‘Amazing Spider-Man 2′ Director Talks Improving the Sequel & Multiple Villains

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The Amazing Spider-Man 2 is now in theaters, and it seems that Spidey’s second outing in his rebooted universe is shaping up to be this year’s Man of Steel; from the debate about the profits to the divisive love/hate split between fan opinion, there are more than a few parallels between the current cinematic versions of the Web-Slinger and Last Son of Krypton.

But while critics and viewers are all buzzing about how much they do or do not like the new Spider-Man movie, the one story that remains of interest to us (and we’re sure other movie fans) is how director Marc Webb approached his second crack at a Spider-Man blockbuster.

We were able to attend an Amazing Spider-Man 2 preview event where Marc Webb was in attendance, and he was kind enough to speak with journalists about everything from what he learned between the first and second films; that unique soundtrack by Hans Zimmer and his “Magnificent Six”; and why, exactly, this sequel needed Electro (Jamie Foxx), Green Goblin (Dane DeHaan) AND the Rhino (Paul Giamatti) as villains.

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READ: Our Amazing Spider-Man 2 Review

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Q: What is it about Spider-Man in particular, as a solo hero, that you think warrants multiple villains? That makes that work for him? 

MW: Well, you’re always trying to think of ways to challenge across the map. And different parts of the character are challenged by different villains. Different adversaries. Villain is sort of a simple word. One of the great things about the Marvel universe is the complexity of the villains. And like, there’s a sort of—often there’s a preexisting domestic relationship, as the case is with Harry Osborn, that makes those conflicts more emotional and deeper. And that was something [loud squeaking makes speech inaudible] at this point.

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Q: What did you learn on the first film that you brought to bear on this one? 

MW: Well, I think the learning curve on the first one was huge, I mean just in terms of the scope of visual effects. I had never carried something through with that scope And the—particularly the animation of Spider-Man and The Lizard,  like trying to create a kind of realism out of that was tricky and I didn’t know how it was going to finish. I just hadn’t had that kind of experience before. But now, having gone through that, I was able to anticipate, you know, think about how all those eventualities and obstacles and things that complicate your way.

I mean, there’s other things, obvious things like the suit for example. The first movie, I was really committed to thinking about how does this kid make this suit? That’s why the eyes were made out of glasses. And in some ways that was a mistake because I think people, hardcore fans, have such a connection to the specificity of the suit, and I sensed that and I was like, I’m going to go back to the iconic version of the suit, which is a little bit more like the Ultimate than the Amazing Spider-Man, so that’s just a couple of things—scope and just the degree of the visual effects.

And then, you know, I learned about what Andrew and Emma were capable of. We know each other very well now. I think we really, when we developing the script, thought about how just funny Andrew is. And how good at delivering that stuff he can be. And how committed he is to that. That was great. And how wonderful an actor Emma is. She not just funny, she’s really has a lot a of depth and that was something that we really exploited this time around.

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Q: You just touched on this idea of fan expectations and Electro is always a bit of a second banana among Spider-Man adversaries. I’m wondering if that liberated you to do more with him creatively and how you decided to take him in this direction.

MW: Yeah, I thought Electro—the original version of Electro had this star on his face and the green, yellow. But the cinematic possibilities of that character, I thought were just extraordinary. And I thought I have to be able to explore that, because there was something just really fun about playing with that. But in thinking about his character and what is the nature of this villain? Well, you kind of think about how to make him explosive and interesting visually, but emotionally as well. Like there was an actual quality about him that is bright and it is huge, and so this idea of a character that wants to be seen—and where does that come from?

The beginning of that character, Max Dillon. In order to understand Electro, you have to understand Max Dillon. And Jamie sort of invented this version of Max which I think is extraordinary. And he walks the line between felling this intense pathos for the character, but there’s also a madness there, too. There’s a seed of like, this guy’s psychotic, he’s dangerous. But he was an outcast, he was ignored by the people that should’ve loved him. Which is the same story as Peter Parker. And I think that builds or often foils a character. And so it’s just how they react to their situations that defines their character. And for Electro, you sort of backed into that story a little bit.

