Michael Douglas is Playing Hank Pym in Marvel’s ‘Ant-Man’

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[Update: Michael Douglas talks about joining the Marvel family.]

When we interviewed Marvel Studios President of Production Kevin Feige last year, he promised us that by the end of 2013, we’d finally get some casting confirmations from the studio regarding a few key unannounced characters, one of them being the lead of their first Phase 3 film - Ant-Man. After weeks of rumors and reports – and seemingly an epic workout regiment – putting Paul Rudd on the radar, Marvel made it official. Rudd is Marvel’s and director Edgar Wright’s Ant-Man.

When Rudd’s name first starting making headlines however, he wasn’t the only star apparently in consideration. Joseph Gordon-Levitt was also associated with the project and we theorized that Wright might be looking at multiple actors not for the same lead role, but different ones since in Marvel Comics there are three different men who have assumed the role of Ant-Man. Well, wouldn’t you know it, Marvel just cast another Ant-Man.

Moments ago, Marvel made it official that multiple Academy Award winner Michael Douglas (Wall Street) will play genius scientist and one-time Avenger Hank Pym in Ant-Man, coming summer 2015. Marvel Studios President Kevin Feige on the casting:

“With Hank Pym’s rich history in the Marvel Universe, we knew we needed an actor capable of bringing the weight and stature to the role that the character deserves. We felt incredibly relieved when Michael Douglas agreed to step into the part with the charm and fortitude he brings to every character he inhabits, and couldn’t be more excited to see what he will do to bring Hank Pym to life.”

More than any other Marvel Studios production to introduce a new solo character, Ant-Man is seemingly relying on established and bankable talent – not too much of a surprise considering the risk and obscurity associated with the Ant-Man character. This is a film that only exists because of Edgar Wright, says Feige to us on numerous occasions, but they’re doing everything they can to put it in the eyes of potential moviegoers.

Ant Man Movie Costume Helmet Michael Douglas is Playing Hank Pym in Marvels Ant Man

Douglas joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe is intriguing, especially considering his age, but the more interesting discussion to be had is what his casting means for the franchise as whole. Douglas is Hank Pym, the first Ant-Man who in the comics, created the technology behind the ability to shrink and become giant. But the news also comes with confirmation that Paul Rudd is playing Scott Lang. This makes sense considering Edgar Wright’s recent Ant-Man hints and teases.

Variety posted an exclusive describing Douglas’ character as a villain, but according to that writer’s Twitter, that was before Marvel made the official announcement that he’s playing Pym. That part was cut from their article without an update. While we wouldn’t put it past Marvel Studios to do something like that and have Pym be a villain (see: Iron Man 3′s Mandarin) for the sake of a twist, we’ll stick with the official news and assume Hank Pym is Hank Pym, just a much older version of him.

Since the Ant-Man movie is telling a new origin story for the character, we can assume that Michael Douglas is a scientist – perhaps for S.H.I.E.L.D. or another familiar Marvel organization (A.I.M.) – who discovers a chemical or invents technology that allows its user to change in size, small (Ant-Man) or large (Giant Man). Since Edgar Wright has described his script as a “high-tech spy heist film,” Scott Lang may steal it from him for personal reasons (in the comics, he steals it to save his daughter by using it to perform another heist). That story is full of heart and charm since he’s a criminal but for the right reasons. Lang isn’t evil and Pym sees that, eventually giving him the Ant-Man suit and tech. Lang later becomes an Avenger so we expect that to occur come The Avengers 3.

Our question now becomes whether or not Pym’s helmet creation can actually control ants in the cinematic universe. And what does this mean for Pym’s wife in the comics, Janet van Dyne? Let us know your thoughts and theories!

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More: Ant-Man Embraces Edgar Wright’s Style

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Captain America: The Winter Soldier hits theaters on April 4, 2014, Guardians of the Galaxy on August 1, 2014The Avengers: Age of Ultron on May 1, 2015, Ant-Man on July 31, 2015, and unannounced films for May 6 2016, July 8 2016 and May 5 2017.

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  1. I can’t help but feel like I’m ultimately going to get something better out of this than if they had just done ho-hum, strait forward Hank Pym.

