‘Amazing Spider-Man’ Producers Talk Spinoff Movies; ‘TASM 2′ Soundtrack Details

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Peter Parker is set to face his greatest battle when The Amazing Spider-Man 2 hits theaters on May 2nd but, thanks to an unprecedented amount of marketing for the upcoming film, some fans have already begun to speculate about future installments in the web slinger’s story. Rumors of a post-credits sequence in the second film caused Spider-fans to begin speculating about what villain (or villains) could take center stage when The Amazing Spider-Man 3 releases on June 10th, 2016.

Andrew Garfield is once again set to reprise his role as the titular hero for part three but Sony isn’t relying solely on Parker to bring in superhero profits – since the announcement of Venom and Sinister Six spin-off movies made it clear the studio plans to build a long-running Spider-Man centric shared movie universe. At the time, details were scarce (aside from who would write and direct each film); however, following the recent announcement that Marc Webb is returning for The Amazing Spider-Man 3, producers are starting to open up about what moviegoers can expect from the franchise long term.

Speaking to SFX, producers Matt Tolmach and Avi Arad discussed the upcoming tie-in films – championing the newly formed Spider-Man brain trust of Marc Webb, Alex Kurtzman, Bob Orci, Ed Solomon, Jeff Pinkner, and Drew Goddard.

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Discussing the collaborative process, Tolmach elaborated on the importance of symmetry (and quality writers) in such an expansive project:

“We should all be talking so that these movies feel as though they’re of a piece, so the fans feel like there’s symmetry. It’s a crazy luxury to have all these smart writers sitting around in a room brainstorming. Our jobs remain the same in terms of having to produce and direct the movies but it’s like putting together an all-star team – why not have the best players there all the time? So that was kind of a breakthrough idea that we’re just now really tapping into.”

Following Sony’s announcement of the Sinister Six movie, many fans wondered how a team full of super villains would work as the focus of a standalone story. Viewers even speculated that the Sinister Six project is actually just The Amazing Spider-Man 4, scheduled for May 4th, 2018 - which, if their speculation had been correct, could have seen Venom and Spider-Man team-up to fight the evildoer group.

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However, Tolmach added further evidence to a prior claim from Orci that Sinister Six really will be a standalone project – one that will lean heavily on internal group conflict:

“It’s a challenge in every sense. Obviously questions of traditional hero/villain dynamics have to be looked at. At the same time it’s an awesome challenge, because some of the greatest characters are in fact villains, and how you construct that is so much fun. People love those bad characters if they’re good bad characters, and love to watch them. And nobody’s all good, nobody’s all bad, and so where we end up with that story, I think, is a really awesome challenge, and we all smile when we think about what you can do. It’s definitely a bad-ass group of people and I think it’s going to be a ton of fun to watch them.”

Tolmach doesn’t outright deny that Spider-Man (and other heroes) could still factor into the Sinister Six solo film. Still, considering the conflicted morality of certain villains on the team, it is also possible that one or two members might decide to become less Sinister and fight against their former allies for the greater good.

Arad adds that Spider-Man villains are some of the most complex characters in comic book history – morally ambiguous people who are pushed to villainy (and super powers) due to personal circumstance:

“With Marvel characters, the villains are victims of circumstance. If you look at our villains, none of them were born like that. Our villains are nice and complex and in the world of film writing you can play with that, you can make some wonderful things out of it. The Spider-Man universe has amazing villains, they are all character driven.”

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No one sums up Arad’s assertion better than fan-favorite antihero Venom – a character that has both been foe and ally to Spider-Man. Yet, the version of Venom that ultimately appeared in Sam Raimi’s Spider-Man 3 (due to immense pressure from the studio) was a thin caricature – based on a whiney and insecure version of symbiotic host Eddie Brock. For that reason, fans of the series have been eager to see Venom portrayed in a way that highlights his grey sense of justice – a characteristic that Kurtzman and Orci have talked-up for years.

Fortunately, it sounds like the producers are in agreement. During the interview, Arad presented his hopes for the Venom spin-off – teasing the kind of Eddie Brock (or Flash Thompson) viewers will see:

“Venom hated only one guy – Spider-Man. He wasn’t innately bad, he was a shortcut guy, not really into fighting hard for achievement. That’s the Venom story. Can he also be a good guy? As you know, Venom was also called ‘lethal defender of the innocent’. We had a great history with him, especially caring for the homeless, which is a very sensitive issue and something that many of us are very concerned with. Our villains all represent a different side of the misunderstood, and some of them unfortunately turned to the dark side. Venom happened to be a phenomenal character. With Eddie Brock, or if you do Flash Thompson, it doesn’t matter who is going to be inside the suit – what’s important is that a man like him is going to realise there comes a time when you wake up in the morning and say ‘How did I get here? There must be a better way.”

