‘Amazing Spider-Man 2′ Writer Roberto Orci Talks ‘Sinister Six’ & ‘Venom’ Spin-Offs

Published 1 year ago by , Updated March 19th, 2014 at 5:52 pm,

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With all the wacky rumors and big announcements coming out of Warner Bros. and Marvel these days, it’s easy to forget that Sony is building a big screen superhero universe of its own. Though The Amazing Spider-Man 2 won’t hit theaters until later this year, it’s already been announced that two spin-off movies – Sinister Six and Venom – are on the way.

In a recent interview, Roberto Orci – co-writer of The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and 3 (as well as the forthcoming Venom) and a key member of the “brain trust” shepherding the development of the Cinematic Spider-Man Universe – talked about what we can expect from the aforementioned supervillain movies.

Orci was asked – courtesy of Roth Cornet at IGN – how the writers/producers plan to approach the Sinister Six and Venom films, considering the movies will primarily feature villains as protagonists. Will they be bad guys-turned-good guys (sort of) in the film, a la the Marvel comic book Thunderbolts? Orci said:

“That’s the discussion we’re having right now; how exactly do you do that, and how do you do it without betraying the audience and making them all mean? Drew Goddard [the director/co-writer of 'The Cabin in the Woods'] is going to be writing that one, so it’s kind of his problem. [Laughs.] I’m kidding. We’re all working on each other’s stuff. So we want to be true to it, but there are some anti-heroes in this day and age. There’s been examples of that even on TV – Vic Mackey on ‘The Shield,’ one of the great anti-heroes of all time. There are ways to milk that story. Audiences have seen everything. They’ve seen all the good guys who never do anything wrong. Is there a story in seeing the other side? That’s the challenge, and that’s the fun. I’m not sure how we’re going to do that yet.”

Though it would no doubt be interesting to see comic book movie anti-heroes treated with as much seriousness and grit as a character like Vic Mackey or even Walter White from Breaking Bad, it seems much more likely that the villainy and darkness in these films will be toned down for the big screen. Can you imagine Doctor Octopus or The Rhino poisoning a little kid or covering up the murder of an altogether different little kid or ordering the deaths of several (relatively) innocent people over the course of a 90-minute summer blockbuster movie? Sure, it’s possible – but it’s not probable.

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On how the villains of The Amazing Spider-Man 2 are created, Orci said:

“Oscorp plays an important part in how our villains get created, obviously, in the first one. So because Peter becoming Spider-Man came out of that, rather than saying, ‘And then this alien came from space,’ or whatever, they’re doing human-hybrid, weird stuff at Oscorp. That’s where Gwen Stacy works [...] as well. So the idea of it representing the good and the bad of science, that it can do great things, but it can also mess you up and do weird things and transform people – as all science can be used for good or bad. So it’s nice to have that organizing principal, but it wasn’t like, ‘We must keep it at Oscorp.’ It flowed naturally from the story development.”

As with many things from The Amazing Spider-Man films, this seems to be co-opted more from the Ultimate Spider-Man comic book series than the 616 Marvel Universe Spider-Man. Orci all but explicitly references Venom by talking about the “alien from space,” which was the 616 (and Raimi Spider-Man 3) origin story for Venom. He also seemingly implies that the Venom of the Amazing Spider-Man franchise will instead be created using “human-hybrid, weird stuff at Oscorp.”

It’s unclear precisely what that means, but it certainly sounds more like Ultimate Venom, which was a science experiment – an attempt to cure cancer – gone wrong. In fact, Ultimate Carnage was created by Curt Connors (The Lizard) from a combination of the Venom symbiote, his own DNA, and Peter Parker’s DNA. Could this (or something along these lines) be the impetus for the new version of Venom?

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Finally, Orci clarified that the announced release date for The Amazing Spider-Man 4 (2018) really is intended for TASM4 and not Sinister Six or Venom:

“[...] No, I think with ‘Spider-Man 4,’ the intention is for it to be ‘Spider-Man.’ “

Well, there you have it. If you were concerned that the Spider-Man films would stop being made once the supervillain movies took over, fear not. Not that that was ever a concern.

For the full interview with Roberto Orci, make sure to head over to IGN.