  2. I think this is really interesting. Makes me more psyched for the movie.

    People are getting butthurt over not having a younger pym, well we all alreadhy know the stories of a younger pym, and besides its not like this is an outside company coming in and screwing up the stories, its Marvel re working there origin stories. Who wants to go see a scene for scene adaptation of a comic book? You know how many different universes there are in the Marvel comics, its a different universe, deal with it.

    • Well, they did a pretty faithfull adaptation for the first IM movie, and people were very happy about it. Why shouldn’t it apply here also?

      • Faithful how? Seems really relative to me. From my memory I’ve spent plenty of time reading pre-movie Iron Man comics where Jarvis is a human butler and not an AI, Obadiah Stane is Tony’s business rival and not his mentor, and there’s no such thing as an “Arc Reactor”.

        Between what they got right and where faithful about and all of the BS they changed around (characters, story details, you name it) to fit their needs and wants in just that movie, I think there’s enough creative license to fit in the marginal changes they want to make to this iteration of Ant-man (a movie, mind you, that was never about *just* Hank Pym from its conception).

        • At least it was still Tony Stark… I’m not sure Iron Man fans would have been happy to see a movie about Tony Stark in the sixties creating the IM armour after being wounded in… was it Viet-Nam originally? And then spend most of the movie with an old Stark while Rhodey was flying around in the IM suit.

          • You are comparing Apples to Oranges, Pym has been a scientific adviser to the Avengers for over 30 years in the comics. Plus nothing is preventing Marvel from producing 1970′s ant-man / yellow jacket prequels in the future. Marvel could create a 1960/1970′s Era Avengers with Pym, Wash, T’Chaka, Bill Foster, and others.

            • Typo – Wasp

            • He has been an active Avenger more often than just a scientific advisor. And I think my comparison stands. I’m not trying to make people change their minds with my argumentation, simply trying to explain why I am disappointed by these news, because I was, against all odds, hoping for something else for my favourite Avenger.

              I’m really sorry if I’m upsetting people. I guess I’m just really disappointed that Marvel doesn’t want Pym as a modern-day hero in the MCU :-(

              • If Douglas turns in an iconic rendition of Pym, then Marvel could green light a prequels, casting Douglas as Pym does not preclude Marvel from introducing young Hank in this film and in future films, remember Vito Corleone was also introduced as an older version and that worked out quite well.

                • He will still never become an Avenger.

                  • ^And there it is.

            • Are you referring to T’Challa (Black Panther)? At first I thought you were talking about Chaka Khan or somebody! (Just razzin’ ya…no offense meant!).

    • Who knows Marvel could be planning a prequel for Ant-Man 2 with a younger Pym, and who knows if Wasp is in this movie or not. Casting Michael Douglas is huge, I did not see this coming, what a surprise.

  3. The more that I think about it, the more I like the idea. To Steal An Ant-Man would be the best way to go and can be a powerful story. I just hope the humor is toned down because I don’t see how they can do this story and have them making jokes so often.

  4. Let the Nerd rage begin. It’s only a movie people. Not the end of the world

  5. Douglas isnt playing Ant-Man at all, the announcement says he’s playing Hank Pym. So i’d say in the MCU, Hank Pym creates the Pym Particles and Scott Lang steals them and becomes Ant-Man. Hank Pym will never be Ant-Man in this story, he may actually be a villian.

    • I don’t believe he’ll be a villain. I actually don’t think this film will have a villain. I think they’ll make Lang look like a villain, but he’s actually doing good.

    • They will do flash backs to the 60s for Hank Pym as ant man

      • So that means another casting for a young Hank Pym? Won’t this torture ever end?

        • Just blind speculation I am tossing out in the dark here, but if they were to cast a younger Hank Pym, would he then become Goliath in The Avengers #3, and that movie’s continuity/time-line would take place before Ant-Man (even though the movies were not made in that order?) Seems like Marvel is letting Wright dig a bit of a hole that will hurt Marvel’s chances for the character (a bigger character in the long run, no pun intended) later on down the line. Sometimes (most times, IMO) it is not wise to mess with canon.

