‘Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.’ Continuity to Be Revealed Before ‘Captain America 2′

Published 9 months ago by

Marvel Movie SHIELD Logo Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Continuity to Be Revealed Before Captain America 2

Marvel Studios’ first television series, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is currently going through that awkward stage of growth; that is, where a TV show hasn’t worked out exactly what it wants to be. Regardless, between the rock-solid ratings and signs of improvement, things look to be getting better (off-screen, anyway) for Agent Coulson (Clark Gregg), as well as for his motley team of field agents, laboratory researchers and one troublesome hacker revolutionist-turned ally. (… Or is she?)

The Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. writers have continued to drop hints about the mystery behind how Coulson managed to survive getting “shanked by the Asgardian Mussolini,” though it remains to be seen how long we’ll have to wait for the actual answer to be unveiled. However, there is one question that looks to be answered sooner, rather than later, and that involves where the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series fits into the continuity of the larger Marvel Cinematic Universe.

Screen Rant‘s Kofi Outlaw was in London this past week for the Thor: The Dark World press junket, where Marvel Studios President of Production Kevin Feige was in attendance and offered some information concerning the upcoming Marvel films; not to mention, his current deal with the studio. Our almighty Editor-in-Chief also found a chance to ask Feige about if we’ll learn where the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series falls into the continuity of the MCU, prior to Captain America: The Winter Soldier being released in theaters next year.

Feige’s reply:

“I’m not involved with the TV show – but before [Captain America 2' hits theaters], I think.”

Shortly after Iron Man 3 was released in theaters earlier this year, Feige offered assurances that S.H.I.E.L.D.’s absence in the movie – a thorn in the side of many a hardcore fan – would be explained at some point. While the Captain America sequel will no doubt shed more light on that issue, chronologically that film takes place two years after The Avengers; meaning, there’s a big chunk of time that remains unaccounted for, as far as it concerns what S.H.I.E.L.D’s post-Manhattan invasion actives are (and why the organization has virtually no presence in either Iron Man 3 or Thor: The Dark World).

Agents of SHIELD Coulson Ward Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. Continuity to Be Revealed Before Captain America 2

That’s to say, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is in an excellent position to not just explain when Coulson puts together his makeshift family to help keep the world safe (with regard to other events in the MCU), but also reveal why, exactly, the agency seems to have a reduced presence in the Marvel Phase 2 movies – despite some major disasters going down, that is (see: the President being kidnapped, London being attacked by Dark Elves, and so forth).

We’ve already seen Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. tie into key elements from the Marvel films, be it with the re-apperance of Extremis technology (as featured in the pilot episode), the dangerous weaponry derived from the Tesseract that was uncovered in “0-8-4″, and/or the multiple references to a yet-to-be-revealed explanation for what happened after Coulson was stabbed by Loki in The Avengers. The implication that we got from Feige is that a reveal concerning the continuity of the S.H.I.E.L.D. TV series (and the implications for the greater MCU) will be coming relatively soon, which is reason enough for us to keep tuning in and see what happens next.

Drop us a line in the comments and let us know if you have any theories/thoughts on where Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. falls in the post-Avengers MCU continuity.

_____

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. returns this week with episode 5, “Girl in the Flower Dress”.

Thor: The Dark World is the next Marvel film release on November 8th, 2013, followed by Captain America: The Winter Soldier on April 4th, 2014.

TAGS: agents of shield, captain america 2

42 Comments

Post a Comment

  1. I’m assuming it takes place immediately before IM3 and continues during it while Thor 2 could also happen during IM3 too.

    Honestly though, my question isn’t “when is it set during the movie continuity?” but rather “when will it stop being dull?”.

    • +1. Dazz, every time you comment, I say a mental “Amen”, lol!

    • The pilot references the Extremis featured in IM3, and Coulson had a working knowledge of what it was and what could happen. This suggested post IM3 to me.