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Given that Kurtzman, Orci and Solomon will write the film’s screenplay, with Kurtzman directing the project, it’s safe to assume that Venom won’t simply be the throwaway character that he was in Spider-Man 3.

Moviegoers can point to select Kurtzman and Orci scripts that didn’t turn into quality final films but, overall, they’ve helped bring a number of fan-approved projects to the big (and small) screen. Hopefully Arad’s choice to re-highlight the character’s “lethal defender of the innocent” title is the result of ongoing talks with the brain trust. It would serve as an interesting approach for the solo film – and could provide a fitting juxtaposition between Venom and Spider-Man’s (not to mention their methods for righting wrongs in New York City).


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In other Amazing Spider-Man news, Sony has released official information about the film’s soundtrack – which will feature a new song from Alicia Keys, Kendrick Lamar, Pharrell Williams, and Hans Zimmer called “It’s On Again.” Given that Hans Zimmer is credited, it’s safe to assume that the track, which was produced by Pharrell Williams, will likely incorporate The Amazing Spider-Man theme.

Speaking about how the song fits with The Amazing Spider-Man 2 tone, Webb asserted that the song will be used in the closing credits – as a way to end on an “upbeat” and “exciting” note:

“We were looking for just the right song to close out the film – a song that would be upbeat and exciting, but also contain a note of foreboding. Alicia’s song, ‘It’s On Again,’ is the perfect end note.”

Webb also offered a comment on Zimmer’s score, which was composed in collaboration with The Magnificent Six (Pharrell Williams, Johnny Marr, Michael Einziger, Junkie XL, Andrew Kawczynski, and Steve Mazzaro):

“For the overall score, I’m so amazed by what Hans Zimmer and the Magnificent Six were able to achieve with the music in the film. Every director wants his movie to have a unique sound, but this is beyond unique. It’s completely unlike any movie score that’s come before.”

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Since The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is expected to feature a very difficult blow to Peter Parker’s personal life, it’s interesting to hear Webb discuss the end of the movie as “upbeat.” That said, regardless of the consequences, Spider-Man will have made it through his greatest battle (yet) and considering the expansive plans for the franchise, the future definitely looks bright – at least for Sony’s bottom line.

According to the press release, music lovers and Spider-Man fans in the U.S. will be able to pick up The Amazing Spider-Man 2 soundtrack on April 22nd (a little over a week before the film’s release). If you’d like to read the full press release for The Amazing Spider-Man 2 soundtrack (featuring quotes from Alicia Keyes, Pharrell Williams, Kendrick Lamar, and Hans Zimmer), click on to the next page.


NEXT PAGE: Full Amazing Spider-Man 2 Soundtrack Press Release


The Amazing Spider-Man 2 opens in U.S. theaters on May 2nd, 2014, followed by The Amazing Spider-Man 3 on June 10th, 2016, and The Amazing Spider-Man 4 (or one of the spinoff films) on May 4th, 2018. Venom and Sinister Six do not currently have official release dates.

Follow me on Twitter @benkendrick for further updates on The Amazing Spider-Man film series as well as future movie, TV, and gaming news.

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  1. I love Spidey’s rogues but I would argue there are more superheroes with more complex and interesting villains.

    • Indeed. Despite the fact that Batman’s villains are all cut from the same cloth, I’d argue the likes of Venom and Two-Face are more interesting than Green Goblin and Electro.

      • *Joker and Two-Face, I meant.

        Although Venom is certainly one of Spider-Man’s most interesting villains.

        • Batman has the best villains, no doubt. Green Lantern’s foes are great. Sinestro, Black Hand, Atrocitus etc, very great characters. Even though they’re a bit cheesy, The Flash has a great set of villains. Aquaman even has two of my favorite villains, Black Manta and Ocean Master. Spider-Man and Superman both have a great, memorable villains but not many of the are all that interesting and engaging. For me anyway.

          • I agree on that. Both DC and Marvel have amazing villains.
            I’m interested on what they do with the Sinister Six, the first supervillains film (I know of). Without a doubt, if both films (Sinister Six and Venom) went on to be a success, I’ll tell you that Marvel/Disney, WB/DC, and FOX will try and jump aboard on making a villain film.

            • Marvel could definitely, for sure get away with making a successful Loki film. And WB/DC have been talking about a Suicide Squad film, so it can work.

              • A Loki film seems possible and is the most definite movie Marvel will go for. As for the Suicide Squad, I can it happen if WB go for it. I also heard they talk about Deathstroke, in which I’m ok with, though it’s hard to see another live action Deathsroke after Manu Bennett, he delivered the best Slade Wilson/Deathstroke.

                • Yeah, he’s pretty beast. I imagine in a movie they would go with an older guy to fit with the comics more.

                  • Stephen Lang. After seeing Avatar, his character is badass and can be a good fit for Slade Wilson.