          • Or Scott Lang will be Giant Man

            • Scott Lang will be the only Ant-Man in the movie, Pym will create the particles but the twist will be that he never becomes Ant-Man, Scott Lang will. There cant be flashbacks because then they’d have to explain how there was a superhero called Ant-Man running around in the 60′s and nobody took any notice, in the MCU it all started with Iron Man (well cap was the first, but was a war experiment that was frozen).

  6. Totally ridiculous! How can Marvel hand over a possible blockbuster Avengers tie in to a loser like Wright, who best efforts were lame, sophomoric comprise like Hot Fuzz and Scott Pilgrim? Get serious! I can definitely see another Green Hornet in the works! Somebody stop this before any real money is wasted!

    • Thank the lord I’m not the only one with common sense. Edgar Wright has no idea what he’s doing he’s just messing up Ant Man completely, if Joss Whedon was doing Ant Man, this would never have happened, Joss was actually gonna put Hank and Jan in The Avengers but for some reason he didn’t, I get the feeling that if he had, he would have put Amazing actors and actually have done the story AS IT SHOULD BE. Edgar Wright doesn’t seem to realise that he can’t mess this up, all us marvel fans were just waiting for Jan and now he just ruined any chance of her even being in a movie. I am really really angry because for a time I actually trusted Edgar to do a good job and now he’s just messed everything up with no way for any one to cure it. As for Kevin Feige, not every one, is great, enthusiastic and a fantastic choice, honestly its like he’s just made to say good things, does he not have a mind of his own??? Oh and the only reason there not letting Hank be the star of the movie is because marvel seem to think that nobody likes Hank after he hit Jan but that is not true, everyone else got their story told PERFECTLY so why not Hank?? I think now when Avengers 2 comes out and I hopefully watch it I’m gonna know that no matter how many movies Joss Whedon makes it will NEVER be complete without Hank Pym and that’s final.

      • Calm down, we will see Janet some way or another. Don’t judge a film before you’ve even seen a trailer, its ridiculous. I dont even like Ant-Man, he’s always been a boring character in my eyes but when i heard Wright was doing it it gave me hope. Joss Whedon is the overseer of it all so if Wright is using Scott Lang its because he pitched it to Whedon and Whedon thought it was better than his original idea.

    • Really..??? You didn’t like Hot Fuzz..??? What is wrong with you…? The World’s End..!!
      Don’t tell me you didn’t watch Scott Pilgrim vs. the World. Cuz dude..that’s just…Such an AWESOME movie.. The Man directed Space! Shaun of the Dead is the one of the most ultimate zombie movies.

      Edger Write is a genius…!

      Also…Kevin Fergie has said on sooo many occasions..that the only reason Marvel is doing Ant-Man..is because of Edger. He’s the one who has asked Marvel to do it..been after the execs for years…He’s the only reason we have an Ant-Man movie in the first place.

  7. If you age Douglas even more you can have a young version of Hank Pym work with Peggy and Howard in the potential, period “Agent Carter” show.

  8. I think Janet Van Dyne can be worked in no problem as the lover as Scott Lang or Hank Pym despite his age. Because you know how guys manage to get woman younger than them as their lovers. Whatever Antman they choose, Janet could be his lover but be Scott Lang aka(Antman)’s partner.

    • Definitely. I think that in the comics Hank was already significantly older than Janet, as he had already been married once and was a widow when he met her, the daughter of a colleague. So maybe that could be the case in the movie with an actress in their 30′s for Janet and have Douglas act as a Pym in his late 50′s (so that things aren’t too creepy), allowing Janet to be Wasp.

      • this is a freaking awesome point!

    • You are trying way too hard. They’ve proven they don’t give a damn about canon so why struggle to make her Ant-man’s love interest?

      Just have Lang be forced to join SHIELD and appropriate the “particles”. Agent Van Dyne will be the first volunteer to test it out. Simple and resolved.

      • @ mongoose

        That idea works too. Bottomline is Janet Van Dyne can be worked in there to be Wasp. The ” Yellow Jacket” Hank Pym went by later is something else Marvel would have to look into.

  9. Some of you are ridiculous, Lucas introduced Obi Wan Kenobi as the old hermit Ben Kenobi, Marvel maybe doing the same thing here, which is simple introducing the character late in life and if he is popular with movie goers they will simply make a prequel starring the young Hank Pym.