      But any reference on the show to SHIELD’s absence in the movies is just going to be a shoe horned retcon/reference. The show’s is basically standing on a wobbly foundation made up of comic and MCU references. If they get away from that and actually build characters we care about, the show will be stronger, and the references won’t be the only reason people are tuning in.

      • But extermis and aim had been around sense 1999/2000 so it would be reasonable to assume shield would know about it.

    • im thinking they will have a after credits part were bruce banner is on the phone talking to tony starks. It will end up being that thor 2 will be bb telling tony what he was doing while tony was going threw his problems. Im also thinking that cap 2 takes place during the same time as im3 and thor 2. You would have tony tied up in im3 while thor the hulk and may be hawk eye was in thor 2 and cap bw and nf are in the cap movie.

      im hoping the avengers 2 line up will look like this

      iron man
      hulk
      thor
      hawkeye
      black widow
      falcon
      ws

      to start with and they add
      quicksilver
      sw
      the vision
      by the end of it

    • Actually I’d say it happens either during or after the events of Iron Man 3 since Agent Coulson was aware of the Extremist Virus although the case could be made that SHIELD were aware of the virus but were not aware of it’s origins. Perhaps they believed the Rising Tide made the virus or were trying to find their distributor and still didn’t make the connection between Rising Tide and AIM,

      Although that leaves one other fact. Had SHIELD known about Extremist before the events of Iron Man 3, they’d know that all those random terrorist attacks bared the unmistakable mark of the extremist virus. Even if they didn’t tell the public they would have told Tony Stark.

  2. Iron Man 3 happens 6 months after The Battle of New York, Thor: The Dark World probably happens a year after The Battle of New York, and as stated, Captain America: The Winter Solider happens two years after The Battle of New York.

    What about Guardians of the Galaxy? Well, that is said to be in a different time frame, but consistent in the the frame of the MCU in ANOTHER Galaxy…. far, far away.. (farther than Asgard.)

    • Galaxy far far away? do you work for diseny? are you trying to tell us youre planning crossovers already? :)

      • disney*

        • Since Marvel said that the movies take place in real time, Tony is retelling the his Christmas story (Iron Man 3) to Bruce Banner a year after The Battle of New York. ‘Thor: The Dark World’ follows after that and then ‘Captain America: The Winter Soldier’. Agents of SHIELD could be post-Iron Man 3 up until pre-Cap: Winter Soldier

  3. Okay, my theory is that Iron Man 3 takes place the winter following the battle of New York, Agents of SHIELD takes place after than, maybe overlapping with Thor: The Dark World? and lastly Cap: Winter Soldier happens, leading into the next Avengers film.

  4. The reason the show has solid ratings is because millions of people love it and tune in to watch it every week. Stop saying the show sucks as if it’s the consensus. It’s your personal opinion which is not shared by fans of the show. My wife and I love all the movies and watch the show every week. There hasn’t been a bad episode yet.

    • of course the opinion is not shared by fans of the show. they’re “fans”
      but to those who watch it and aren’t fans of it, then that opinion is shared by the large majority. and saying there hasn’t been a bad episode yet? shouldn’t it be the opposite? there hasn’t really been a good episode yet

      • what are you basing all your assumptions on?? if its doing as bad as you say and i quote”but to those who watch it and aren’t fans of it, then that opinion is shared by the large majority” if such a large majority of the audience hate it why did it get picked up for a full season?

    • Really? Because I’m not so sure, don’t get me wrong I like AOS but it looks like it’s yet to find it’s feet and relies too much on situation comedy. I think they should keep the premise since it’s great to have a spy show that doesn’t relay too heavily on ultra-violence but I’d like to see the agents handling more situations like in Eye-Spy.

      Not just a down played version of what we’ve seen in the movies but the kind of threats SHIELD deal with. Also it’d be good to see them get their own nemesis or even just a threat they have to deal with besides Rising Tide. Someone we can put a face to, a character that can be an open threat to the team.

    • Yes indeed. The Nothing’s ever good enough or BIG enough for us Crowd is working overtime to Destroy this show. You would think they would be grateful for anything they can get that is halfway decent.
      Give it a Chance ? Hell no -We’re superior & Smug.