                    • I can also picture him as Cable in marvel

          • Saying Spider-Man has a short handed villains list and then claiming Batman villains are the best sounds pretty naive. While Batman is my 5th favorite hero, his villains are pretty boring aside from Bane and Joker.
            Batman’s villains are all the same characters with different names, minus the Joker (which happens to be one of my all time favorite villains since 1989).

            I guess nobody here has read any Tales of or any Amazing Spider-man issues in from the past 50 years?
            Doctor Octopus, Green Goblin, Kraven the Hunter, Tombstone, Hammer Head,Venom Carnage, Scorpion, Spider Slayer/Alastare Smythe, King Pin, Shocker, Electro, Silver Sable, Carrion, etc etc etc all differ from each other greatly and have extremely rich backgrounds that are never shown in the cartoons and movies which by your comments leaves me to believe that is where you get your ideas from.

            Norman Osborn is very much Peter’s Lex Luthor and then some. The crap he has put peter through the past 52 years along with the Avengers and X-Men, man you can right a novel with the material. Doctor Octopus too. Kraven the Hunter has a rich history with Peter and is very much a deep character. Even the Rhino has had multiple intricate runs.

    • In my opinion Spider-Man and Batman have the best rogue galleries.

  2. Picture up top shows a “Sinister Seven”…there are 7 villains shown fighting Spidey. They had better give him some super allies if he is going to fight multiple villains. He is tough, but not that tough. As for a Sinister Six or Venom movie, I don’t think they can carry their own movies alone. Who would they fight?

    • That is a good question. Who do they fight? I’ve heard an idea that Venom can fight Carnage. But for the Sinister Six, I don’t know? Perhaps it’s the villains point of view fighting Spider-Man like how the Maleficent film is in the point of view of Maleficent herself?

      • That’s how I always imagined it.

        Hell, before Spider-Man 2 was even announced, I figured they could’ve had Spidey at the end swinging past an alley, camera shifts to a view of this dark alley and then you barely see Venom’s eyes and mouth as he opens his mouth to hiss/roar to end the movie then a Venom spin-off would start with his basic origin and have that alley scene midway through before he has a showdown with the webslinger for the final scenes, the whole movie seen from the viewpoint of Venom/Eddie Brock.

        Of course, that never happened and I’m glad because that original trilogy was horrendously camp and hard to watch. Wouldn’t have done the characters justice at all a decade ago.

      • Maybe the make an “Ocean’s 11″ style heist with superpowers :)

  3. At the end of the day, who REALLY wants a movie about Venom being “the hero”? I’m personally content with him being a being of pure horror and violence with the sole purpose of kicking Spidey’s butt,

    • Depends.

      If he’s the anti-hero living in San Francisco, I wouldn’t mind but if he’s gonna be full blown hero, I’d rather it be Anti-Venom taking on the Scorpion version of Venom or Carnage.

  4. So who will eventually end up as host for the alien symbiote?
    Will it be Eddie Brock , Flash Thompson or maybe even Mac Gargan ?
    I wanna see all the Symbiote’s on screen : Carnage, Scream, Toxin, Hybrid, Scorn & Anti-Venom

  5. Uh… government agent Flash Thompson Venom, please. It may not be a popular choice, and probably won’t happen, though.

  6. So if Sony is the studio that pressured Raimi into making Venom suck in Spiderman 3, why does anyone think it’s going to be any different next time around?

    • Because Raimi admitted he didn’t know why Venom was such a popular character and shoe-horned him into the plot to add to the Harry/Sandman story he wanted to tell.

      These people know the character, know what makes him so popular and they have plenty more time than Raimi ever had to do the character justice.

    • “So if Sony is the studio that pressured Raimi into making Venom suck in Spiderman 3, why does anyone think it’s going to be any different next time around?”

      i remember reading that raimi was not a fan of the 80′s venom era spider-man comics and was more of a fan of the 70′s spider-man comics. so he did the best he could with what he was a fan of and just stuck something in there that the studio wanted which didnt mesh well at all. the 1st 2 were great without the studio pressure of adding a villain that the director wasnt interested in. i feel that sony shoulda gave raimi another chance with a 4th one with his vulture idea without their meddling…but with much pride the company decided it was raimi’s fault he didnt deliver the goods and the money didnt speak loud enuff for the 3rd one…now with this next iteration of venom…if webb really gets into the comics whether he is already a fan or not and does a story that initially has venom in mind as an antagonist (not just thrown at him with pressure), i think it would be fair to say they have a better chance to get it right this time around…unless during mid-shoot they demand webb to include doc ock in there somewhere with pressure or something.

  7. I do give Sony kudos for the universe they are building, They could easily go the route of Marvel or DC, but have instead decided to bring something new to the game. I do really hope they succeed in making a good Venom movie and Sinister 6. Bring something new to the game and give fans more to enjoy. I will be seeing both movies no doubt. You can have my money Sony!