    • Interesting theory, Becton, but I doubt this even if Rudd would make an interesting young Douglas.

    • Yes but he’s hardly gonna be an avenger then is he, there’s gonna be no one alive when he’s younger, except for Thor and maybe Cap’s dad, and Tony’s great great grandad, and ok fine maybe Nick Fury’s long lost uncle. Get real Edgar loser Wright ( who can’t even write by the way… )

  10. I can get behind this…… it’s not exactly what I wanted but I figured that Pym might be the older version of Ant-man. I like Douglass as an actor and I think he will present a classy take a on Pym. I guess Lang is the guy will join the Avengers I mean any Antman version will do. I hope when he joins the Avengers he can use the enlarging ability because they are going to need a crazy power like that to fight Thanos.

  11. So if Pym is old and has had the ability to shrink/grow and has been Ant-Man for a long time…

    Where the hell has he been up until now?

    • running black-ops missions for SHIELD

    • If he has been operating as Ant-man it wouldn’t be that hard for his efforts to go unnoticed considering Ant-man’s power is to become smaller (growing would be a different matter). All that people have are accounts of criminals supposedly being beaten up by an invisible foe (and ants).

  12. This will just screw up the stories even more. Its been very well established both in the movies and on TV that super powers are a recent phenomena.

    If all of these people existed in the 60′s/70′s then the “discovery” by the world of these people would have been just an everyday occurance.

    Plus I am positive if Pym existed in the 60′s and had invented Pym particles that Fury would have just shrunk Loki down to the size of a fly literally and stepped on him instead of creating the Avengers in the first place.

    The Ant Man movie is going to mess up the continuity of the MC/Movie Universe quite horribly if they pursue Pym being in his 70′s.

    • Who’s saying he’s going to have powers?

      • I think the Edgar Synopsis said so :)

        ” so you actually do a prologue where you see Pym as Ant-Man in action in the 60′s, in sort of “Tales to Astonish” mode basically”

        It would be the only real way to introduce Jan unless you change her drastically too. But even if he is not super powered in the past which would have been almost impossible since he goes on to create the Cybernetic helmet to talk to the ants. Shield would have certainly known about this and would have gotten a hold of it.

        It still does not explain why Shield is not using it to shrink prisoners and/or turn Loki into an ant and step on him much less use it to allow every agent to carry an arsenal on them for protection and use it to spy on people.

        Every movie could have ended early if Fury had the technology and if it existed for decades. If Scott managed to steal it then surely 100 other villians would have managed to do in the several decades as well.

        Ant Man is by its very nature going to create continuity holes in the franchise you can drive a Quinjet through. :)

        • No.. it really isnt.

          Firstly..that was sm time ago. No one really knows the final version of the script. Its not like directors mislead people about the script..ever.(IM3..anyone?)

          Also…you’re assuming pym was working for shield as ant man. Maybe he wasn’t. Maybe he just invented the stuff back in the 60s.
          Maybe he invents all the ant man tech…and doesn’t get to do more human testing after the time he tried it when he was young.

          There’s a ton of ways Marvel can play this out..and be cool.

          • Yes, it really is.

            If this was invented anywhere from the 60′ to the 2000′ and Shield does not know about it then Shield is not the organization it claims to be. The Shield depicted in the movie and on TV is a world class organization that knows everything about everything and knows even more than that.

            If your going to tell me that a single scientist invented a particle that allows people and objects to grow and shrink, then goes on to invent a helmet that allows you to talk to ants and Fury somehow overlooked this for decades…then I am going to tell you this franchise is a joke.

            *shrug*.

            But we can agree to disagree. Overlook the shoddy writing if you want to cause it seems “cool” at first…but none of this really poor writing is going to hold up over time. But I have no doubt it will make a ton of money which is the only real consideration here so more power to them.

            Sigh.

            • Hold on…a single scientist did invent all of that…in the comics. Hank Pym.

              And really…we know on multiple occasions that SHIELD is hardly an all powerful organization. Which would only be starting out in the 60s and 70s. Fury wudn’t be there in the 60s and 70s.