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Q: It looks like you had a slight change in your philosophy between these two films. I know in the first one, it tried to be a bit more grounded, more real world-ish. And this time it’s been said you’re trying to embrace the spectacular a little more. Was there something specific that inspired you to change your philosophy for the sequel? 

MW: I just felt there were so many visual possibilities. And I remember the feeling of reading the comic book. And when you’re walking into a Spider-Man universe, you’re walking into a dream world. I mean, there’s creatures that come out from the bed, there’s people that are made of electricity, there’s figments of the subconscious that are just jumping out and it’s magnificent. And I didn’t want to be bound. There’s certain things I wanted to try. I mean, just moving the camera around. You haven’t seen it but in the power pant sequence at the end, there’s this—I mean, we spent, we just unhooked the camera and we let it rip. And it was so much fun. It’s what I wanted to do. And it’s very important to keep the emotions grounded, to keep the characters in some real place. And Andrew and Emma are just so good at that side, Dane is so good at that, and Jamie is really good at that. So that was taken care of.

But I wanted that spectacle. There’s the 12 year-old kid in me that just gets up in the morning and is like, “what did I do right in a past life? This is awesome, what can I do to have fun?” And I just wanted to embrace that. I didn’t want to shy away from that. There was a park—I told the story where, like, in the first movie where you know I used that term grounded—which is true emotionally, and I’m committed to that—but like where a lizard is chasing a man in a skin-tight suit down a high school hallway, that’s not really the right word to use. (laughter) I need to open up my aperture.

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Q: I want to ask you about villains. Obviously they’re bigger, they’re bolder. You’ve got spectacular actors, you’ve got Jamie Foxx, you’ve got Paul Giamatti. What was it about these guys that you wanted to cast them? What do they bring to the characters? 

MW: Well, Jamie is just a brilliant actor. He is somebody that can do Ray and win an Academy Award for that, and has this ability to create real emotional depth, which I’ve talked about before. But he’s also in In Living Color, he’s a comedian. He’s super funny. And he can dance between them, and I wanted a big, theatrical villain. I wanted someone who’s fun and interesting, who’d embrace that. And Jamie’s perfect in that regard. And Paul Giamatti…you know, again, we have a very careful plan about how these things unfold and emerge, and it’s sometimes hard because I want to show everybody the movie but it’s like, you’ve got to protect that theatrical experience.

But Paul—I told this story before—Paul I saw on Conan O’Brien saying he was a big fan of the Rhino and I was like, that’s brilliant, he’d be a great version of that. So when we were concocting the script we sort of worked that in in a subtle way. I think these kinds of movies, these big scope movies, are great because you can get a caliber of actor interested and they have a blast. It’s really fun for everybody involved. But you also have cover to find new and interesting actor like Dane that haven’t been around for a while. And Andrew was that way. He was sort of a newbie. And that’s been a really fun journey, the cast is a blast.

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Q: As a female fan of action movies, I feel as though there’s great an emphasis on the female characters in this movie. That being said, is that deliberate on your part? Were you inspired by any women in your own life?

MW: We’re surrounded by really wonderful women in our group. But you know, honestly, the first movie, it’s a very sad thing, but Laura Ziskin was our producer and she was sort of the mother of the group, and she was really, she always had a female perspective. Spider-Man has always been known for Gwen Stacy and Mary Jane, they’re very strong female characters. Gwen Stacy in particular I’m a fan of because she’s so smart. You know what I mean? She’s really scientific, she a firecracker, and that’s really important, it’s just important for the universe. And Sally serves—when you see the movie, you’ll see just how important a role she plays, especially in the film. It’s a crucial part of Peter’s life and it’s a part that is…I think there are really strong female characters in superhero movies. There’s a lot of great female superheroes.

Again, people like Emma and people like Sally, when you have them working with you, you have to give them some opportunity to really play. It’s always impressive to me how great they are. To me it’s not something special, it’s not something we focus on, it’s just part of the Spider-Man universe. In particular Spider-Man.

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Q: Aside from Times Square, where in New York did you shoot, and by any chance did you shoot on Long Island?

MW: We did shoot on Long Island. We built a massive version of Times Square on Long Island in a parking lot. And so we shot part of that in Times Square and we a lot of that stuff on Long Island. We shot the stages on Long Island. We shot in Brooklyn, we shot…Harry Osborn’s house was down on Wall Street. We converted an old bank. We shot all over. Everything was shot in New York state. The car chase we shot in Rochester.

