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		<title>By: NYC Comic Con: Summit Entertainment Panel - Screen Rant</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Feb 2009 05:05:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Ken J</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/alex-proyas-thoughts-crow-dracula-year-carl-5251/comment-page-1/#comment-61140</link>
		<dc:creator>Ken J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 21:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yah, it was pretty bad... I didn&#039;t know the specifics of it though, it&#039;s been YEARS since I&#039;ve seen the old superman movies, they are all jumbled up in my mind, lol.</description>
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		<title>By: David Hasselbach</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/alex-proyas-thoughts-crow-dracula-year-carl-5251/comment-page-1/#comment-61131</link>
		<dc:creator>David Hasselbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 20:26:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Ken J

Superman Returns was a retcon. (Or however that&#039;s spelled)
It took away the last 2 films, changed the timeline, crapped onto the speech of Superman II&#039;s ending (&quot;I will never ever leave you again. Ever. Really. I swear.&quot; - or something) and &quot;updated&quot; the style and design.

And, lets not forget, it didn&#039;t work at all.

I don&#039;t think that the term &quot;sequel&quot; applies here. Neither does &quot;reboot&quot;.

It was just crap. *shrugs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Ken J</p>
<p>Superman Returns was a retcon. (Or however that&#8217;s spelled)<br />
It took away the last 2 films, changed the timeline, crapped onto the speech of Superman II&#8217;s ending (&#8220;I will never ever leave you again. Ever. Really. I swear.&#8221; &#8211; or something) and &#8220;updated&#8221; the style and design.</p>
<p>And, lets not forget, it didn&#8217;t work at all.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think that the term &#8220;sequel&#8221; applies here. Neither does &#8220;reboot&#8221;.</p>
<p>It was just crap. *shrugs*</p>
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		<title>By: Ken J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 09:45:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think those were sequels, not reboots...</description>
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		<title>By: Ken J</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ken J</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 00:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@greenknight

Was Superman Returns a reboot?? I thought it was a sequel because they kept referring to him leaving and them him coming back??

Anyway, I wouldn&#039;t compare Casino Royale to Bourne. The fights last much too long and are much more realistic. Bourne seems like he can kill someone or knock them unconscious with one blow to a seemingly non vital area, pretty fake and stupid in my opinion. In CR Bond had to literally beat people to death. Much more like how it is in real life.

And I agree that The Crow shouldn&#039;t be remade... Mr. Brandon Lee will be turning over in his grave... He did a great job in the original Crow, no need to redo it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@greenknight</p>
<p>Was Superman Returns a reboot?? I thought it was a sequel because they kept referring to him leaving and them him coming back??</p>
<p>Anyway, I wouldn&#8217;t compare Casino Royale to Bourne. The fights last much too long and are much more realistic. Bourne seems like he can kill someone or knock them unconscious with one blow to a seemingly non vital area, pretty fake and stupid in my opinion. In CR Bond had to literally beat people to death. Much more like how it is in real life.</p>
<p>And I agree that The Crow shouldn&#8217;t be remade&#8230; Mr. Brandon Lee will be turning over in his grave&#8230; He did a great job in the original Crow, no need to redo it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone but me remember one very clear fact- there have already been three The Crow reboots.  Not to mention a short lived tv serious.  None of which even came close to the original.  Bradon Lee is a legend and no one will be able to do what he did with that character, ever.  So get the picture Hollywood, there is only one The Crow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone but me remember one very clear fact- there have already been three The Crow reboots.  Not to mention a short lived tv serious.  None of which even came close to the original.  Bradon Lee is a legend and no one will be able to do what he did with that character, ever.  So get the picture Hollywood, there is only one The Crow</p>
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		<title>By: James</title>
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		<dc:creator>James</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 20:54:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>does anyone but me remember one very clear fact- there have already been three The Crow reboots.  Not to mention a short lived tv serious.  None of which even came close to the original.  Bradon Lee is a legend and no one will be able to do what he did with that character, ever.  So get the picture Hollywood, there is only one The Crow</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>does anyone but me remember one very clear fact- there have already been three The Crow reboots.  Not to mention a short lived tv serious.  None of which even came close to the original.  Bradon Lee is a legend and no one will be able to do what he did with that character, ever.  So get the picture Hollywood, there is only one The Crow</p>
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		<title>By: The Forbidden Planet International Blog Log &#187; Crow remake? No, no, no, leave it alone&#8230;</title>
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		<dc:creator>The Forbidden Planet International Blog Log &#187; Crow remake? No, no, no, leave it alone&#8230;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 15:41:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: David Hasselbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hasselbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 13:40:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ greenknight

