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INK says:

“(am I the only one who thinks she resembles a crack-whore??)”

Where do you live? You must have some really hot crack-whores there. :)

790 says:

Nice call Thomas,
She was great as Chiana.

Kofi says:

No one has mentioned Azriel and the Order of St. Dumas. Maybe the “villian” isn’t a villian at a all but a rival hero who takes things too far. Hmmm…. Throw Bane and a Riddler cameo in there and there’s your movie!

Brooster says:

That was kind of the theme behind Batman Begins with Raz…trying to exterminate corruption by destroying the entire city…

WAR-MACHINE says:

katie holmes was good in the first film untill she got ubducted by tom cruise.
she could be a good cat-women,but very doubtful .

i say either Harley Quinn to seek revenge for locking up The JOKER , or the Riddler.
or both.

just no IVY please Uma butchered that character.and the Riddler’s a blelveable character for nolans universe.

and if they do it right angie could do it bring on the skin tight leather.

Daniel Fenwick says:

I would really like to See Bane done some Justice, but The Black Mask would be great as well. It could be interesting to have The Black Mask and Penguin both as sort of leaders of their own gangs and have them at war and the war has to be stopped by Batman.

Panda says:

Although I think TDK hinted at Catwoman (or maybe it was just a plug for fans with no foreshadowing intended) I don’t see how Catwoman would fit in Nolan’s BM universe. A female villain would definitely be a welcome change from BB and TDK, but Talia would probably be a better choice. Considering how Raz was portrayed, Talia could be the daughter of any previous Ra’s incarnation, any ethinicity, age, etc.

A Twoface resurrection would be difficult to do, but possible since they never said he was dead (not that I recall), and how far was the fall? I have to see it again to refresh my memory.

I could see Harvey coming back after reconstructive surgery (like previously mentioned), but I’d rather leave him to his fate and move on. The Riddler is the only real villain that makes sense in Nolan’s world (most others being to campy), but I would love to see what he could do with someone like Catwoman or Talia

Daniel Fenwick says:

You say most other Villians are to campy, but the Riddler isn’t? I find Bane, Hush, Black Mask heck even Clayface and Mr Freeze less campy than Riddler.

Panda says:

“You say most other Villians are to campy, but the Riddler isn’t?”
If played by Jim Carey.. yes. But I see your point

Clayface… maybe if you take away the shapeshifting, but then your’re left with a psychotic guy in a mask (oh wait, you’re right that would work)

Mr. Freeze has a freezing gun (oh please). Bane, powered by ‘venom’, wouldn’t really work.. maybe if he was just really strong. Riddler is the only one I envision Nolan using because it would add a mindgame aspect to it. Clock King, although kind of silly, could also work as a criminal mastermind.

So far, Nolan has used villains with an ego to either give themselves a good name (Scarecrow, Joker) or they take one given to them (Twoface, Ra’s). I could see someone who thinks their really smart call themselves Riddler. The others not so much. I’m not saying it’s the only possibility, just MHO.

Catwoman I could see given the name by the press, and Bane maybe as a Gangster nickname. I dunno really…

Panda says:

oh yeah… I’m thinking of the Batman TAS version of Riddler, not the campy one

the old man says:

Well what ever they do, for this new incarnation of the series, it will have to be built from the ground up. Your favorite conceptions about Batman’s nemeses will be remolded by the Nolan stamp to fit in with the first two movies. One way or another you have to accept that now, he’s definitely in the drivers seat. If he’s made up his mind, “no Cat-woman,” then don’t expect the studio or D.C. to change it.

El Santo says:

Is he, the old man? Comic movies are a tricky thing. You’d think, of all previous directors, Sam Raimi would’ve had the power to create the kind of movie that he wanted. I mean, Spider-Man 1 & 2 did incredible business. Instead, he was pressured by Avi Arad to include Venom in the movie. A character that he hated.

Nolan’s looking good now, but I can’t say he’s immune to editorial fiat.

the old man says:

Well stupid is as stupid does..
Don’t you think the industry learned something from that? Besides DC is a different animal than Marvel. They perceive that they are playing catch up, at least from what I’ve read. Some group reins in Nolan, they better know what their doing! “Dark Knight” has been in release less than two weeks and is seriously approaching 1/2 billion in business.

El Santo says:


Don’t you think the industry learned something from that?

I wouldn’t count on it. Previous to The Dark Knight, Spider-Man 3 had the highest grossing opening weekend in history. And its total gross was nothing to sniff at.