  5. I think AOS takes place a few months after Iron Man 3 because Extremis

    • ^^^^ This.

      I think it takes place in line with the films: Avenger > IM3 > Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. > Thor 2 > CA2.

      I’m calling it now, there will a Captain America and/or Black Widow cameo near the end of the season. Captain America 2 comes out toward the end of the season. There’s no way they don’t use the show and the film to hype one another.

      • Having Cap or BW on the show would be great fan service, and also great cross promotional advertising. Speaking of, my favorite thing about this show so far is them not spoiling that episode 2 cameo. So many shows would have just shown him in the promo a week ahead of time. Bravo for that. Now make everything else better!

        • I did not really get that cameo. Fury demolishes a helicarrier, has an agent killed, not to mention all the other agents killed on the helicarrier while the Hulk is rampaging and Hawkeye is blowing it up and then has the audacity to show up and scream about a plane. You would think the plane would be a drop in the bucket and damaged equipment would be factored into the budget if your going to develop a special team to search down people like that destroyed the Helicarrier.

          But then again, I could be wrong. LOL

          • True but the differance there is that Nick Fury had to do what he did. Loki was a major threat (Major Threat!) against the world so Fury had to rush in order to make sure he could take Loki down, the circumstances in which the two aircrafts were taken down is also differant.

            Nick Fury needed Loki on the Helicarrier were as Agent Coulson acted irrational and allowed an enemy on-board. Also Bruce Banner has a far greater excuse then Fitz and Simmons as to why he started trashing the helicarrier. Basically, Nick Fury expected the plane to be trashed from time to time but not on the first day and not by it’s own crew. It could also be that Nick Fury finds acting the way he does is good at pushing the people who work for him into working to the best of their ability,

            it sounds harsh but SHIELD is an international agency and the only one built to handle threats like Loki so it makes sense that Fury would be angry that one of the agents who has worked closer to him then any other agent in SHIELD can’t keep a plane working for more then a day. It makes Fury look bad by proxy.

      • But extermis and aim had been around sense 1999/2000 so it would be reasonable to assume shield would know about it in 2013. Looking at the news paper in IM3 you see that that takes place in December 2013 and then the documents regarding when the agents get their level 7 in AOS you see that that is in September of 2013 so AOS happens before Iron man 3. And with continuity of thor2 and AOS, thor 2 happens before IM3

        • That actually makes Killian’s plan even dumber considering that the guys in AOS were able to make super-soldiers on something similar to extemeist without having them explode (I’ve given up trying to put the correct spelling at this point)

  6. Can someone tell me if and how the Guardians of the Galaxy will be able to meet with The Avengers when they’re in a different time frame?

    • Retcon contest!

  7. SHIELD should take place about a year after the battle of NY. Coulson the possible L.M.D. has stated in the show he had been recouping for about 9 months (most likely memory implant) but I’m sure it has been that long in the show.

    • Actually I think the LMD Theory is off, there’s just way too many hints to this idea and they are starting to sound like red herrings so the show can hide what’s really going on and think about it why would those guys bother kidnapping Coulson if he was an LMD. If their smart enough to kidnap the guy then clearly they’d check on site that he wasn’t just a Light Model Decoy.

      Tony Stark knows about these things (in this universe), do you really think this secret organisation wouldn’t know about them either? You don’t kidnap a high ranking Agent of a secret US government agency without knowing the tricks of their trade.

  8. I think the pilot takes place during or maybe slightly after Iron Man 3.

  9. This show needs some serious help.

    1) The characters are way too cookie cutter. Kill half the team (random pick, it really doesn’t matter) and replace immediately.

    2) SHIELD historically has some awesome people working for it. Is like the “at-risk youth” division of SHIELD? It has taken an awesome international spy agency and made it look like a

    3) Tahiti. It’s a carrot folks. They are going to dangle that in front of us for as long as they can. They realize that our focus on the carrot is one of the main reasons we are sticking around, and that once we get a bite of it, a lot of people aren’t going to like how it tastes and leave immediately.