The arch nemesis is actually HORTON!

*snickers*

*mars*

*milky way*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ greenknight</p>
<p>The arch nemesis is actually HORTON!</p>
<p>*snickers*</p>
<p>*mars*</p>
<p>*milky way*</p>
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		<title>By: greenknight333</title>
		<link>http://screenrant.com/alex-proyas-thoughts-crow-dracula-year-carl-5251/comment-page-1/#comment-60651</link>
		<dc:creator>greenknight333</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:24:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ David Hasselbach 

I guess I will have to give the Dr Who a try...hey the Who is my favorite band..with Keith Moon that is, so maybe I can find a way to segue to two..

The Who meet Dr Who against there arch nemesis the Guess Who..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ David Hasselbach </p>
<p>I guess I will have to give the Dr Who a try&#8230;hey the Who is my favorite band..with Keith Moon that is, so maybe I can find a way to segue to two..</p>
<p>The Who meet Dr Who against there arch nemesis the Guess Who..</p>
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		<title>By: greenknight333</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenknight333</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 02:21:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know it&#039;s not related to the thread but:

I just watched HULK VS Wolverine &amp; Thor, the new animated movie and I think it was bad (Wolverine portion) Thor portion was so-so..why is Banner made to be such a sniviling whining chump in these Marvel animated movies...get a spine Buddy!!Hulk screaming all the time was hard on the head...Make himlike he was in the movie this pass summer..that&#039;s a little easier on the melon...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know it&#8217;s not related to the thread but:</p>
<p>I just watched HULK VS Wolverine &amp; Thor, the new animated movie and I think it was bad (Wolverine portion) Thor portion was so-so..why is Banner made to be such a sniviling whining chump in these Marvel animated movies&#8230;get a spine Buddy!!Hulk screaming all the time was hard on the head&#8230;Make himlike he was in the movie this pass summer..that&#8217;s a little easier on the melon&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: David Hasselbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hasselbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:28:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ greenknight

Dammit ... I didn&#039;t answer your question. :-)
The special effects are not sub-par, but mostly barely fitting to what they want to get across.

The storytelling on the other hand ... ranges from remarkable to pathetic.

Not the greatest promotion of the show, I know, but it IS WORTH checking out, especially if you&#039;re into Sci-Fi.

It&#039;s a rich and fertile ground that Doctor Who is seeding on and despite the occasional misfire, there&#039;s quite a lot to love.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ greenknight</p>
<p>Dammit &#8230; I didn&#8217;t answer your question. <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
The special effects are not sub-par, but mostly barely fitting to what they want to get across.</p>
<p>The storytelling on the other hand &#8230; ranges from remarkable to pathetic.</p>
<p>Not the greatest promotion of the show, I know, but it IS WORTH checking out, especially if you&#8217;re into Sci-Fi.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a rich and fertile ground that Doctor Who is seeding on and despite the occasional misfire, there&#8217;s quite a lot to love.</p>
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		<title>By: David Hasselbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hasselbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ greenknight

You are right about the Bourne-aspect of the new Bond, but it really is the purest Bond movie ever. 

