While I agree with you, Rob’s right – this thread has gotten way off track. Let’s not keep going down this path here.

Vic

And the other thing that Amendment is supposed to guarantee is that the Government remains scared of its people, not the other way around. Sure the government technically has tanks, planes, and bigger guns (of course the last wouldn’t be so if we were allowed to have anything…), but what people who use this argument forgets is that our armed forces are made up of PEOPLE. They are not remote controlled tanks and planes (yet) that the central government can use against us. I’m sure if the government started to turn on its people, a very good percentage of the military commanders would realize that their sworn duty is to defend the Constitution, not the big wigs in Washington, and would be on our side.

So I do believe that the people having a means to defend themselves would still be useful today as it was in the American Revolution.

Like Kel said, the bad guys will ALWAYS have weapons, and this is true and the proof is in today’s criminals. We ALREADY have laws that prohibit these people from owning firearms. Felons have been prohibited from possessing a firearm for a long time now. Yet they still have them. So what does this tell you about the effectiveness of laws on criminals? They call them criminals for a reason you know. Drugs, murder, rape, robbery, are all illegal, does that stop them? The only people that don’t do these things are law-abiding citizens like you and I. The same applies to gun laws. I’m shocked so many people and politicians believe that gun laws are somehow magically more effective than all of the other laws in performing the way they should. Laws are more there to give cops a reason to arrest people than to actually prevent things from happening. If someone wants to do something desperately enough, they’ll do it despite what the law says. The ONLY purpose the law has is providing something to charge these individuals with AFTER they’ve already committed the act. So do you think it’ll somehow help you if you were killed by someone who is charged with murder and weapons possession instead of the person killing you only getting charged with murder?? Either way you’re still dead…

I really just wanted to say the rock and knife argument doesn’t work, LOL. Just remember one thing when people try to defend to the right to bare arms…that law was written when they used muskets. It is a truly outdated law. Why did they get rid of the powdered wigs but not the guns???

Oh btw…did I mention that the oscars are out of touch and a bunch elietest snobs? Well I guess I just did, lol.

Thank goodness some people in this world still have some sense.

….the bad guys will always have weapons. Just sayin’.

LOL!

Penn did say one thing I REALLY agreed with tho, in fact, I’ve been saying it for years: that the academy is a bunch of “commie, homo lovers”.

Seriously, Rourke should have won.

Hugh Jackman did well. I still can’t get used to the idea of him singing. Wolverine…in a tux….singing. LOL!

For the love of God bring back the tough guy!! Loved Pitt in the Fight Club!!