Fantastic 4 yes that franchise needs more action and more villians. If any film should have had 3 villians in it, it should have been F4.
And the romance and Things one liners are bogging down the films.
I also didn’t like the way they did Galactis in the last one.
Also, have the exteneded cut dvd because I never saw the first one in theatres. Not bad…:)
^
Ghessgh this started as a Batman post. Now look what we’ve done.

KEL said,
December 20th, 2007 

LOL dude! I guess it did start as a Batman post didn’t it? And here we are talking about characters from another comix company entirely! :-D
If the next Spider-Man film don’t come out till about 10 or so years from now,then a “reboot” isn’t a bad idea,IMO. I mean,honestly,someday they’re gonna have to start fresh eventually,right? Cuz in the future I’m sure there will always be more Spider-Man movies,just as there will always be more Superman and Batman movies.

Speaking of the future,do any of you think that the regular movie going crowd is eventually going to get tired of the superhero movie genre? With so many superflicks coming out within the next 3 years (not that I’m complaining,as long as they aren’t crap it’s gonna be AWESOME!!), is anyone wonrried that the superhero might go the way of the western? There was a time when westerns were EXTREMELY popular and studios produced hundreds of them,but where are they today? People got sick of them. So is that what’s in the superhero genre’s future,maybe? Just something to ponder. ;-)
Yeah,new villains in the F4 movies would be GREAT!! Something they can actually clobber and fight would be REALLY GOOD,IMO. Galactus was one of my problems with F4 2,but if you listen to the commentary on the DVD they said they didn’t want to show much of the big G cuz they didn’t know what he was gonna look like in the upcoming Silver Surfer film and they wanted to save all the Galactus action for the SS movie. So I don’t really know what to expect with the Silver Surfer film,which takes place after F4 2 but is an origin story for SS. Hopefully it will be good.

Jim Carey said,
December 20th, 2007 

Kel,

What you said about Spider-Man 4 being a reboot–I take it as your personal conjecture or your understanding of some unofficial rumors.

A reboot would be fine with me. Especially if they give MJ the boot. Tobey always looks like he’s gonna bust out into tears. Pete’s supposed to be a college student–Tobey looks too chickified. They could recast it and not lose me at all–as long as they keep the Spidey stuntman.

I liked the treatment of Galactus. Is it just me, or did a shadow of the comic book classic headgear appear in the cloud, at the very end? Maybe the guy who saw the Iron Man toy “goober” saw this also?

KEL said,
December 20th, 2007 

Yes,Jim,I saw Galactus’ comix style outlining quite a lot throughout his scenes in the movie. So you’re not crazy! :-D (I don’t think)

The Spidey reboot thing is based on what I’ve read through various news sites and Wizard Magazine,dude.

steve adams said,
December 20th, 2007 

Wow a Silver Surfer film,, that’s cool. I hope they stay true to that comic story. He gets basically transformed in the Surfer from Galactis then becomes his Harold of destruction.
^
Also on Galactis I heard that the Production had 5 different versions of him, and they went with the cloud (to play it safe) another Wtf moment if I ever saw one!
^
And Yes Jim I as well saw the clasic prongs of his helmet in the cloud as it was headed toward earth.
If there gonna do that they should have just made a huge Galactis. Come on,,, big letdown I thought.

Jim Carey said,
December 20th, 2007 

I actually liked the treatment of Galactus. I don’t think that horn-rimmed helmet (TM) would translate well onto the big screen. True fans knew what was up. On the other hand, the swirling energy clouds and voice are something that did well on screen, but wouldn’t translate well to the comics. The movies capture the *spirit* of the comics, they aren’t a point by point translation.

For the older fans: Wasn’t the Watcher integral to the first F4 story with Galactus? (I was hoping the huge-headed moonbeing wouldn’t appear in Rise…although I looked for hints of his lunar hideout as the Surfer went past the moon!) Didn’t Reed have to go through all sorts of wormhole stuff to find a cosmic nullifier to threaten Galactus? What an edge-of-the-seat comic adventure! I loved when Reed stretched the weapon up into Galactus’ face…

Galactus was like, “you’re bluffing.” Reed was like, “Just try me, mogger of worlds dude–I’m from the country that dropped the first nukes!”

steve adams said,
December 20th, 2007 

Sounds good to me Jim.
Your much more up on your Galactus then me. :)

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