What say you, Screen Ranters? Are you looking forward to this new direction Sony’s taking with regard to superhero cinema? Do you like the idea of the Sinister Six or Venom as anti-heroes? Drop us a line in the comments.


The Amazing Spider-Man 2 hits theaters on May 2nd, 2014, followed by The Amazing Spider-Man 3 on June 10th, 2016, and The Amazing Spider-Man 4 on May 4th, 2018. Venom and Sinister Six do not currently have official release dates.

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    • Right?? “We don’t know how we’re going to do it” is always a bad sign. I mean I hope they have a good idea at least and he was just saying it like that because he doesn’t want to drop any potential hints… but somehow I think they are in fact just winging this.

      • “but somehow I think they are in fact just winging this.”…like they/he did on Lost

  1. Venom as anti-hero – yes. Sinister Six – no.

    • Agreed that would feel forced. Unless they are duped into doing something good eventhough they think its villainy. Rhino, electro.. Based on the trailers and interview they appear to be straight up one dimensional psychopaths.. Not many redeeming qualities about them or hints that they could wimmingly turn good.

  2. I hope that the S6 movie is just a movie about them being villians none of this anti hero crap, I’m probably alone on this but I didn’t like Travis Bickle as a character yet I love Taxi Driver and the character, now I’m not comparing the two movies but I dont think that every main character needs to be likeable and a hero, though thats just my thoughts and I’m a weird person so..

  3. I’d like the villains in the Sinister Six actually play villains.

  4. I’d dig sinister six if it was a lead up movie to a spiderman movie were it shows them being evil and winning.

  5. Spider-Man 4 was mentioned here a couple of times,does it mean Raimi is back and Tobey ?
    That would be wonderful !

    • No it means Andrew(who is better) and Mark Webb(who is legit) will do a Spiderman-4…don’t know how u got Tobey and Raimi confused.

  6. I have to ask here because I did not see a open discussion thread, so here we go. I was wondering if anyone had any kind of news on Creature from the black lagoon remake and if it is still happening, as well as Island of Dr Moreau remake, AND Prometheus 2 aka Paradise? I am very excited about these three films and just having trouble finding any kind of news.

  7. The Sinister Six movie may work if Kraven the Hunter as the lead anti-hero. Kraven’s last hunt – is in my three fave spidey stories and he really destroyed spidey’s rep before he offed himself.

  8. If they admit they have a plan(which they do) news and fanboys will beg for the plans. They aren’t slapping it together, they have a story and release dates because they are ready! Leave sinister six sinister please. Venom, either way as long as it not Raimi Venom….*chokes*

  9. I don’t know about a sinister six movie? A movie with just supervillains and no heroes sound as bad as a hero movie with no Supervillains.

    Are they just going to show them robbing banks and squashing the police. I dont think it will work unless they have some heroes trying to stop them.

    Venom could work but who would be the villain unless it was carnage then I would definitely be watching.

  10. I think, the Sinister Six movie, will set up the other characters and there origins. Then towards the end the assemble and have a devious plan to revenge on Spidey. Maybe we’ll see a well movie that explains thoroughly about the origins of the villains, that’d be pretty cool.

    • Well if its gonna be the movie you are talking about I’m all in. That could work.

  11. Sinister Six made of Shocker, Vulture, Rhino, Boomerang, Scorpion and Kraven the Hunter, and they should be OsCorps former mercenaries who lost their job because of Spider-Man and they want a revenge.

  12. Sinister 6 should, and would work best imo, be a Tarantino-esque anthology film. Along the lines of Reservoir Dogs. The 6 could have a common job in the opening that spirals out of control. Cut to chapters of each villain and their individual plots, along with flashbacks. In the end they either turn on each other for the climactic battle, or, they reconcile and come together to catch Spidey. Leading to ASM4.
    Anyone else think Peter Parker should die in the end of the series?

    • ^^^ brilliant

  13. Yawn….. With the money this would cost to make and the absolute saturation of the market with comic book movies they wont break even…. Ant Man?? Im not interested in that at all….

  14. Can some one please explain how a movie with the S-6 would work? Is Spider man in the film? If not how do the bad guys get stopped. Just trying to get my head around it. I mean the first Batman film in 89 . The Joker is featured more than Batman and it’s more his story but still Batman.