Anyway ... I recommend to watch the the &quot;new&quot; Doctor Who, because it&#039;s (almost) everything I ever wanted it to be.
Especially Eccleston gives a stunning performance of the timelord.
And don&#039;t worry, you don&#039;t need ANY previous knowledge if you start with the 2005 version.
Yes, parts of Doctor Who are cheesy, but the core is stunningly cool. 
I guarantee that.

Oh, and Year Zero may sound good to you, just because Proyas is attached, but I stopped being excited about PERSONS a long time ago.

I was let down WAY too often to depend on names to expect greatness.

It was tough and it was uncomfortable, but I learned my lesson. :-(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ greenknight</p>
<p>You are right about the Bourne-aspect of the new Bond, but it really is the purest Bond movie ever. </p>
<p>Anyway &#8230; I recommend to watch the the &#8220;new&#8221; Doctor Who, because it&#8217;s (almost) everything I ever wanted it to be.<br />
Especially Eccleston gives a stunning performance of the timelord.<br />
And don&#8217;t worry, you don&#8217;t need ANY previous knowledge if you start with the 2005 version.<br />
Yes, parts of Doctor Who are cheesy, but the core is stunningly cool.<br />
I guarantee that.</p>
<p>Oh, and Year Zero may sound good to you, just because Proyas is attached, but I stopped being excited about PERSONS a long time ago.</p>
<p>I was let down WAY too often to depend on names to expect greatness.</p>
<p>It was tough and it was uncomfortable, but I learned my lesson. <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':-(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Darren seeley</title>
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		<dc:creator>Darren seeley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Jan 2009 00:00:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I agree it&#039;s too soon for a remake of The Crow, there is one thing you all seem to ignore: &lt;em&gt; what if the remake is more from Dan O&#039; Barr&#039;s graphic novel&lt;/em&gt;?

But that&#039;s really beside the point, because The Crow was better off as a one shot character. It simply didn&#039;t work after the first film, because it was retread with a slightly different visual look and not much else. It is also one of those rare times where the actor playing a role &lt;em&gt;is the role&lt;/em&gt; and in the late Brandon Lee&#039;s case, that&#039;s a literal sense as well. Not one actor has topped him. Yes, it&#039;s always a &quot;new Crow&quot; but it really was the same old same old.

I liked the cliffhanger at the end of the tV show though...but I never got into the TV show all that much either.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I agree it&#8217;s too soon for a remake of The Crow, there is one thing you all seem to ignore: <em> what if the remake is more from Dan O&#8217; Barr&#8217;s graphic novel</em>?</p>
<p>But that&#8217;s really beside the point, because The Crow was better off as a one shot character. It simply didn&#8217;t work after the first film, because it was retread with a slightly different visual look and not much else. It is also one of those rare times where the actor playing a role <em>is the role</em> and in the late Brandon Lee&#8217;s case, that&#8217;s a literal sense as well. Not one actor has topped him. Yes, it&#8217;s always a &#8220;new Crow&#8221; but it really was the same old same old.</p>
<p>I liked the cliffhanger at the end of the tV show though&#8230;but I never got into the TV show all that much either.</p>
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		<title>By: greenknight333</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenknight333</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:38:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ David Hasselbach


I have never watched Dr Who..have a few friends who are bigger Sci-Fi geeks than me and they rave about it but it&#039;s one of those flavours I have never tried...what am I missing in terms of quality of stories and special effects?

