Marvel Roundup: ‘Amazing Spider-Man 2′ & ‘Captain America 2′ Villain Introduction Discussion

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Both Sony’s The Amazing Spider-Man 2 and Marvel Studios’ Captain America: The Winter Soldier are more than just self-contained comic book movie sequels, arriving in 2014. The next Spider-Man film will set the stage for at least two additional installments (with more spinoffs being a strong possibility), while the upcoming Captain America film will set the table for The Avengers: Age of Ultron arriving in 2015 (and potentially even a second season for the Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series, if it happens).

As such, both films will introduce key antagonists into their respective universes, but also keep them in the background so as to not overshadow the main superhero/supervillain conflict in each film (Spider-Man vs. Electro and Steve Rogers vs. Bucky Barnes, in turn). That includes Chris Cooper in Amazing Spider-Man 2 as pre-Green Goblin Norman Osborn – who was referenced, but never shown onscreen, in Amazing Spider-Man – and Frank Grillo in Captain America: The Winter Soldier as Brock Rumlow (who goes on to become the costumed villain Crossbones).

In separate interviews, Cooper and Grillo recently spoke about how the upcoming Spider-Man and Captain America sequels are, in essence, origin films for their respective takes on the Norman Osborn and Brock Rumlow characters. We have rounded up those quotes together here, for your reading convenience.


The Amazing Spider-Man 2

On the topic of Norman Osborn’s (re-)introduction to the big screen in Amazing Spider-Man 2, Cooper offered MTV the following:

“‘[Amazing] Spider-Man 2′ was an introduction to Norman, and — you’ll see — an extremely odd introduction, which apparently will lead to something more.”

These comments echo what Cooper said a couple months ago, when he teased that Amazing Spider-Man 2 will set the stage for “better things” involving Norman Osborn in Amazing Spider-Man 3 (and possibly beyond).

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Chris Cooper as Tex Richman in ‘The Muppets’

What’s interesting about all this is that the Oscar-winner Cooper generally sticks to more grounded character roles (see: the upcoming August: Osage County) and even tends to play outlandish roles – like his comically evil oil baron in The Muppets – with a completely straight face. Hence, if he does become the Green Goblin in a future Amazing Spider-Man film, Cooper’s take could be very different than Willem Dafoe’s cartoonishly over-the-top version in Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man movie.

Of course, there’s no guarantee that this will happen, which is something Cooper alluded to in his MTV interview:

When asked if he was familiar with the concept of the Sinister Six and its potential as the future direction of the series, Cooper said he was “vaguely” aware. “They sent me some material,” he said. “But they said also that this Spider-Man is its own Spider-Man. We’re just kind of starting from the beginning.”

A Sinister Six feature (teaming up famous Spidey villains like The Lizard, Electro, etc.) very much appears to lie in the cards right now, but it’s possible that Dane DeHaan (The Place Beyond the Pines) as Harry Osborn – having transformed into either the Green Goblin II or maybe even Venom – might take his father’s place as a member on the team of super-powered baddies. We’ll just have to wait until next May, to see how this all shakes out…


Captain America: The Winter Soldier

Frank Grillo appears in the latest Jason Statham action-thriller Homefront, which hits theaters this week; and thus, gave Crave Online an opportunity to pick the actor’s brain, with regard to his role as a pre-Crossbones Brock Rumlow in the Captain America sequel.

When asked if his character will be featured throughout the film, Grillo replied:

“Yeah, yeah, yeah. It’s an origin film. You meet people who are going to be around for a while, so they introduce the characters. It’s almost like it’s a series. It’s fun. I can’t say very much about it because Marvel’s very strict about what you’re allowed to say. The movie, we’ve seen bits of it, and it is spectacular.”

For those unaware: Brock is one of the people involved in that elevator fight sequence glimpsed in the teaser trailer for The Winter Soldier (which was shown in its full glory during the Marvel Studios panel at the 2013 International Comic-Con this past summer).

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Frank Grillo opposite Joel Edgerton in ‘Warrior’

Grillo, who has recently shined playing supporting roles in films like Warrior, The Grey, Disconnect and Zero Dark Thirty, isn’t the only well-regarded character actor joining the Marvel Cinematic Universe in Captain America 2. The film’s trailer prominently featured Robert Redford (All Is Lost) as a high-ranking S.H.I.E.L.D. employee, who looks to stir things up – and perhaps change the organization permanently, going forward into future Marvel releases like the Avengers sequel.