              And we don’t know the script details…stop assuming stuff. We don’t know the extent to which Hank Pym developed the Ant-Man tech.
              Edgar Write is a brilliant director. And he will make a brilliant movie.
              Plus..Paul Rudd….
              Of course they’d make a ton of money…they’d also make a great movie. Something new in the franchise.

            • I’m just impressed you’ve read the script.

            • S.H.I.E.L.D. does know about it, watch Thor, after Coulson steals Jane’s and Selvig’s stuff Selvig says he was going to email a coleague who had encountered S.H.I.E.L.D. before and it was confirmed it was Pym but it was removed from the movie. Check it out, they already stated that Pym was an old guy.

            • Your right it is going to be a joke, only a really painful one. I still remember in 2012 when I told my mum that they were gonna do an Ant Man movie, she told me that it sounded really cheesy, and I insisted that it wouldn’t be, now it truly is going to be cheesy, and just stupid

        • Forget about shrinking Loki, they could have used it on Banner/The Hulk instead of trying to lock him in a fish bowl that drops to the Earth in the hopes it will kill him. And yeah the scenario set up in the SHIELD show makes it sound like there has not been much activity in the way of super-powers, but they can just explain it away by saying SHIELD did not know about it. Makes the agency seem more useless, but sometimes you just have to advance a storyline.

          • I have to say…I never thought about the Hulk. A scene with Widow and a shrunk Hulk in a glass bottle with a high pitched voice seems a natural. But I digress.

    • Exactly. The only logical explanation in regards to SHIELD is that he was re-fruited by them or that he Howard Hughes’d them so to speak. That is he used his leverage as the inventor to become wealthy and powerful.

      Pym Particles are trouble. They would have created any entirely alien world to us if they had been invented in the 60′s. Computers for one, everything about them and their use would have happened differently if they were able to be miniaturized by a semi-magical/quasi-scientific process. Transportation of bulk goods, shipping containers, prisons could have been turned into doll houses, landfills could fit into a sandbox, etc.

      Storywise, it could be terrific. Hank could have been friends with Tony’s Dad. However like you said it could ruin the movie franchise continuity.

    • I see what you mean about how Pym having invented this in the 60′s would cause some problems for continuity, and if nothing else make Pym seem greedy and foolish for having kept the discovery to himself.

      However maybe Pym discovered the Pym particles in the 60′s accidentally and realised that with the benefits would also come problems, such as super villains stealing it as you mentioned, and he keeps his discovery secret, not using it. Then in the present either Pym thinks the world is ready or/and Lang breaks in and discovers gear or files (on paper so S.H.I.E.L.D. can’t hack them).

      But if Pym did want to use the technology in the 60′s, while still keeping it secret, it wouldn’t be that hard, in my opinion, to do: considering he’d be pretty much invisible while the size of an ant. I disagree with you saying that S.H.I.E.L.D. is all knowing, but I’m sure that after the events of the Ant-man movie they’ll look into things. As for Pym giving the stuff to S.H.I.E.L.D. he might not even know they exist (after all they’re meant to be a secret organisation).

      Another possibility that they could go with is that the technology is invented in the present. As for the helmet I don’t really know, but maybe it’s invented by Pym for Lang when/if they team up.

      Overall I reckon most things will be handled well though and continuity will be fine.

  13. OK, I have to admit, this one really caught me off-guard and turned me on my head, rocked my casbah, etc. Michael Douglas is a good actor, no problem there. However, my main concern is what will this do with chances of seeing Hank Pym=Giant-Man=Goliath in The Avengers? And what about The Wasp? I really, really, really want to se the two of them in The Avengers. I am not happy with Scott Lang being the focus of the Ant-Man persona. I am looking forward to the Ant-Man movie per se, sso that is not it…I am more concerned with canon, original source material, and getting Goliath et al where he needs to be. I think this is one Marvel needs to answer and speak out on in detail now. Wil we see Giant-Man at some point ion some movie (or Goliath), and how about Wasp? If Pym is in The Avengers, will be be Goliath? When?
    Just for the record, I don’t mind the costume from the test-footage as Ant-Man’s costume. That footage looked passably good to me.
    Pym as a villain? Hope that never happens.