You’re probably right about DC doing things differently. Mainly because the Batman franchise is clearly following a different trajectory than the Spider-Man movies. I’m just saying that in the movie business, nothing is guaranteed.

Gary says:

Who Knows?
Nolan might surprise us and Use CatMAN instead !
He is part of The Bat mythos too.

the old man says:

Well sure, it’s your time, you should fill it like you want. :) My best response is “I’m still collating.” ;)

The Big Dentist says:

Old man, Maggie Gyllenhaal’s 4 years younger than Bale and a good 10 years younger than Eckhart! Know what you mean though, it’s those lines round her mouth. I’ll pass on Jolie as Catwoman, particularly if she insists on doing that bizarre “I’m-a-bit-exotic-yet-strangely-Russian-sounding” accent.

Kofi says:

Guys, i think some of you need to separate yourselves from the batman incarnations of the past. A) Nolan’s films have a Bat-tank that can “jump” and ride rooftops; a Batpod that can rotate its front wheel on both a verticle and horizontal axis; a bat-suit that allows Batman to “glide” all over the place; a “Micro Wave Emitter…” the point is, all that tech is based on real world things the military uses, etc… Mr. Freeze’s gun ALREADY exists in the real world, if you’re a watcher of those futuristic weapon shows like I am. Poison Ivy is just a woman who knows how to make toxins from plants (forget the telepathically controlling them crap). But I do like the idea of warring gangs led by “Super criminals” trying to fill the void left by the slain mobsters. That leaves the door open for Bane, The Clock King, Clayface I, The Riddler, The Penquin, or all of the above.

greenknight333 says:

Anybody read the rumor that the producers of the next Batman that they are looking to Johnny Depp to play the Riddler…It is quite possibly just a rumor but I did read it somewhere…I think that would be really great!!

Brooster says:

Does that mean Tim Burton is going to be helping on the next film as well?

greenknight333 says:

LMAO Eighth times a charm…

INK says:

So is this the highest post count for any single topic yet?

Panda says:

“So is this the highest post count for any single topic yet?”

obviously you weren’t tracking the “Who’s the Final Cylon” thread

I seriously doubt this Jolie rumor is true. Just internet speculation.

790 says:

These days speculation posts on Batmam #3 are all the rage. ;-)

I have a feeling Watchmen will be the next huge Superhero film !!! ;-)

greenknight333 says:

I hate the way movie studios, agents, and actors use the internet to do their market research on ideas they are bantering about..put the idea out there, check the reception for it and move on to develop the idea or move on to something else…How much are websites making for all these polls that ask questions like “When will you see TDK?” or “How many times will you see TDK?” How much of that is studio driven? ANybody know..am I being naive here?

790 says:

What brought that on Greenknight333 ?
;-)

Daniel Fenwick says:

I think you’re reading to much in to it Greenknight and even if you were not what’s the big deal? Isn’t better for them to get a feel of what people want then to just do whatever they want?

El Santo says:

Yeah, I just assumed that those polls were run by obsessive fans. Seriously, word of mouth is its own crazy marketing vehicle. (Though I don’t doubt some of it is studio driven. Guerrilla marketing is the most loathesome kind.)

Ummm… are you worried that our banter here will somehow cause the studios to sign up Catwoman or something? I think the time honored tradition of casting is hardly consensus driven.

greenknight333 says:

Nah .. if your going to use us just float some free movie passes our way

;)

Dolemite3000 says:

IN MY OPINION,ANGELINA JOLIE HAS A STUNNING BEAUTY THAT PERFECTLY SUITS CATWOMAN,AND SHE IS A FANTASTIC ACTRESS.THE PROBLEM IS HER CELEBRITY WOULD OVERSHADOW THE MOVIE ITSELF,AND THEN YOU HAVE TO WONDER WHAT KIND OF VILLIAN COULD YOU PRESENT CATWOMAN AS.I HONESTLY BELIEVE,THE PERFECT ACTRESS FIR THE PART)IF THEY DO INCLUDE HER)WOULD BE AN UNKNOWN BEAUTY,OR A POSSIBLE LESSER KNOWN.BUT TO MAKE THINGS AS DARK AND NOIR AS TDK,IT WOULD BE GOOD TO KINDS RUIN HER BEAUTY ABIT(PERHAPS A SCAR OF SORTS).THAT WOULD BE AWESOME.

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