Q: Do you know what studio on Long Island you used? 

MW: Grumman.

Q: So at SXSW you did that whole thing with the music, and this is the most music I think we’ve seen in a superhero movie. Can you talk a little bit about what that process was like?

MW: Sure. This time I wanted to use Hans Zimmer because I wanted to use Hans and a contemporary artist. And then bring them together to create music and incorporated that into the world because I wanted it to feel contemporary, I wanted people to walk outside the theatre and feel like this world mattered, or the cultures were rich. And Hans, in the way that only Hans can, called up Pharrell and was like, hey, come in and start collaborating. And it was awesome. But then Johnny Marr comes in and, you know in my first movie, (500) Days of Summer, The Smiths played a rather large part with that movie. (laughs) I remember we all had dinner, it was Pharrell, Hans, Junkie XL, and Johnny Marr and I went to screen the movie for them after dinner and he was riding in the back of my Volkswagen and I was like sweating the entire time because I was like, Johnny Marr is in my car, this is awesome. (laughter)

But They are incredible collaborators, and really committed to understanding the process of scoring a film, which is very different than writing pop music. But what Hans did in order to get he most out of that was have everybody come in for a week, 10 days, and they just jammed, and basically wrote a record. And then they put the chord progressions and the themes of that record, Hans had arranged them into the different pieces. For example, the love theme came from a song that Pharrell wrote. Which I think will be on the record. So it was a different kind of process for writing a score.

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Q: On the topic of music and transposing the music like Hans did for Electro with a virtual orchestra, where you’re basically getting inside his head – is that indicative of how the villains will have an emotional overstory, maybe more so than in the first one?

MW: Interesting. Yes, well, we were very specific. There’s a story behind that voice inside his head. So Pharrell came in and I showed him the movie, and we were trying to enhance the balance between Max Dillon’s psychosis and his pathos. So Pharrell was trying to figure out how to make that happen, how to hit that mark, and he came up with the idea of this voice inside his head. There was a part in Times Square where I needed to have Electro switch against Spider-Man. And those voices became sort of dominant, like a cause of that. I think it helped signal that in a way.

But the voices start much earlier in the film. Pharrell spent hours writing down all these little lyrics that go on and on. It was like the notebooks in Seven. And we sped them up—a guy name Dom did the recording of those. It was an interesting thing because the music became part of the character.  And that’s something that happened, I mean literally a part of the character. Those voices are a way to connect the audience to the thought process of the character. And that was something that helped me with the narrative later on.

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Q: A lot of recent superhero movies don’t focus that much on the secret identities, especially of the villains. But that seem to be something that’s important to you in both these films. Why is that such a focus for you?

MW: I don’t know, that’s a good question. I’ll have to ask my therapist about that. (laughter) I mean, listen, secrets—I think about that in terms of Peter Parker. In the first movie, there was a lot of people who were like, when I was developing it, I feel like he should tell Gwen. If I were a seventeen year-old trying to impress a girl, of course I would tell her, to try to impress her, and build some confidence between the two of them. There was an issue because people said you’re going to lose all the dramatic opportunities of concealing an identity, which is a fun thing to play in a scene. But it didn’t feel real to me to hide that. Because he hasn’t really learned why he has to keep the secret. In this movie he’s going to realize why he has to keep the secret. Villains have the same thing.

Q: Why is the civilian focus for the villain so important though? 

MW: What do you mean the civilian?

Q: Well, like introducing Max Dillon as Max Dillon—

MW: Well Max transforms, so he doesn’t really have a secret identity. Just he starts one way and he transforms, so he doesn’t go back and forth. So there are various subtleties to it, but I’ll leave that for you to see later.

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Q: What is your favorite part of directing The Amazing Spider-Man 2?

MW: I love that question, thank you. (laughter) I think working on the music is really fun. It’s something I’ve always enjoyed doing. It’s a small space with a lot of really creative people and I get to work with people that are way more talented and smarter than I am and that’s always enjoyable because eventually I get to take credit for it. (laughter) That was something that’s very pure and intuitive for a lot of people. I really admire the musicians in particular. That’s really fun. And working with the actors, working with production designers, working with the creative people who surround the process is really fun, it’s really inspiring and I take great pleasure in working with them. That’s what’s most fun about directing.