  14. Time for DC to stir the pot and whip out ray Palmer, “The Atom”!

  15. It’s confirmed for me, based on this disappointing news, I’m going to wait for home video before I see this. They should have just made Paul Rudd as Hank Pym. I like Douglas as an actor, but I think Marvel really shot itself in the foot with this decision. SMDH

  16. Its a fairly straight forward piece of casting.

    Firstly… Ultron was taken away from Hank.
    Can’t say too much about it. For Now…i trust Whedon. If Joss thinks that he has a great origin story for Ultron…then I’m on board now. If someone made the Avengers..he deserves some leeway. Some Trust.

    Now…without Ultron.. What are the stories to tell about Hank Pym?

    Can’t go in the wife beating…substance abuse direction. Mental Instability….no.
    He didn’t create ultron..so the whole twisted father-son relationship in the comics…can’t see that.
    Without Ultron…Hank is still a brilliant scientist who invented Pym Particles. Well..he’s in the movie, inventing pym particles.
    Other than that…Marvel has Tony Stark (Successful Scientist) and Bruce Banner(Troubled Scientist) as super geniuses.

    Most of the story avenues for Hank Pym…have all-ready been closed by Marvel. No really..which ones will they use. “The Trial of Yellowjacket”….would have to reference multiple episodes of his problems.“Lost in Space-Time” …I think he was going on about suicide then. “His Name is Yellowjacket”….introducing a tonnn of mental problems and tricked into marriage.“Ultron Unlimited”…can’t..he didnt create ultron.“The Court Martial of Yellowjacket”….such a cool story in the comics…except..all his past deeds are questioned…and he strikes Janet. Nothing from the Ultimate Universe of course.

    In every great Ant-Man story….Hank is with the avengers…usually battling ultron. Other than that…which great stories can marvel tell with Hank?

    Personally…I’m a fan. Hell…he’s the only reason I keep buying Avengers AI.

    But there’s simply no real place for Hank Pym in the Marvel Universe to be Hank Man.

    Scott Lang has been brilliant in FF. Plus he original story arc in “To steal an Ant-Man”…is cool. He’s a thief looking for redemption. A thief only to save the life of his daughter. He has heroism thrust upon him…not as a choice..more of a necessity. And what he does with it. That’s a Marvel Movie.

    • The ironic thing about all this is……..People and Marvel can change so many OTHER things, including character origins, but when it comes to Pym, unless they make him an unstable, drug abusing wife beater it just wouldn’t be him and there’s nothing more to tell about the character?

      • No but… Hank Pym is that character. In a redeemable way.
        I mean..he is mentally unstable. He has done terrible things in the past. In the comics…over a reallly long time..he has managed to get better.

        If they put up a boy scout version on Pym..what’s the point then?
        The problem most fans have is marvel not sticking to canon. That ship sailed with avengers. Further away with Avengers 2. Didn’t turn out too badly though.

        And Ultron is again..a huge chuck of nearly all Pym stories. Also of his character. His relationship with Ultron..is almost what defines ultron. Still…trusting JW for now.

        He is a complex character. Defined by all his mistakes. His guilt for creating ultron. His actions. His Heroism. All that.
        But in the comics, he’s had yearssss to redeem himself…still not fully in so many people’s eyes.

        It just can’t work in the movie. Ultron is gone. And most stories about him feature his problems. Also..he’s another scientist who invented something and wanted to be a hero. Marvel has that. What Marvel doesn’t have is a thief who has heroism thrust upon him. Not by choice. And then goes on to do great things consciously.

    • This is exactly what I’ve been thinking, Bruce Banner is basically filling Hank’s slot in the Avengers (as you say troubled scientist).

      Also if he’s not a front line fighter they’re free to make him like insanely smart, like talking down to Tony Stark smart (after all Reed Richards doesn’t exist). I did love Pym as the Scientist Supreme.

      As to the people thinking Pym particles should have changed the world if shield have them that’s crazy. I mean this could be a great example of shield supressing the development of super-people/tech. Maybe even keeping Pym in a secure facility?