Have enjoyed most of the recent reboots lately even Superman Returns .... wasn&#039;t too keen on Caino Royale..too Bourne-ish for me..

and yeah Year Zero sounds good to me because it has Proyas attached.. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ David Hasselbach</p>
<p>I have never watched Dr Who..have a few friends who are bigger Sci-Fi geeks than me and they rave about it but it&#8217;s one of those flavours I have never tried&#8230;what am I missing in terms of quality of stories and special effects?</p>
<p>Have enjoyed most of the recent reboots lately even Superman Returns &#8230;. wasn&#8217;t too keen on Caino Royale..too Bourne-ish for me..</p>
<p>and yeah Year Zero sounds good to me because it has Proyas attached.. <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: almanza</title>
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		<dc:creator>almanza</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 23:01:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>love love love dark city and the crow (a personal fav.) i&#039;m hoping dracula zero is good</description>
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		<title>By: David Hasselbach</title>
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		<dc:creator>David Hasselbach</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:48:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ greenknight

Great director indeed, but Year Zero sounding interesting? There have been MULTIPLE films (mostly direct-to-video ... oops ... DVD ... I&#039;m old ...) that dealt with Dracula being the warlord that Vlad Dracul (supposedly) actually was.

I say ... IF you want to do something with Dracula ... make it original. Something new. A League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen in the present ... with villians that are somehow bound to do good stuff.

Have Jason, Freddy and whatnot thrown into the mix. Always kinda a$$hole-y. a bit brutal, but still anti-heroes par excellence.

Ok, I KNOW it&#039;s not doable (the copyright negotiations would be a NIGHTMARE ... no pun intended), but one can dream, right?

As for THE CROW ... I have absolutely NO idea why someone actually thinks that a remake is a good idea.

The original aged VERY well and in its core, it&#039;s an age old story ... &quot;updating&quot; it will only make it horrible.
And making it close to the original will render it completely useless.

Btw.  ... for the record ... I LOVED almost every re-boot they&#039;ve done in recent times. Casino Royale, Batman Begins, Incredible Hulk ... they all took the watered down formula of the previous films and ... boiled it. 

But they REALLY have to choose wisely which movies to reboot.
The Crow surely isn&#039;t one of them.

One last thing:
greenknight ... since you&#039;re a sci-fi fan ... do you watch Doctor Who?
(In itself a small reboot since 2005 :-))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ greenknight</p>
<p>Great director indeed, but Year Zero sounding interesting? There have been MULTIPLE films (mostly direct-to-video &#8230; oops &#8230; DVD &#8230; I&#8217;m old &#8230;) that dealt with Dracula being the warlord that Vlad Dracul (supposedly) actually was.</p>
<p>I say &#8230; IF you want to do something with Dracula &#8230; make it original. Something new. A League Of Extraordinary Gentlemen in the present &#8230; with villians that are somehow bound to do good stuff.</p>
<p>Have Jason, Freddy and whatnot thrown into the mix. Always kinda a$$hole-y. a bit brutal, but still anti-heroes par excellence.</p>
<p>Ok, I KNOW it&#8217;s not doable (the copyright negotiations would be a NIGHTMARE &#8230; no pun intended), but one can dream, right?</p>
<p>As for THE CROW &#8230; I have absolutely NO idea why someone actually thinks that a remake is a good idea.</p>
<p>The original aged VERY well and in its core, it&#8217;s an age old story &#8230; &#8220;updating&#8221; it will only make it horrible.<br />
And making it close to the original will render it completely useless.</p>
<p>Btw.  &#8230; for the record &#8230; I LOVED almost every re-boot they&#8217;ve done in recent times. Casino Royale, Batman Begins, Incredible Hulk &#8230; they all took the watered down formula of the previous films and &#8230; boiled it. </p>
<p>But they REALLY have to choose wisely which movies to reboot.<br />
The Crow surely isn&#8217;t one of them.</p>
<p>One last thing:<br />
greenknight &#8230; since you&#8217;re a sci-fi fan &#8230; do you watch Doctor Who?<br />
(In itself a small reboot since 2005 <img src='http://cdn.screenrant.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> )</p>
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		<title>By: greenknight333</title>
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		<dc:creator>greenknight333</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 22:31:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great director I really enjoy his films and Year Zero sounds very interesting</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great director I really enjoy his films and Year Zero sounds very interesting</p>
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