Q: The voices in Max’s head, are they related in any way to Man in the Shadows at the end of the first movie? 

MW: Wow. Great question…No. (laughter) I could also just as easily say yes now! That’s such a great idea.

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Q: The effects in this movie, just from what we’ve seen here, it’s clearly moved beyond what you did in the previous one, and several increments beyond what’s in the Sam Rami movie. And the thing that you most want to see is the physicality and the technicality of Spider-Man himself and how he moves. I’m curious how you mapped out those effects. Did you actually have certain goals and sort of pushing visual people, did you have them come to you with ideas of what you could do? 

MW: Yeah, we have a team of animators that are across the country. Most of them are in Vancouver, some of them are in Los Angeles. Our lead animator is a guy named Dave, who does most of the Spider-Man work. I worked with him on the first move. We developed a short hand. And Andrew moves a certain way, and we tried to incorporate through motion capture just observation how to make that work. And because we’re so far along in the leaning curve after the first movie, we made mistakes that sometimes that sometimes I’m like, oooh. This time I handed off the sequences earlier because I had more confidence in what they were going to be. So could have the visual effects people working on them longer so we had more time to complete them.

Animating Spider-Man is an incredibly difficult task. It involves many, many layers. It took 16 days to render out the suit flapping on his back. It was a tiny detail that made it look real. And up until that point it was just like, what the fuck? This isn’t looking right. I’m sorry I sweared. (laughter) Swearing may be my favorite part. The fact that I don’t get yelled at for swearing is actually my favorite part. (laughter)

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But those little details really help that character come alive and makes it feel a little more tactile, a little more real. It’s just having the time to do that. And the animators have huge walls filled with Spider-Man comic books with all his poses so we know which—to convert an illustration into live-action is very difficult, because the illustrations are often exaggerated and are not exactly realistic, but they contain  spirit and a description of his agility. And whenever we could we would glom on to a certain kind of pose, and one of the animators would have an idea and we would figure out how to back into that.

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  1. Electro was the main villain, goblin was the battle with stakes which made Electro come across as time filler.

    Franco’s Harry was conflicted and that is always going to trump the i’m angry so i’m evil portrayal.

    A good example of that was the evolution of Anakin Skywalker to Darth Vader who simply came across as a ticked off punk so he went and killed a bunch of children compared to Harry Potter in The Order of the Pheonix when Voldermort almost convinced Harry to embrace his dark self.

    Those scenes with Potter were believable because of what the character had gone through.

    Clearly Potter had more time to develop the character than one Spiderman film but I think Raimi pulled it off because there was an implied history of Harry watching his beloved best mate getting his fathers affection. A bit deeper than been ticked for being sent to boarding school.

    As a Trek fan I was a little disappointed to see the super blood plot device of Into Darkness duplicated over as well. Felt a little like painting by number.

    Many good things, Garfield is great but I would love to come away from a Spider Man film feeling like I did after Captain America, or the Avengers. I might be wrong but I am almost certain that Spidey should be a guaranteed billion dollars on every outing as long as the story is well told.

  2. Ohhhhh…well if he explains it then it’s okay then. Whew. Thanks for clearing that up how you made it better,

  3. Spider-Man 2 is head & shoulders superior to Man Of Steel.
    Man Of Steel was an overhyped, overpriced piece of cinematic $hit.

    • You mean $ + hit. Which means it made money and is a hit.

      • Man of Steel actually had a solid plot with heavy thematic elements and complex characters and actual character development. I enjoyed the hell out of Amazing Spider-Man 2 but people need to stop comparing these two movies. They’re completely different.

        • Coming from someone who LOVED TASM 2 and Man Of Steel, I think they’re comparable.