    • I agree that marvel have shut off every opportunity of having Hank in a movie, but Edgar Wright is just doing it stupidly, if marvel didn’t want to have Hank in a movie they shouldn’t have decided to do Ant Man, I’d prefer for Hank not to be in a movie than to portray him ridiculously, this is nothing against Michael Douglas but really that’s not fair to Hank, he deserves a story and Edgar Wright shouldn’t be allowed to ruin him like this, he’s a fantastic character, he just needs to be understood, and all those fans who continue to say that Hank Pym is a wife beater just aren’t helping at all, its because of them that Hank isn’t properly portrayed because now Edgar Wright decided to listen to his fans, of course after messing up everything else himself.

      • See..this is what I don’t get.
        You understand that Marvel has shut off nearly all story possibilities.
        Whedon has figured out a new origin for Ultron. He says its awesome. I trust him. for now.

        So…if there aren’t any stories to tell…what would a Hank Pym Ant-Man movie be about?? And he is a wife beater. That doesn’t define him as a character. Not even his mental instability. But do you really want any of that to be portrayed in a movie?

        And just as Hank Pym is as much a mentally unstable hero who has done really unforgivable things in the past..he’s also a very sympathetic superhero that has aimed for redemption. And he’s getting there. But that’s not a movie. In comics..Hank Rules.

        Edger Wright is making the best with what’s given to him. Taking Ultron away was Whedon’s call. Edger Wright is actually trying to stay close to cannon by adopting a version of “To steal an Ant-Man”.
        But tell me…which comic book arc would you draw from if he was going with Hank. Without Ultron..or the Avengers being featured…its pointless.

  17. BEYOND PISSED SCREW SCOTT LANG i want HANK PYM ON THE AVENGERS WITH WASP FIRST TIME EVER BUT PISSED AT THE WAY MARVEL IS GOING ABOUT THIS

  18. Guys, idk if it has been mentioned before bc i didn’t go through all the comments but wouldn’t this set up perfectly so that Hank Pym was the one who actually created Ultron and the Pym Particles and everything else PRIOR to the release of Ant-man!

    Fingers crossed and hoping Marvel know’s what it’s doing.

  19. I can imagine the “How it should have ended” video already: “No. My daughter’s sick. That makes it alright for me to steal.”

  20. I like it … From what Edgar Wright said years ago about the basic plot, I had always assumed we might be getting an older, retired Pym.

    Now it’s been confirmed, it makes me wonder if this is the role RDJ was pushing for Mel Gibson to play? If so, then I like Michael Douglas’ casting even more!

  21. Maybe the MCU Pym never did the hero thing. Maybe he developed the tech for scientific purposes.

    I think it would be great for him to have been a combination of Bill Nye and Jacques Cousteau, who even shield assumed was fake, because even for Marvel, Ant-man is kind of out there. Maybe Lang as a child was the only one who believed it was real. Maybe his daughter does and he steals the costume to cheer her up and gets the surprise of his life.

  22. I was already ready to be pissed off if hank pym wasn’t the main ant man, because I don’t see anything interesting
    about scott lang, however, Micheal Douglas (arguably one of the greatest actors to be in any marvel film)
    will give Hank Pym the performance he deserves, and Paul Rudd will make Scott an extremely interesting character.

    Color me surprised, stoked and excited.

  23. On Yahoo site: “Ant-Man” director Edgar Wright has actually been mulling over having both Pym and Lang in the film for nearly a decade:

    “The thing is that what we want to do is have a film that basically is about Henry Pym and Scott Lang, so you actually do a prologue where you see Pym as Ant-Man in action in the ’60s, in sort of ‘Tales to Astonish’ mode basically,” said Wright in a July 2006 interview with SuperHeroHype. “And then the contemporary, sort of flash-forward, is Scott Lang’s story, and how he comes to acquire the suit, how he crosses paths with Henry Pym, and then, in an interesting sort of Machiavellian way, teams up with him.”

    • I heard that as well, but then later (I think it was 2012) he also said that they were rewriting the script to fit in with the other films of the Marvel cinematic universe, so it will be interesting to see how the film turns out (although so far it seems pretty close to that 2006 description).