While he avoided going into specifics, Grillo assured Crave Online that the Marvel Studios’ brain trust has plans for Brock to appear in future movies – though he said he wasn’t all that interested in appearing on Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. at some point – and it’s possible that he will even suit up as Crossbones down the line.

As Grillo put it:

“We’ll see what happens. We’ll see if the fans respond to Brock and how it goes.”

On that note:


Captain America: The Winter Soldier opens in U.S. theaters on April 4th, 2014.

The Amazing Spider-Man 2 hits U.S. theaters on May 2nd, 2014.

Source: Crave Online, MTV

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  1. Chris Cooper mentioned John Sayles (meeting Dane Dehaan in one of his movies). The first movie I saw Chris Cooper in was “Matewan.” Been a fan ever since, and a fan of Sayles longer than that. They’ve collaborated a lot.

  2. Even Grillo knows to avoid that horrible show.

    Looking forward to seeing what they do with Osborn this time around.

    • @Dazz

      I don’t know. No knock on Chris Cooper, but Willem Dafoe is a tough act to follow…

      • I think the whole Raimi trilogy is a tough act to follow….I’m still ticked they rebooted.

  3. I can’t wait to see how many Falcon gangs are formed after this movie is released, lol.

    • I would love for Anthony Mackie to get the type of following that Tom Hiddleston has after this movie. The whole thing about Mackie is that he seems like such a fun person in interviews and at comic con but I don’t think they will portray him like that in the movie.

      • I was thinking the same thing. I liked all his Iron Man trash talking (although when they showed a few seconds of James Gunn, I wish they’d continued). I’ve seen some pretty bad characterizations of Falcon in comics, so I hope they do something good.

  4. Kind of wanted to hear from James Gunn after his three second appearance.

  5. Chris Cooper as Iron Patriot!

  6. from a 1 or 2 second clip of Falcon jumping off and flying i’m excited to see this character, which is weird cause i had the image in my head of Falcon in red/black tights and wings and was worried he would look really bad.

    i hope he gets more screentime then hawkeye did in Avengers

    • I thought Avengers did an amazing job of giving everyone time. Unfortunately Hawkeye had to be a zombie, but it still managed to introduce him and give him motivation for the finale.

    • Agree about everything else. The comic costume wouldn’t “fly,” and the CA trailer was all around cool, and Falcon was a highlight.

  7. Ryan Gosling as Venom…He’d be a good Eddie Brock.

    • Tom Hardy as Eddie Brock

  8. I think someone forgot to tell Frank Grillo that Crossbones is a throwaway character, perfect for Agents of Shield, which despite what the haters who don’t watch anymore, will tell you, has developed into one of the best shows out there. The last 3 episodes have been much better than say, “The Walking Dead”, this season.

    • Obviously you are entitled to your own opinion. But can you explain how AoS has been better than Walking Dead? I enjoy AoS but I can’t wrap my head around why you think it’s been better than WD? Gimple has completely rejuvenated the show this season (in my opinion). I’m just interested in your logic.

      • The Walking Dead is in its 3rd? season. Agents of Shield is still in its first. The comparison isn’t valid comparing them where each show is right now. And, they are two totally different shows

  9. Crossbones was present in captain america winter soldier, captain america red menace, the death of captain america, captain america reborn, some of the big cap storylines from the mid 2000′s onward…ed brubaker’s run totally redefined captain america and the new movie is obv taking inspiration from that.. making cap more of a spy and dealing wit political espionage and similar themes…so crossbones is very important for cap in my opinion especially since it seems like he’s goin to be an agent gone rogue/bad that works for the bad guy of the movie, alexander pierce…just my opinion…hope u don’t think I was attacking u in anyway

  10. I didn’t know Grillo was a pre-Crossbones in TWS. It’ll be interesting to see how he gets recruited into HYDRA, if it happens.

  11. I don’t necessarily have any reason to expect this, but I just think keeping some of these bad guys around for a bit and then introducing Baron Zemo and the Masters of Evil would be just fantastic. It would get away from the one really powerful bad guy deal or the whole alien invasion deal, and allow for that awesome team vs team action that I’ve always loved from the comics and cartoons. Winter Soldier, Abomination, Loki, a REAL Mandarin, Crossbones, and whoever else is added to the bad guy ramps until then and could easily be matched up with someone on the Avengers could all be added in and I would just be over the moon. That’s what I think. And of course you could then have it be ultimately all orchestrated by Thanos and al that cool junk too. So, yeah.