          *SPOILERS* *SPOILERS* *SPOILERS* *SPOILERS* *SPOILERS* *SPOILERS* *SPOILERS* *SPOILERS* *SPOILERS* *SPOILERS*
          - Both films have an incredible cast

          - Like Kofi said, both films are extremely divisive, from some people thinking they’re the best Supers/Spidey movie ever, to others saying they’re the worse movies ever

          - Both films have problems when it comes to pacing, and they both feel a little bloated at times, they’re not perfect

          - But they also have some of the, if not THE best scenes from any Superman/Spider-Man film yet. (Krypton intro, first flight scene, Spider-Man vs Electro, Gwen’s death scene)

          - They’re both getting backlash from a bunch of contradictory critics that can’t let go of the past “Aww, shucks!” iterations of Spidey/Supes because they think they know how these characters are “supposed” to be portrayed.

          I give both films a 4 out of 5 stars because they had their problems, but I was also fulfilled and felt a sense of wonder watching both of them. But I do think 3.5/5 is a fair rating for both. The fact that these two films have lower RT ratings then Superman Returns, Spider-Man 3, and Iron Man 2 is ridiculous.

          • Wow, completely agree! I thought Man of Steel and this were both fantastic, but they did have their issues. I would still give both 4 out of 5 stars. I agree on how ridiculous it is that both of these movies got so many bad reviews. I mean, they’re not PERFECT, but I guess some people just love to hate.

            • Both ASM2 & MOS were pure popcorn movies. Meaning they’ll bring in the box office cash, but not the critics admiration

              • Who cares about the critics? They’re pointless. They don’t make the money–we do. And ASM and MOS made lots and lots of money. Money talks.

        • + spider-man 2 sucks you can compare it to man of steel but you sure can compare it to the notebook

          • can’t compare to mos

        • Agreed. Stop comparing the two movies; they’re from completely different universes. Man of Steel did a great job developing the characters and the man who would become Superman. After I walked away from that movie, I felt inspired. It was fantastic. But again…we’re talking about ASM2, which in itself was a good movie, but still…too many villains. If they’re “so complex,” WHY DID YOU TRY TO CRAM THEM INTO ONE MOVIE??

      • Ah, finally! Now I understand the “new math”!

      • READ MY NAME

    • And others see it the other way around. I personally loved Man of Steel, and thin ASM 2 is ok with a side of disappointment.

    • With Spiderman 2 I felt I was more emotionally invested in the characters than on Man of Steel. Yes it has its flaws, but I actually enjoyed it, and not to say Gwen’s death really shocked me. Now that Gwen’s death, my only concern is that I don’t know how to look forward with Spiderman 3; I don’t know how to tie the knots and still be emotionally invested after everything that happened. Man of steel was ok with great visuals and everything, but the story really didn’t capture the same magic and sense of awe I was expecting.

  4. They should have called this crap ultimate spiderman because they have not looked nothing
    Like the amazing spiderman comic book and iam glad this movie may not crack 235 million
    domestically and certainly will not get a billion worldwide. Feel sorry for sony and their ineptness at
    creating franchises so they sell rights back to marvel rather then say here is a big fat chicken for you
    So you can turn into a ny strip steak even you want spidey with his super friends.

  5. And we sony pictures would like to further insult you fans by
    1. Giving you one of the blue men as electro.
    2. Giving you a weak built looking british actor as spiderman.
    3. A rhino who looks like a mexican transformer
    4. An oscorp who is responsible for creating the sinister six and other mutated problems.
    5. Copying the original trilogy all over again.
    6. Etc, etc, etc.

  6. Webb could make a good spiderman movie if it was called, The Romancing Spiderman,
    the sequel focused way too much on the gwen/peter relationship
    at first it was fine but the oxford and i love you bridge scenes were really pointless to the main story and eat up a lot of time.

  7. Stop trying to cover up, Sony. Sht sucked, and I’m not going to see it. I may not even see Venom & Sinister Six if these are the kind of reviews and cover-ups that come with your movies.

    • So your criticism is based on a review? You haven’t actually seen the movie for yourself to contribute effectively and accurately to the above article? And you may not view future films in the Sony Marvel Universe based on reviews for another movie in the Sony Marvel Universe? #greatinput

      • Hey Spider-Dan

        Your “#greatinput” don’t work here. #Go ## #your #self #somewhere #else

    • If you haven’t seen it then how do you know it sucks? I saw it and enjoyed it but by no means am I trying to force my opinion on you. Just bugs me when people says something sucks when they haven’t even seen more than the trailers and going off the more bad reviews than good. If you’re going to say it sucks don’t include that you’re not going to see it.