  24. This is what I found on wikipedia.
    When his daughter Cassie Lang became seriously ill, Lang decided to return to burglary as a final resort. He broke into Dr. Henry Pym’s home and stole his Ant-Man uniform and shrinking gas canisters. Garbed as Ant-Man, Lang broke into Cross Technological Enterprises and discovered that Dr. Erica Sondheim, the only person capable of helping his daughter, was being held prisoner. He rescued the doctor and was relieved when Sondheim was able to save his beloved Cassie’s life.
    Lang had intended to return the Ant-Man costume to Pym and turn himself in for its theft but Pym, aware of the use to which Lang had put the stolen goods, offered to let him keep them, provided he only use them to uphold the law.

    Plot revealed!!!

  25. YAY Im one of the few that are happy with this decision.

    Hank Pym – Sorry was a boring character. Even in his various suits. As a scientist ok… hero not so. Unless you bring his instability to the table…..

    Scott Lang – I remember him crawling around in Iron Mans suit thanks to it being fused in fighting The Hulk.

    Eric O’Grady – Shield Thief :D liked him more then Pym less than Lang.

    Best way forward fuse O’Grady and Lang. Have the movie Lang be part of S.H.I.E.L.D. Daughter in trouble steals Antman ‘suit’.

    Pym thanks to his instabilities is under lock and key Lang finds out about the suit through him. His instabilities are people were microed to nothingness so he lost it. SHIELD thinks it is best to keep him under lock and key instead of letting him out. OR his trips to the microverse (MICRONAUTS!!!) had an effect on his mental stability.

    SHIELD thinks the suit/process is a loss.

    Anyho I have confidence in this so far….. :D

  26. Either way, I am all for seeing Paul Rudd and Mike Douglas interact with one another in the MCU, let alone, with who ever else shows up in the movie

  27. 70 year old Antman (Hank Pym) No thank you. So who’s gonna be Wasp Jessica Tandy. I will pass on this movie. I don’t want to see Yellowjacket or Goliath in diapers. What’s next a Black Panther from Korea, and a Dr. Strange who doesn’t use magic. Marvel is making more mistakes as of late.

    • Lol, I’m trying really hard to laugh, but honestly the other side of me is crying, I really wanted to shove it in my friends faces that Hank Pym is the greatest superhero of all time, now I know I’ll never be able to do that. Thanks for messing everything up Wright.

    • Umm…Read the actual press release….

      Douglas is Hank Pym. Rudd is Scott Lang.
      Nowhere does it say that Douglas is gonna be Ant Man.
      That’s probably..Scott Lang.

      Marvel hasn’t dropped the ball. In fact.. i would have thought with their previous successes…it would earn them some amount of trust. Whedon is supervising everything. Fergie has yet to disappoint…and Edger Wright is Awesome. Add to that..Paul Rudd.
      That..is another successful marvel movie.

      • Pym is not Antman. Thats the point!!!!! I dont know any Scott Lang fans, there will be no Wasp as far as I can see, this movie is looking like a train wreck. Didnt Wheldon supervise Agents of Shield and you see how terrible thats turned out. What has Wright directed that was good anyway because I dont know of any good movies he has been apart of.

        They lost my trust when I paid money to see the Mandarin fight Ironman and got played. They wont trick me out of my money again. But I did like Thor 2 though but it didnt have the signs of a flop this movie does

  28. Idk if I can get behind this……I reallly hate scott langs character. I was so happy that pym was gonna be ant-man…I can tolerate the film if it was pym….but now this……

    Idk deal breaker. I think dc just called and said thanks for the present.

  29. i think they can work it out having an older hank pym, maybe they could set as someone said earlier, a prequel having hank pym younger probably working with SHIELD/Pre-Shield and Howard Stark and the first version of what became the avengers, and then set the record straight for not having Pym and Wasp as cofounders of the avengers….

    as long as they dont pull a Mandarin on this one, i think i like what i am seeing…
    also, Paul Rudd i think fit’s more as Lang than Pym…

    • If they did do a prequel movie like that they wouldn’t have to necessarily explain why nobody has heard of Ant-man because S.H.I.E.L.D. could have kept that as a secret/if Pym was used in secret missions. Although that would still beg the question of why we haven’t seen Pym Particles elsewhere, although I’m sure there’s some explanation that could be used to explain that.

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