    4) References. Build this show, and the characters first. They are basically standing on the shoulders of the Avengers. They need to develop their own legs and find a seperate voice for this show, then throw out references all day long, but until then, I’m usually more interested in doing laundry by the time the references hit.

    • They need to either make the main characters more compelling or make the missions really have some more punch behind them. A clearer picture of a main antagonist would help focus things more too.

    • good comment, i mostly agree. IMO

      1) Keep the team, but put them through some really tough episodes and make them real characters. The show already exhibits an air of nonchalance and popping half the cast might rock the show’s integrity too much. Physically and emotionally breaking the characters might make us care about them too.

      2) Run concurrent stories with different teams.

    • A I the only one who thinks Tahiti, “that magical place”, is actualy Valhala?

  10. Good! Enjoying this entertaining series!

  11. I think this will be a good idea

  12. I’m not sure why everyone is so down on Agents of Shield. I think we need to allow the show a little bit of time to find its footing and let it stand on its own. Everyone is comparing the show to the movies and that is just not a realistic point of view. On our Agents of Shield Fan Podcast, listeners have provided a TON of ideas about Coulson and such but not one person has brought up the timeline of this series. I think that’s because there are many of us that are happy to have a cool Marvel product on network television each week. It’s like the comic book pages from our childhood have come to life.

    • I guess people haven’t watch tv before or got nothing better to do. I always say thank GOD the internet wasn’t @ or big w/ST:NG;ST:DS9;Buffy/Angel got started.

  13. It would seem that the International community would charter a secret organization like S.H.I.E.L.D to neutralize a specific group of threats i.e. multinational stateless armies, corrupt violent multinational corporations, multinational secret societies aimed at world domination, an occult organizations targeting governments for control, sectarian groups attempting to start an apocalyptic religious or race based world wars, monsters or superhuman forces that need to be
    captured or destroyed. The show needs to focus on a rapid response team that effectively manages international incidents caused by the entities listed above, despite all the politics involved with being a multinational organization. If the show delves more into politics and the corruption inside of S.H.I.E.L.D then there will be continuity between the show, Captain America 2, and AOU.

  14. Just saw the 5th episode and kind of disappointed in the whole sex scene. It takes away from the family aspect of the show and they should really avoid that in the coming episodes. Just cause all of Hollywood is having to do with sex doesn’t mean Marvel has to in order to get a bigger viewing base. -.-

  15. …..Duh

  16. I had a question about the most recent episode of Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D “Seeds” when Sky in the academy says “Bucky Barnes” why did they put that there in the Wall of Valor!?

    • Its in the CA2 TWS: Bucky was the only one in CA group who gave his life in the service of his country or something. So SHIELD had to honor him with the Wall of Valor

  17. ["Marvel Studios’ first television series, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D. is currently going through that awkward stage of growth; that is, where a TV show hasn’t worked out exactly what it wants to be. Regardless, between the rock-solid ratings and signs of improvement, things look to be getting better (off-screen, anyway) for Agent Coulson (Clark Gregg), as well as for his motley team of field agents, laboratory researchers and one troublesome hacker revolutionist-turned ally. (… Or is she?)"]

    It’s a damn serial drama, for pete’s sake! That is how storytelling works, when you’re revealing a long tale. It’s starts out small and gradually develops. “AGENTS OF SHIELD” is NOT “NCIS”, where secret or narratives are resolved at the end of an episode or two. Surely you figured this out by now??

Post a Comment

GravatarWant to change your avatar?
Go to Gravatar.com and upload your own (we'll wait)!

 Rules: No profanity or personal attacks.
 Use a valid email address or risk being banned from commenting.


If your comment doesn't show up immediately, it may have been flagged for moderation. Please try refreshing the page first, then drop us a note and we'll retrieve it.

Be Social, Follow Us!!