      • It sucked. The trailer + articles is enough to know what happens. And I’ll give the ultimates are credit when Marvel quits drawing like everything has a manga influence.

  8. Ask him about the Director’s cut next time!

  9. Yeah, I think in terms of character development and overall quality, MOS is a better film compared to TASM 2. I ennoyed both of them, and TASM 2 finally made me like Garfield more than Maguire as a whole, but I felt MOS was handled very well. TASM 2 is tremendously fun, but I can’t praise it as a definitive means for storytelling. Sure as hell trumped the 1st TASM, which has an unbearable 1st half IMO.

    • Enjoyed*

  10. Marc Webbs spiderman movies would be better if they were called
    “The Spectacular Indie Movie Romancing Spiderman”.

    • “Not so spectacular Spider-Man”

  11. TASM 2 was great film imo. I don’t see how many people could nay say about it when it’s one of the best spidey films yet. Im not gonna compare it to MOS but to past spidey films i would.

    • I will preface this by saying I enjoyed the movie when it wasn’t CGI overload. The villains had the most paper thin motivations. Electro was Jim Carrey from Cable Guy and Jim Carrey from Batman Forever. Harry flipped faster than Anikan in the prequels. Rhino was there as unnecessary filler for a future Sinister 6, as evidenced by the tease fight at the end that should have ben after the credits, or not in the movie at all. At least 15 min could have been cut and it wouldn’t have changed a thing. Heck, two big plot points from the trailer didn’t even make the cut as is. And the two planes almost crashing into each other towards the end added more false tension and all the scenes involving the planes and air traffic controllers should have been cut. It’s like the writers said “hey, we need a Batman Begins moment in our Spider-Man. I got it, the train sequence, perfect.” Those are the most glaring that I caught after one viewing.
      Yes, the movie was enjoyable at times, and maybe if there is a rumored “directors cut” I might check it out again on blu-ray. I would love to see all the deleted scenes that would have made the movie more cohesive.
      Like I said, the character moments were great, but the script needed a major rewrite. I guess they learned nothing from
      Spiderman 3 or Iron Man 2.

      • +1 on the planes and air traffic thing. That had absolutely nothing to do with anything else going on in the film. Infact, I hated when they did that stuff in Nolan’s Batman trilogy. It takes away from the story. Intelligent people realize bad things happen in the off-screen world during films. You don’t need to show it happening, cutting away from plot points to show something to add a level a severity. It was redundant. Same thing with Aunt May at the hospital…those scenes were my biggest problem with this film. That, and the Times Square scene. I get the theatrics and all, but I was not a fan of that scene. Besides that, the movie was great.

        • I loved ASM 2 and I also recognized the planes as a huge weakness.

          Still not as bad as the cranes-lining-up scene in ASM 1 (which I also loved).

    • WHAT?! I was awesome in the original Spider-Man 2. Go F yourself you panzy. I got enough tentacles on me that you know whats coming tonight

  12. Kofi – Please ban Sage now. He is one of the biggest trolls on Comic Book Movie.com & is doing the same here. Regardless if you like this movie or not there is a way to communicate your opinion in a respectful, intelligent fashion. Don’t allow Screen Rant to become like the others.

    You run a great site here & it’s so nice to come to one professionally done with minimum trolls. While there will always be a few bad apples I’m telling you now, the sooner you ban Sage the better.

    • I don’t post on CBM.com

      Wrong guy. Everyone who’s opinions I trust say ASM2 was a failure, and judging by all these new articles about deleted scenes, director’s cut, and general excuses make me confident about resisting the urge to see the film. I’m not spending 10-16 bucks for people to say “I told you so” like when I went to go see Robocop.

  13. Just got back from seeing the movie the first time, and I liked it. No where near as good as the Winter Soldier, but solid.

    However what honestly pissed me off; why was the last 30 seconds of the movie, aka Spiderman vs Rhino, shown almost in it’s complete entirety in the trailer? You cut to black with Spiderman hitting Rhino with the sewer cap, which is a scene I’ve seen 20x in trailer already, wtf is that?

    • Probly sets up the next sequel set of events. Paul G. wasn’t in the film very long so maybe he gets a bigger role in the next film. Im not familiar with the mysterious guy Harry talked to. Forget his name.

  14. Am i the only one who doesn’t care for the Rhino get up? I just thought maybe they could do better was all.

    • Yeah the Rhino Zorde. Not even close to the so called Ultimate version all these desperate spidey fans keep pushing. Sorry guys it looked more like the Black Rangers Mastadon

  15. I will buy the DVD on this when it comes out, and watch it in full for the first time then. Gotta have the flick anyways for my collection, so why spend the extra money at the theater when I know I will buy it irregardless of good, bad, or otherwise anyways a few months later? Sure, you don’t get the “big screen experience”, but I am willing to forgo that so I have more money available to buy more DVDs.

  16. im gonna have to get rid of some of my old dvds to make room for new ones, May ask for help on that,lol.

  17. You know Marc Webb wanted to tell Sony to F off more than once. I wish the studio would just let him make his Spiderman movie.

  18. Joel Schumacher and director Marc Webb loved the Amazing Spider-Man 2…but you shouldn’t. No bat-nipples but still just as bad, say I.
    The shaky camera footage is the first thing you should note about how bad this movie is, which leads one to believe that the cameraman was an 80 year-old with Parkinson’s. I thought that film style was gone with the 90′s but Marc Webb brought it back along with the soundtrack from Ladyhawke. The second whoa-hold-on-a-sec-here, has the movie started yet or is this a preview for another Waynes-Brothers Scary Movie? is the terrible music.
    A musical score is supposed to stress emotional cues or identify characters. What the bleepity-bleep was Hans Zimmerman & The Magnificent Six trying to stress besides the audience?! At most a soundtrack should be background, subtle to the point of not noticing it, unless we’re talking Rock-Opera like Flash Gordon, not the blaring horns of a helmeted-Italian singer.
    Next comes the writing. Oh God, the writing, why God, why are these people employed? The leaps to logic the writers came up with will make any 4 year-old question, WHY? Why does Electro hate Spider-Man? Why does Electro remind me of Michele Pfeiffer’s Selina Kyle, pre-Catwoman (watch the two side-by-side and you’ll get me)? Why does everyone in New York work at Oscorp? Why did I waste my life on this movie?
    As for the cast, Andrew Garfield plays a charismatic Spider-Man fitting for the character but for the love of all that’s holy, stand still a moment you fidgety freak, we’re trying to film here. Kids are dragging their parents to see SPIDER-MAN, not ADDrew Garfield as Peter-Parker. I honestly think I had more screen-time than our favorite web-head.
    Emma Stone is brilliant as always, a true first-class actress delivering emotional, grounding satisfaction to the Gwen Stacey character. You are as emotionally invested in her as Peter Parker is, well done Emma, well done.
    Jamie Foxx as Electro…um…I don’t know, you tell my why his character is so emotionally unstable, because the movie sure didn’t explain it. While you’re at it please tell me why Hollywood loves the line, “I designed it.”
    If Dane DeHaan and Saoirse Ronan had a child, it would be a Unicorn. Those two are magical humanoids that should be filmed and observed at all times. Aside from the magical presence Dane brings to the film, the Green Goblin costume is nothing more than hairspray and false-teeth. What a disappointment to follow his storyline for 2 hours to be let down by false teeth and hairspray. Hairspray, people, hairspray! The Green Goblin is Spider-Man’s Joker, treat it with respect and the character will reward you. Didn’t the Joker win an Oscar?
    Paul Giamatti as the Rhino…what the $%#*?! No really, what the $%#*?! and the rest, here on Gilligan’s Isle….meh.
    Be happy that you didn’t spend any more money to see it other the monthly subscription fee to catch some of it on HBO before you changed the channel. If you did spend money on it like me, at least we have Alzheimer’s to look forward to…which this movie probably causes.

    • I didn’t read what you posted, it was too long. But I liked it.

  19. This was a perfect Spiderman imo. I think CBMs should explore different aspects of the character’s lives & not just the superhero/supervillain perspective. Imagine a Bruce Wayne movie purely based in business, finance & accounting or something, that would be a brilliant concept except fans would never accept it.
    Zack Snyder was right, people grow too attached to what has already been done.

    • No. People respect the source material too much! It needs to be changed so we directors can make a name for ourselves, how can you so called fans not understand that?!!?

  20. I liked Amazing Spiderman 2. Was it perfect? No what movie is? But it was good I can’t wait to see the Sinister six and Amazing Spiderman 3.

    As for people wanting it to go back to Marvel let it go because it’s not going to happen. I want to see Spiderman in the Avengers too but it’s not going to happen.

    Even if it went back to Marvel, by the time they would make a movie all the other Avengers would be new actors. But Spiderman does have the best villains in the Marvel Universe.

    • Agreed completely that he has the best and most interesting villains in the Marvel Universe. However, unlike most, I don’t want to see Spidey in the Avengers. I like him on his own in a separate universe.

  21. The characters were fine, perfomrances where great, the action is the best spiderman yet, 3d was stunning while I’m generally not a fan, The problem was in the pacing and showing us the will they wont they love story that i’ve ALREADY SEEN in the 1st movie. I like the chemistry between these too there was too much of it. Cut 15 mins of this and add this to the development of the brilliant de haan and redit a few of the seens and it goes from being a 3 out of 5 to 5 for me. Garfield is definitive as Parker but he needs a less clunky story to work with. I hope this will be addressed with the next one.

  22. ‘re-edit a few of the scenes’

  23. Here’s hoping that I come out of the next one thinking that I didn’t waste my money, if I even see it.

    Poor direction, boring movie, uninteresting villain (Electro).

    • Yeah I know. I thought the same thing but thats what Sony wants. Sam Raimi was right…

  24. My apologies if you are not the same Sage on Comic Book Movie. Just looked like something he’d post there. Not that I go there much as the actual contributors are fan boys posting articles as fact when it is their opinion. Screen Rant does not have that issue and is very professional, intelligent & factual.

    • MUHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

  25. -I thought they did a bit too much of the Peter/Gwen relationship, especially when you consider how fast he got over her death and donned the spider suit again.

    -Rhino’s mech suit looked to clunky, would have prefared if it had looked something like http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20110224194150/marveldatabase/images/a/a3/Ultimate_Spider-Man_%28Video_Game%29_Alexander_O%27Hirn_%28Earth-TRN005%29.jpg

    -Didn’t like the whole voices in Electro’s head thing, felt stupid. If he had been hearing voices before his transformation than it would have been a lot more believeable.

    -The crowd just standing there watching Spider-man fight either Electro or Rhino made no sense. If something as dangerous as either of them appears wouldn’t you run as far away as possible instead of standing there like an idiot? It only made Spider-man’s job that much harder.

    • Ha no I would stand and watch Spider Man.

  26. So Oscorp can have pretty much anything they want…

    The villains have all this power. Yet they just want to stick around and fight spider-man in new york instead of attacking the government..?

    Sounds dumb as Bane only looking to temporary rule Gotham until the Batman returns just so he and the chick he didnt get to bone blow the place up.

  27. ASM2 gives us a great Peter/Spider-man, everyone in Peter’s personal life is also handled well with strong performances by great actors and a director who clearly made and effort to make them resonant and true to character. The villains (Electro, Rhino, Goblin) and other Oscorp baddies feel too simplistic, verging on campy, and most of the plot holes (but not all) exist in villains parts of the story. Electro’s origin was weak in two ways: motivation and power acquisition. Goblin’s was better on both counts at least conceptually, but way too rushed.

    I was willing to give it the shortcomings a pass until the Goblin’s arrival after Electro’s defeat. When the villains aren’t well rendered the evil that they do is cheapened. Losing Gwen to that Goblin was a waste of good storytelling. I would have much preferred that event in the third film, with perhaps a narrative of Spidey desperate to save both Gwen from Goblin, and Harry from himself.

    I looooove Spider-Man, and many Super Heroes from both Marvel and D.C. Out of respect for the character, I wish ASM2 weren’t flawed in a way that diminishes it’s many successes. To compare it loosely with MoS, ASM2 got the character right, but rushed the villians and compromised the movie. MoS took the time it needed to make the bad guys equal to the good guys in terms of depth and detail, but they missed delivering the character of Kal/Clark. And, I agree, these are very different characters to begin with.

    I’m sure Sony and WB are reading these posts and it will all be better next time around.

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